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#261 Posted : 3/18/2013 9:34:09 AM

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Goo is quite common with ACRB freezes...
Don't get hung up on Xtals...Goo is equally active...

Xtals are just Goo with fancy designer clothes on...Wink
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#262 Posted : 3/18/2013 10:44:29 AM

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Goo could probably be dissolved in saline solution for eye-dropper insufflation.
 
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#263 Posted : 3/18/2013 5:58:22 PM
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Dmt via eye dropper whaaa?
 
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#264 Posted : 3/19/2013 2:01:34 PM

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This is my first time working with ACRB, followed this tek for the most part, here is a picture of the results I my first two pulls, I update weight once it's scraped... This is beautiful though!
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#265 Posted : 3/19/2013 2:13:48 PM

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Pistolsdrummer wrote:
This is my first time working with ACRB, followed this tek for the most part, here is a picture of the results I my first two pulls, I update weight once it's scraped... This is beautiful though!


Congratulations! Smile

But now I'm even more disappointed! I had naphtha that looked just like your first picture, but I ended up with translucent sludge when that was evaporated--not the beautiful xtals you have.

What was your process for freezing/evaporating/etc.?

Nonethless, I'm sticking with using my remaining ACRB for Chinahuasca.

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#266 Posted : 3/19/2013 2:54:48 PM

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Well for starters, my first to pulls were done quite quickly, with hot naptha and hot soup. I mixed and separated 4-6 times each pull with maybe 5 minutes separation between each mix. The last mix I let maybe 10 minutes separating before pulling. Once I had the first two pulls done, I immediately put the dish in the freezer uncovered for 10 minutes to cool the naptha. Then I removed the dish, place it on the counter and blew over the naptha for a minute or so until it turned completely cloudy. Then I covered with plastic wrap and put in the freezer at about 3:00-3:30 pm and removed about 8:30 this morning. I drained the naptha through a coffee filter as fast as possible and propped it up as in the picture with a fan to finish draining/evaping. My process was pretty close to the original tek, though I used ascorbic acid to a ph of roughly 2.5 for 4 boils of 30-45 minutes each. On the last boil I put all the boils alon with the remaining bark into a gallon pickle jar and basic irs to a ph of roughly 12.5. This was left to sit for roughly three days, shaking whenever I remembered to. Then I put the pickle jar in a stockpot on the stove for a hot water bath, while slowly heating the naptha in another slightly less hot water bath. Then continued as previously stated.

Sorry to put the two processes in backwards order, I hadn't originally planned to write the whole thing out...

Oh yea, one more thing... I also use about 50 grams of sea salt along with the ascorbic acid in each boil.
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#267 Posted : 3/19/2013 7:33:02 PM

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So Far I'm up to roughly 2.9g on three pulls, not counting some that is freeze preciptating out of the decanted naptha from this morning. About to do another pull now, once the soup is reheated.
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#268 Posted : 3/19/2013 8:26:06 PM

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well that was fun.... my mason jar cracked while rolling the naptha, leaving my kitchen completely covered in a purple/black mess, I managed to save most of the soup, and not sure how much solvent I lost, so don't know how much Alkaloid just hit the floor, but I'll be back at it again tomorrow or thursday... and back to plastic jugs now too.....
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#269 Posted : 3/19/2013 8:49:30 PM

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cyb wrote:

Goo is quite common with ACRB freezes...
Don't get hung up on Xtals...Goo is equally active...

Xtals are just Goo with fancy designer clothes on...Wink


Cyb is the goo resulting from the freeze Precipitation of Acrb because of the nmt content?

 
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#270 Posted : 3/20/2013 10:22:57 PM

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Success!

I pretty much followed this tek and added the salt as per cyb's tek for each gar soak. I used 500 grams of chipped acacia bark from hawaii. it was root. I added 2 liters of water and 150 ml of vinegar , and just poured some rock salt in (no measure) and boiled in separate pot. I did this 3 times (1 1/2 hour each boil) and reduced in a third pot to a total of 1500 ml.

Then added the lye in a small amount of water and added it to the hot acacia water. it was hot too. I had just enough room for less than the teks naphtha. I turned it carefully since it was so hot about 6 times. I poured off about 70% of the naphtha and then placed it in the freezer. I got 1.522 grams out of the crashed crystals, then i poured the remaining naphtha into a pyrex dish and got froze that. got another 273 mg of fluffy white crystal. i have the remaining naphtha in the freezer in a mason jar seeing if will drop more. *more is dropping! so i'll give it 24 hours to crash before evapping the remainder in a pyrex tray.

So for my first pull not even getting all the naphtha out i got a total of 1.795 grams of crystal(very little goo, except the bottom of the pyrex measuring vessel is super sticky. Also this stuff smells just like man milk.. pretty weird. can't wait to try it.

I'm super stoked on the results and this is the largest pull i've ever had on the first. this tek is great, especially adding the salt as per cyb. Can't wait to see how much more i can get, also ive never had my naphtha not smell like naphtha but man milk. it was so loaded with alks!!!

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Ok i'm hoping i can get some help. i'm backed into corner i've never been in. I got a total 11.082 grams of product from 500 grams of bark. about 5 grams of various goo ball, the rest is a mix of whitish crystal and hard cheese like crystal combo. I wanted to clean it up so i followed the "If you want xtals you could try dissolving the goo in a non polar, mixing dilute white vinegar agitating the mixture, the non polar should go very cloady if there are goodies in there and the goodies should travel into the polar dilute vinegar solution. Pull with 3 lots of vinegar solution basify the solution to PH 12.5 and pull with hexane. evap the hexane till slightly cloudy and freeze to precipitate the xtals"

It totally didn't work. i just got a tiny amount of goo and crystal out of the hexane freeze precip and then a non hardening amber liquid from the remaining evap. I was pretty bummed to lose all my work. But now i checked on the container that had the remaining goo ball, basified liquid that i had added nahptha too and there appears to be all my work hardened into a crystal crust. crystals are visible and it is firm like a plate.

I'd love any advice about how to get it out and clean it up as i've never had this problem

*edit ok that super chunk weighs 8.25 grams so i'm happy i found my dmt. now i just need to learn to clean it from any remaining basic... any tips would be appreciated as it's my first time doing that
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#271 Posted : 3/21/2013 3:06:25 AM
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hey so pulled about 300ml and reduced till murky and attempted a freeze precipitation but after 12 hours the crystals have barley formed and are still suspended mostly in the naphtha. any advice?Shocked
 
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#272 Posted : 3/21/2013 5:15:16 AM

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ok, now after fully drying it has come down in the 6 gram weights... so that goo(other alkaloids) must still be in the basic solution? any way i'm trying to figure out if this is basic crystals or dmt. it smells like dmt, not like goo, but i'm really scared of burning myself since it was accumulated between naphtha and basic.
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#273 Posted : 3/21/2013 8:55:26 AM

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Anybody? This thread was started to get results from people following the tek. I posted my results and some people were quite supportive on the hi yields. But anytime I had trouble and asked for help nobody responds. I'm confused as why no help when it gets tough. I'm totally willing to do all the work. Just asking for some experience and guidance down the lesser travelled acacia path
 
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#274 Posted : 3/21/2013 9:16:17 AM

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I can't speak for everyone else...but I have no clue what you have there...Confused
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#275 Posted : 3/21/2013 12:39:05 PM

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If i were you, i would go ahead and heat up 250 ml of heptane or hexane, disolve that monster into it, then poor of what does not sink to the bottom, leaving behind anything with color. then maybe add another 75 ml of hot solvent to whats left behind to pick up any other deems you missed the first time. then freeze precipitate that
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#276 Posted : 3/21/2013 4:14:59 PM

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thanks for the reply cyb even though it stumps you, thanks Pistol i put the monster into a beaker and heated w some naphtha. did this twice. first turned milky white, second was less so. Both pulls are in the freezer. Also i was super curious and tasted my finger and it didn't burn like base, just tasted like dmt. So even the ugly brown stuff might be good.
 
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#277 Posted : 3/21/2013 6:43:45 PM

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I've had stuff come with brown chunks before, just never nearly to that extent. I would invest in some Hexane though, ive had much better results reXing with it
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#278 Posted : 3/21/2013 6:54:23 PM

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thanks, i do have bestine... i just didn't get that much from it before using it. I'll do a pull with hexane and see what i get. i have a bunch of white powder crashing out in the naphtha now in both pulls.
 
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#279 Posted : 3/21/2013 11:30:54 PM

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mailorderdiety wrote:
But anytime I had trouble and asked for help nobody responds. I'm confused as why no help when it gets tough.


On that note, I want to express my gratitude for all those that chimed in with encouragement and support for my own efforts. I pitched everything nonetheless, but I appreciate the help. Very happy

This thread blossomed into a "help the newbz!" focal point, and I'm grateful for the expertise offered. Thumbs up
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#280 Posted : 3/21/2013 11:52:22 PM

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ok, now after fully drying it has come down in the 6 gram weights... so that goo(other alkaloids) must still be in the basic solution? any way i'm trying to figure out if this is basic crystals or dmt. it smells like dmt, not like goo, but i'm really scared of burning myself since it was accumulated between naphtha and basic.



you could try dissolving in acetone or ethanol and then dilute with water, rebase and then pull again?
 
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