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DeDao
#1 Posted : 3/10/2013 4:43:15 PM

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How do you all feel about a first timer drinking in solitude in the woods/a field?

How does one find a place that is appropriate?

I wouldn't want people coming and finding me during an experience.

Any thoughts.
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#2 Posted : 3/10/2013 4:45:57 PM



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i would strongly advise to drink it at home in the safety of your bed for the first time. Aya tends to make some people spew out of both ends, and it tends to be far more incapacitating than something like lsd or mushrooms

after you get your sea-legs, then maybe try a safe and comfortable nature setting. If there is a big risk of people coming up to you in nature then just pick a more secluded place



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#3 Posted : 3/10/2013 5:13:39 PM

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I would try it at home first DeDao. For some people ayahuasca is really purgative reguardless of dose and can make you pretty dizzy if you try to move around..and for some others they dont get dizzy at all until they take a larger dose. It is nice to drink outside in the sun but I would try it at home first to see how it effects you.
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#4 Posted : 3/10/2013 5:56:36 PM

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Excellent advice from UC and Jamie.Home is the best place by far for a solo drinker to experience their first brew for the reasons outlined.Also brews can be a bit hit and miss-if you 'hit' the spot more than you anticipated then the comfort of home would seem very appealing.

Know your responses to profoundly mind-altering substances before taking them in less regulated surroundings where more variables are potentially out of your hands.
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#5 Posted : 3/10/2013 9:11:35 PM

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I agree with all of the above hints. I never drank Aya, but I have some experience with Pharma. With higher doses, I become totally immobilized (lying down, not moving), yet not completely disconnected from the surrounding world. I can often hear noises from the outside "conventional" world that partake in "shaping" my visions, actually becoming part of them. I can imagine that a situation in which I would have to interact with strangers could cause some serious uneasiness for me, a total freak out, or something of that sort. I´ve read that people occasionally do Aya/Pharma in public places like beach, but for me, (both oral and smoked) DMT has allways been a matter of voluntary solitude at home, lying down in silent darkness.
 
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#6 Posted : 3/10/2013 10:45:58 PM

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i say go for it.

but then i have had good results with a few things the nexus recommends against (especially THC+DMT)

my first aya experience was out in the woods in this little thatched teepee that me and my bf made.

it was wonderful... i had a little firepit, and a ziploc of already cut-up fruits, some juice, and a blanket.

i brought my mp3 player, but i didn't use it.

i had no problems, but then i had issues getting a high enough dose before puking it right back out, so it wasn't a very intense experience (however since then i have had many intense experiences in the same spot with no problems)

the woods are my favorite place for aya and mushrooms. if you feel it wise to try it at home first, that's ok too.
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DeDao
#7 Posted : 3/10/2013 11:23:01 PM

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Well majority wins. Home first. ^^

Thank you all.
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"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
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#8 Posted : 4/4/2013 11:59:45 PM

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I ended up drinking out side one time.. I took 25g caapi then waited an hour and took another 25g along with 1.5g hawaiian chacruna. I had next to none visual distortions, only brightness. Main thing was feeling connected with my surroundings.. I sat in the woods for nearly 5 hour as happy as could be, doing things such as :

-Reading
-Listening to music
-Meditating
-Basking in the sun

It was a fantastic time. I feel like the dosage was key with this environment and a full on experience would have been too much and would be negative due to lack of comfort and resources such as bathroom for purging or food and drinks.

Just thought I was post back considering I had tried it now.
"Think more than you speak"
"How do you get rid of the pain of having pain in the first place? You get rid of expectations"
"You are everything that is. Open yourself to the love and understanding that is available."
"To see God, you have to have met the Devil."
"When you know how to listen, everyone becomes a guru."
" One time, I didn't do anything, and it was so empty... Almost as if I wasn't doing anything. Then I wrote about it. It was fulfilling."
 
 
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