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jungleheart
#1 Posted : 4/2/2013 3:52:48 PM

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I'm in a book club so looking for some book recommendations from Nexians. My favorite topics are the environment, health, politics, geography, economics, philosophy, etc. Please make the suggestions non-fiction. I really look forward to seeing what you are reading.

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#3 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:23:53 PM

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benzyme
#4 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:27:09 PM

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all that, and you forgot 'Future Shock', and 'The Third Wave'?

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#5 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:30:36 PM

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lol benzyme, Toffler is a technophiliac gay-lover of Newt Gingrich, you can keep your future shock and third wave.

 
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#6 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:33:27 PM

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considering those books were written over 30 and 40 years ago, it's obvious you've never read/heard of them. I'll take your troll response as a sign of ignorance. Big grin
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#7 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:40:38 PM

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.......

actually most of them were written in the last 20...

and considering your Alvin Toffler suggestion, it's obvious that you're stuck in the whole '90s-techno-savior-republican-retard-wired phase still waiting on the "Third Wave."
 
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#8 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:43:15 PM

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The Third Wave was written in the early 80's, Future Shock was written in 1970.
Unless you've been asleep, you'd realize much of what's been referenced in those books has already happened, and is still happening. Toffler saw what was coming, as did R.A.W.
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jungleheart wrote:
I'm in a book club so looking for some book recommendations from Nexians. My favorite topics are the environment, health, politics, geography, economics, philosophy, etc. Please make the suggestions non-fiction. I really look forward to seeing what you are reading.

Best regards,
J


Cosmic Trigger - Robert Anton Wilson

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#10 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:47:25 PM

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benzyme wrote:
The Third Wave was written in the early 80's, Future Shock was written in 1970.
Unless you've been asleep, you'd realize much of what's been referenced in those books has already happened, and is still happening. Toffler saw what was coming, as did R.A.W.


I know that, but they were heavily touted and fueled the net boom of the '90s, specially by your boy Newt Gingrich. They were very influential in the legislation commercializing the internet in the '90s as well...I could care less about internet economic utopianism, sorry. The bubbles have already boomed and burst, and were are we now? Third wave? I think not...
In fact, Toffler's third wave is probably partly to blaim for the .com boom, so he can suck it for all I care... If you want to go even deeper, Toffler's third wave is probably partly responsible for the shift to the digital economy in 1992 which we are still feeling the negative effects of to this day...
 
benzyme
#11 Posted : 4/2/2013 4:53:11 PM

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Newt is not my boy, Gary Johnson is
Both Toffler and RAW mentioned virtual currency in the 1970's. Virtual currency was first introduced in 1983, and is now in the public eye in the form of BTC.

btw..the Third wave is just another way of saying information age. the second wave was the industrial age.

I second universecannon's suggestion .. Cosmic Trigger by RAW. May as well look into the Illuminatus trilogy as well.
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fairbanks
#12 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:00:54 PM

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benzyme wrote:
Newt is not my boy, Gary Johnson is (nice try, young buck).
Both Toffler and RAW mentioned virtual currency in the 1970's. Virtual currency was first introduced in 1983, and is now in the public eye in the form of BTC.

btw..the Third wave is just another way of saying information age. the second wave was the industrial age.


heh, figured you were a libertarian the second you mentioned Toffler. Hey, tell your people thanks for screwing over the internet in the '90s with commercialization legislation. The information age, post-industrial, third wave, was all wired mag rhetoric fuel for speculation in the market that created the .com bubble. As far as I'm concerned Toffler is on the same level as Ayn Rand, at least that's what most of silicon valley would think.

 
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#13 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:06:43 PM

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if you figured I was a libertarian, why would you mention Newt being "your boy"?
Very happy

The silicon valley is a hyperinflated house of cards, built by people who severely limit the state gov't, effectively shooting themselves in the foot. No wonder many of those businesses are relocating to north Travis County
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fairbanks
#14 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:12:41 PM

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Alvin Toffler was actually the co-author of the "Internet Magna Carta" back in the '90s that Newt Gingrich used to completely rewrite American telecomunication policy (Telecommunications Act of 1996) deregulating the entire industry, essentially creating an internet tax haven commercial paradise.

Thank Alvin Toffler for the monolithic internet corporations today, Benzyme. Thank Alvin Toffler for fing the internet in the a.

Quote:
The silicon valley is a hyperinflated house of cards


powered by "Third Wave" information age, post-industrial, rhetoric of Alvin Toffler and his wired magazine minion Kevin Kelly.
 
benzyme
#15 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:17:46 PM

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notice how I didn't cite that book in my suggestions, it's not as seminal as the ones I did cite. Toffler didn't invent the internet or its regulation, he merely forecasted trends in information relay.

Internet corporations don't really concern me personally, I work in the biotech sector, not one of the countless .com fads.
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fairbanks
#16 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:18:49 PM

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awesome you're a biotech libertarian. I'm guessing transhumanist as well? If so, I quit this forum.
 
benzyme
#17 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:20:17 PM

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nope, I'm actually for, and the term libertarian implies, less gov't influence, and business law reform.
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#18 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:23:12 PM

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but are you a transhumanist? and btw, Alan Greenspan (one of the keys to blame for our shit economy) was a libertarian, thought all that "less govt influence and business law reform" was gonna work out for him too with the "Digital Economy" in '92. how well has that worked out? we're still shoveling the shit that he threw on top of us.
 
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#19 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:34:08 PM

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sounds like someone's still hurt about the .com bust... get over it. it happened 13 years ago..

because a corporate republic works so well. our current system considers everyone a potential terrorist, file-sharing is frowned upon by bureaucrats, and our skies are about to be littered with drones. Forget innocent until proven guilty, companies automatically think you're guilty of drug use, until you prove your innocence. land of the free? you're free to consume whatever the available commercial choices are, that's about it.
the aforementioned drones? to provide an aerial view of the masses when a potential economic collapse occurs (duh).
empires rise and fall, and this one won't go out without a fight, even if its against its own citizens.

transhumanist? the only -ist I am is a biochemist, I guess a scientist by default.
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#20 Posted : 4/2/2013 5:48:55 PM

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haha, nah man. I was 8 years old when the .com bubble occurred, I have no involvement. Just making my point that Toffler's pop-future rhetoric served as major fuel for not only that bubble but the deleterious digital economy in general. It's crazy to think that a guy like Toffler who thought parents would have the option to "buy" children at the "embryo emporium" or to "farm" them out to professional parents was so influential over the stacked Republican house of the mid '90s. I guess it just reinforces that republican retard stigma.

I completely agree with your list of America's ills though, your Texas abode shows.
 
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