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#1 Posted : 3/24/2013 6:37:41 PM

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Has anyone else tried this? I've been experimenting with some ACRB goo (DMT+NMT) smeared onto a mixture of 5x Salvia, Caapi, and Cannabis. I feel like the mixture has been fruitful. In reasonable amounts I have felt an empathic spread with medium strength visual hallucinations, very conducive to group experience.

Very soon I'm going to try this sort of blend with 10x Salvia instead of 5x. I have a strong feeling that, in the right amounts, these things have an interesting synergy.

Does anyone else have any experience with this?
 

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#2 Posted : 3/24/2013 7:20:07 PM

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I've been putting Salvia into my changa mixes since I first started making changa mixes, and I find it to be very synergistic with DMT. I use plain leaf or a 3x most often, however. The Salvia can overpower everything if you use too much. I made a test batch with a 10x once and it was much too strong and I had to add other herbs to it and a little more DMT to get the right balance. The 10x was way too strong for a mix like that, at least with my tolerance (which is zero to none.)

I have a bunch of acrb goo that I recently extracted, but I used the majority of it for a changa mixture of blue lotus, calea, and damiana. Thought I would try it out without the Salvia first as I hadn't tried this goo before and wasn't sure what differences in effects it would produce compared to straight fluffy white DMT.

Now that I have tried it, I think it might lend itself very well to a Salvia changa. The goo (which allegedly contains large amounts of NMT) has much more of a body high, very physical feeling, not unlike Salvia at times.

Anyhow, as I'm sure many people already know, there's a fine line with Salvia. Even more so when in a changa mixture, IME. It can take a bit to tweak it to get it at that sweet spot. It's fairly easy to add too much, and then have to rework the mix with more herbs + DMT. Less is definitely more Pleased
 
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#3 Posted : 3/24/2013 7:45:52 PM
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Say someone is not particularly interested in making a Changa mix, but rather is simply interested in the synergy between Salvia and the Spice, what is the rule of thumb considering the ratios? Should the DMT be desolved and then suspended on the leaf or is a simple dusting sufficient?
 
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#4 Posted : 3/25/2013 6:18:54 AM

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The 5x seemed to work real nice with the spice I had before. The 10x won't be 1:1. I will be cautious with it per your suggestion. Thanks!!

Going to wait til I have new changa to play with, then I will post how it was. I have enjoyed discovering different herb blends to color the experience, but I'm not too thrilled with the current batch: was using xylene and salting out with vinegar. The resulting goo is active, but seems to taste like vinegar no matter how long I let it evaporate.
 
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#5 Posted : 3/25/2013 6:25:25 AM

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Angel from Arrakis wrote:
Say someone is not particularly interested in making a Changa mix, but rather is simply interested in the synergy between Salvia and the Spice, what is the rule of thumb considering the ratios? Should the DMT be desolved and then suspended on the leaf or is a simple dusting sufficient?


I don't know if there's a rule of thumb per se. But I'm interested to see what happens if it's your standard 30-50mg breakthrough dose, heated on a bed of 5x extract.

What I used before was about 1:3 salvia 5x to caapi/cannabis changa. That was real nice, and definitely present in the experience, but I felt it could have used a bit more.
 
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#6 Posted : 4/5/2013 2:32:19 AM

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featheredged wrote:
Has anyone else tried this? I've been experimenting with some ACRB goo (DMT+NMT) smeared onto a mixture of 5x Salvia, Caapi, and Cannabis. I feel like the mixture has been fruitful. In reasonable amounts I have felt an empathic spread with medium strength visual hallucinations, very conducive to group experience.

Very soon I'm going to try this sort of blend with 10x Salvia instead of 5x. I have a strong feeling that, in the right amounts, these things have an interesting synergy.

Does anyone else have any experience with this?



If your talking about [caapi leaf]..ive mixed a tiny bit of ACRB amber goo in a caapi sandwish and the smoke was ver smooth through a water bong!
And that tiny bit of ACRB goo [about the size of a grain of rice] gave a very strong body high ..made me feel like i was walking on the moon..had to sit down!Rolling eyes
 
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#7 Posted : 4/5/2013 2:42:17 AM

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Salvia with DMT sounds terrifying.
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