I find LSD to be incredibly visual as well, in a manner very much like DMT, though not the same.

Traveling down an intense tunnel of psychedelic colors/patterns and images etc
patterns of patterns of patterns in patterns in patterns...
shifting, morphing, scintillating, dancing and brightly colored
mind blowing, sometimes even overwhelming
it is like being somewhere else, right where you are

I didn't get visuals on LSD for the first 6 times I took it, just tracers and shimmery things, walls breathing etc, then I took it this one time and lo and behold there were patterned geometric designs everywhere, and they were what I heard or felt or tasted, I could eat candy and see the flavor, listen to music and see it, be touched and see the sensation... nearly every time I have taken it since then (summer 1994) I have had good visuals unless I took a low dose.

it is why I love LSD come to think of it, if it wasn't visual i would not take it

LOL, no offense, but you are in no position to call what I experience real visuals or not real visuals. That’s not how it works. The visuals I get from LSD are very real, and far more than just tracers & breathing walls. LSD is every bit as transformative as DMT to me.

"no doubt LSD and Ayahuasca are very strong psychadelics yet i am comparing them always in my mind to our beloved Spice so they somehow fall a lot short of true spectacular annhilating visually charged 4d visual Magnificience that is our beloved spirit molecule"

I have easily gone as far with both ayahuasca and mushrooms alone as I have with vaped DMT..both in depth of breakthrough and in the visionary potential. I think a lot of people underestimate both ayahuasca and mushrooms in their ability to produce complete reality dissolving breakthrough experiences.

Yeah, I have literally seen the walls of a room disappear, the floor and ceiling stretching to infinity and flown through canyons inside the grain on the surface of a leather couch.

BIG dosages to get there, but still...

As well I have seen auras and bright orbs of light surrounding mine and other's bodies, images which can clearly be seen just as real and persistant as the rest of physical reality and magical mandala like visions that overlay and intertwine with everything, in constant motion. Different from the spice for sure, but certainly very visual in nature.

Sometimes I really miss the old days.

No medications (with the exception of birth control, but I seriously doubt that it would be the culprit to her tolerance)



Perhaps she will have a similar experience?

Well if my first shroom grow goes as I hope, the first flush should be appearing in roughly 2-3 weeks from now, so we'll see if she can't get a good trip with those.

Thanks everyone for their input!! Perhaps some of us have a slightly different definition of what visuals are, where tracers and breathing walls by some are considered visuals, and by others as simply the enhancement/amplification of what you're already seeing, either way you look at it, she's still not had any luck experiencing those things.

It seems to me that we have reached "the bottom" of this discussion (again) that different psychedelics affect different people in slightly differently.

I have a friend who got into a graduate program in psychology, because he wanted to understand why he doesn´t get any visuals on LSD (which doesn´t mean it doesn´t affect him profoundly). With mescaline, I don´t get absolutely any visuals up to 400mgs, yet I wouldn´t dare to say it is not a psychedelic dose...

Doesn't ayahuasca contain DMT?

Of course it does
But there is, I would dare to say, notable difference in "visual activity" between orally active and vaporized DMT

it does lose its magic over time , the visual effects drop with every hit you take ,

jamie i am not underestimating Ayahuasca , Mushrooms or LSD infact at good doseages they easily rival Spice however i am scared of going so deep , i have had multiple experiences with upto 5-6 hits of LSD and they are easily more powerful that DMT in the way they go on more than 20 hours with full immersion

however i am chickening out when it comes to taking breakthrough doses of longer acting entheogens for they are so strong that i hardly wish to go there , i cannot take hours and hours of total immersion that is just too much

so i hardly go over a tab of LSD generally , sometimes two if a extremely good party is happenin , otherwise i don't want to even take LSD because it is that Powerful i never take it if i dont have something good to do

i take ayahuasca alone and never party on it , just for healing . love and gratitude , and also never going too high doseages with it either ,

these longer acting entheogens when takes one for full immersion , the least i can say is its not pretty for me , i am scared , i am only taking longer acting psychadelics in lower doseages ...... perhaps i should have thought about that before writin the above posts , sure high doses are a different game altogether

all of entheogens have my total respect since many a times they have monumentally kicked my A$$ for the better

"jamie i am not underestimating Ayahuasca , Mushrooms or LSD infact at good doseages they easily rival Spice however i am scared of going so deep"

Yeah it is freaky. I dont like to do that often at all. Vaping DMT is just so fast so the time limit available to really loose it is not there. By the time I am flipping out I might have 1 minute of freak out time before I start to calm down again.

Not really. You just have not taken a large dose of oral DMT. You have to take a large dose to get there vaped also, it's just easier to make yourself do that for obvious reasons. Ayahuasca can be more visual than most people(or all) would care for.

Tolerance does rise as you take it, but it also drops with time. Take a good long break from psychedelics & I think you’ll be surprised with the results. There was a time when I wouldn’t dose under 1000 mics, and could easily handle that much in public. Nowadays 300 mics gets me every bit as much as it did in the early years. The brain has a high capacity for balancing itself back out given the proper amount of time to do so. This summer I took some LSD for the first time in years, a dose that at one point I’d just take to make a night out at the bars a little more interesting, and I was straight laid out with my jaw dropped. Blew me away just like it did when I was new to psychedelics.



Likewise. The older I get the less comfortable I am with going all out. There’s just no way that I could dose the way I used to anymore….or even want to really. It took me a long time to learn that less is more. Such is the nature of growing up I guess…..

Its strange, I am actually the same way with all of this. No matter the substance, I need more of it to gain the same effects that all my friends gain from smaller dosages. I even took a sugar cube that had 4-5 hits laid on it, and everyone else did the same thing. All I experienced was an intense body load that was extremely euphoric, and slightly shifting backgrounds when staring at a single object for long periods of time. However, everyone else that had taken a whole cube as well (4-5 hits) were on the verge of losing their minds due to the amount of visuals they were receiving. They said they did not even seem to be in reality at the height of it.

Now why cant some people, including myself, get to those places with the same dosage as others? Who really knows. Maybe our bodies contain more Monoamide Oxidase, so more of the substances we are taking in is actually getting broken down by our bodies then by others? Its not just acid that this happens with as well, it also occurs with mushrooms, bud, pills, you name it. If I have tried it, its taken more for me then others around me.