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adnjoo
#1 Posted : 2/26/2013 12:52:13 PM
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I smoked ~30mg, and then ~70mg of freebase DMT in conjunction with cannabis as a bottom layer, in a MFLB. The vapour had powerful, thick accents; I took deep breaths.

Though I didn't breakthrough (I think) I heard a high pitched buzz, saw short term visual shifting, different thinking patterns about some topics, and a warm body buzz.

I'm not sure what percentage of effects came from the weed or the DMT but I'm pretty sure that the experience was not cannabis-exclusive.

The reasons why I think my preparation was not good enough;
1) Quantity over time. I think you need to take in more, in less time.
2) Smoking method was poor.

I've read that you can soak the crystals in acetone and then let an agent like cannabis or tobacco soak up the acetone.

What are some thoughts on this? I'm not very experienced with freebase smoking so experienced members' feedback would be nice.

1)Did my vapeing go wrong because of my method, or the quantitity?
2)If you vape or smoke this (c/t + acetone soak DMT) can you breakthrough?
3)Other recs. on breaking through?


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#2 Posted : 2/26/2013 1:22:53 PM

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adnjoo wrote:
I smoked ~30mg, and then ~70mg of freebase DMT in conjunction with cannabis as a bottom layer, in a MFLB. The vapour had powerful, thick accents; I took deep breaths.

Though I didn't breakthrough (I think) I heard a high pitched buzz, saw short term visual shifting, different thinking patterns about some topics, and a warm body buzz.

I'm not sure what percentage of effects came from the weed or the DMT but I'm pretty sure that the experience was not cannabis-exclusive.

The reasons why I think my preparation was not good enough;
1) Quantity over time. I think you need to take in more, in less time.
2) Smoking method was poor.

I've read that you can soak the crystals in acetone and then let an agent like cannabis or tobacco soak up the acetone.

What are some thoughts on this? I'm not very experienced with freebase smoking so experienced members' feedback would be nice.

1)Did my vapeing go wrong because of my method, or the quantitity?
2)If you vape or smoke this (c/t + acetone soak DMT) can you breakthrough?
3)Other recs. on breaking through?


Your quantity was ok. It was most likely your smoking method. If you smoke that much DMT the right way, there will be a lot more than visual shifting.

You can make enhanced leaf out of your weed if you want to. You can use either acetone or isopropyl alcohol, but I prefer the alcohol. You dissolve the DMT (1g is standard) in your acetone or alcohol, and then after it's dissolved (should take about a second or two of swirling it around a bit) you can then put in your ground up bud and let the alcohol/acetone evaporate. When it's dry, you'll have yourself some DMT-infused bud. Some people prefer this way, and it does make it harder to burn the DMT, and you can just smoke it like it's regular weed out of whatever you want, so it has its advantages in that regard. I never like the taste though, and if you infuse it into weed, you still need to hold in your hits as long as you can, and the harshness from the weed can increase the difficulty and ease in doing this. You can always use an inert leaf like mullein or something like that which will be much smoother and also won't color the trip so much either.

If you wanna breakthrough, getting your entire dose in a short period is gonna be the way to go, but you shouldn't need 100mg to breakthrough no matter what smoking device you're using.
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#3 Posted : 2/26/2013 4:53:41 PM

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I agree with Global. Changa might be the way to go. And with the dose man, 100mg would be a very high dose for just about anyone. I usually do 20-50 mg. If it is pure, that will do the trick.
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#4 Posted : 2/26/2013 5:59:30 PM

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Try a bong instead of the Launch Box. Love my MFLB for cannabis, but I don't think it reaches a hot enough temp fast enough to vape DMT or Changa. Either load a bowl w/ Changa or sandwich spice in between layers of an appropriate herb. Toke until the bong is just full of smoke, exhale fully, then complete the rip.

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#5 Posted : 2/26/2013 11:00:31 PM

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Any time you incorporate bud/tobacco with your rips its going to alter the mood of the spice, If you can try and isolate so you are only taking in DMT smoke your going to have cleaner experiences and be more focused on the journey at hand. There are so many ways to create your own vape pipe, just get creative with some glass Cool .

Also try blue lotus flower, you can infuse with same method listed above or just dabble it on, the effects mesh really well.

Best of luck friend!

 
 
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