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circusbob
#1 Posted : 1/20/2013 6:38:23 AM

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I had heard about dmt and breakthroughs and fully understood the comcept of an indescribable. Experience
Quite the well travelled psychonaut i tried it expecting something miraculous to happen
Set on some music and went in

It apparently was not a large enough dose.
I closed my eyes and saw a light show before me.
I could open my eyes and be back
I was enjoying it then the music started skipping
As it skipped the light show lost its harmonious flow
As i switched songs the harmony in color returned
I shut the music off and began to play some music myself and had lots of fun creating my bhai own light show with music
Soon after the effect faded


My second experience i was prepared to play music and had instruments ready
I thought there may be a correlation between pitch and color
I find it interesting that i find color fascinating because i have a color deficiency
I layed back and closed my eyes and the color pattern emerged.
I then could make out a silloutte of someone or something
I could see it perfectly but it was communicating with me telepathically
I just knew what his message was
He was telling me as if he was a bouncer at a club. Look man your a cool guy but your not getting in here tonight
I was all like. Man im totally prepared just let me in
He was like. Sorry. But you can go over there if you want
I looked to my left and saw a 2 dimensional figure of a pregnant woman and i could see the child growing nside her
She was completely red. I didnt know what this meant
Maybe i have mommy issues or i have just or need to knock some girl up first i dont know
I motioned back to the bouncer and although i couldnt really see him i knew he had horns like a bull or buffalo
He wouldnt let me pass and the vision faded

My third encounter was awesome.
A friend of mine set me up on his couch and as i layed back the visions took new shape
Maybe this was because what i had just smoked was a different batch
There were layers this time. Like and moving mostly same colored screen saver in the back
And a morphing image in the front. The more i watched the image in the front the more 3 dimensional it became
As i watched this symbol the was some sort of information transfer to me
I found my self feeling as if i had just learned something and thoughts like
Ok i understand that now.
I get it
Go on
Popped in my head

And then. I saw the hands. Human hands breaking through all of this imagery
The were waving at me like. Hey were over here. Come this way
It only lasted a second but during that there was the sound ncreasing in pitch we all know so well happening
I thought at the time if i could make the pitch get higher i could break through
I tried and never could.
The vision faded


Heres where things start to get interesting for me
I attened the rainbow gathering this past year and was camped next to a 12 string guitarist
He wanted to play for me during my trip
I layed back and he played the most beautiful song
First thing i saw was a toy helicopter slowly turnng its blades and flying away from me
Then i saw a figure of a woman in an old fashioned dress dancing, spinning t the music
Then a ghostly figure came up to me. It kind of looked like the bad guy from harry potter
Just a head and a ghostly trail behind him. He came up to me and looked right at me
I saw his face and he left as if i wasnt the guy he was lookng for.
The light show continued in perfect harmony with the music
Once the vision faded i awoke and looked at the guitarist and said
Your from the desert arent you
He said yeah im from west texas
I said. I could tell. Your music is desert orange and yellow
His response was. I thought that song was blue


I went in again that night during a drum circle
I was actually kinda pissed because it was all quiet and two drummeasidearted playing and they werent playing together
Sounded kinda crappy. All the colors i saw were blobbed together and there was a squiggly shaped circle
Next thng you know a strong drummer jumped in and the rest followed.
Suddenly all of the geometry straightend out. Into tetrahedrons and the colors separated into every shade of green
Apparently there is not only a link between pitch and color but also rhythm and geometry as well



Ok. This third rainbow one is incredible. Still no breakthrough
I layed back on a log mid day and drifted
I saw some patterns moving and slowy statlrted to pull my perception back from it
There were beings. I saw their shapes their sillouttes. There were four of them
Keep in mind that this is still not a breakthrough. I asked them to show me something cool i could build
I like to build things like musical instruments
The picked up two forks and scraped them across each other
I was like. Is this some sort of joke
I looked at one of them. Their sillouttes were each filled in and crawling with moving designs
A flash happened an for a brief. Second i saw his form
He was dressed like a japanese warrior
The vision faded
It was my birthday that day and all i wanted was a cup of coffe
I was getting sick of all this hippie tea so. Went to a campsite and said its my birthday and all i want is a cup of coffee
They started a huge pot and i served coffee to everybody
The reason im throwing this i. There is because i met this girl there.
Ishe was one of those peo ppl le you meet and feel like you. Know them already
I looked right through her
We talked about her friend who wanted one of the drums i make
Now later on that evening i was drawn to that campsite because there was an awesome violin and flute jam happening and then i heard it
There was a guy playing an udu. On of those clay pots from india
I played it and he saw my drums. Eventually we made a trade
Right after we made the trade this girl came back and that was her friend who wanted a drum
He then showed me a new instulrument he bought. It was a tube that functioned as a frequency oscillator.
Like a tuning fork. Simple design. Ive made a few since. I guess the elves werent fucking with me after all
One more amazing coincidence. Guy hands me his business card. It has a flaming treble clef on it
I juggle fire and had a photo taken of me where i spun a flaming treble clef in time lapse
Weird

Over the summer i tried it aboht three more times
I felt as though i was being taught something like a language. A new way of seeing the worlds
I had one experience where everythng moved really fast and there were people that looked like cave paintings passing in front of me
Dancing like they were at a big party

Ill continue the next experiences in the following threads
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circusbob
#2 Posted : 1/20/2013 6:57:33 AM

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Then next time i went in was weird week for me. My father had just been hit by a car and killed
It was a couple days later and i had my roomate who was an old friend of mine watch me
This time was a new batch
I layed back on the couch and next thing you know
Im in this giant library. hUGE!
No books on any of the shelves
The ceiling was endless as was the depth
I heard two voices
One was asking a question
Ther other was answering it
I realized the voice asking was my subconcious. I recognized the voice
And whatever the answers were. They were true
I thought wow. This must be where edgar cayce went to access the akashic records
I already knew for some reason that my subconcious had already asked 5 questions and recieved answers
I knew i could ask anything i wanted so i thought. What should i ask
Just as soon as i realized i needed to pick a question
I was right back on the couch
Compete and total breakthrough
I told my buddy the experience and then had to call a friend for some reason
Almost.like and instinct to tell her i loved her

Just wow!

A couple nights later i decided to go in again
Maybe ask some questions
Im thrown into this room
A different room this time
More like an art museam
Beige wall, partitions with wood trim
Somewhat of a double vision experience
I immediately thought. Im back
As if i had been to this place before
I was going to run somewhere like i knew where to go
Then i was suddenly paralyzed
Not in a scary or negative way
And i heard a strong voice say
Stop. Look. Wait. And listen
We know more about you than you know about yourself
We know your in some tough times and that you father just died and you have more tough times ahead of you
Just stop. Look. Wait. And listen. And come back and see us sometime

While i heard this voice. Which sounded like a mans voice. I felt as thought i was being wheeled around on a hand truck
They wheeled me to see two things they had built. The first i cannot remember at all. It was so foreign but had many angles and looked like absract art. The second looked like a bong with two skinny stems. It was red. I thougbt it was some sort of transmitter. I then for the first time saw the crysanthemum pattern and was returned back to my couch

I love couches. I have only three more experiences to share within my life. These next few have given me a mission of aome strange sorts. Its all deep and personal but its late where i am. I will add them to this thread soon enough
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circusbob
#3 Posted : 1/21/2013 4:12:08 AM

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Ok. If you refer to my previous posts above youll see i made some sort of connection between light and pitch. Rhythm andgeometry
I did alot of investigative research on the matter since these experiences
What i found is that newton theorized on the link between pitch and color while breaking down the color spectrum
Alot of other great minds investigated the matter as well
My research has led me to understand that pitch is a frequency
As humans we typically hear around ten octaves of notes
When the frequency is raised above that it is no longer audible sound
Its somewhere in the infrared spectrum
Keep doubling the frequency over and over
Creating higher and higher octaves of itself and
Around 40 octaves above audible sound. We reach visible light
Heres the kicker
Visible light. From red to violet spans one octave
If you understand any of this then you realize the implications of this could be astounding

Anywho. I have more experiences to share.....
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circusbob
#4 Posted : 1/21/2013 4:39:25 AM

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About a year before this trip into the realm i met a girl
We spend a night together on the beach and dropped some L
That night i apparently confessed love for her and my whole life changed
She spins a fire hoop
While watching her dance in the sand i had a vision
A giant gyroscope riding on a gimbal
The gimbal is set on fire and the rings of fire move in and out of each other
Anyways. Long story short i fell for this muse who continued to inspire me
Things were going well and then one day i guess i wasnt her flavor anymore
Still friends and were in the same social network i was constantly reminded of this
I caught a few girls on the rebound but with each one i felt as though i was insulting them by being with them
While thinking of my muse uncontrollably
I finally met one girl who seemed like a good distraction
Only problem we ever had was after we had sex and all that dopamine rushed into our brains
All i could think of was this gyroscope idea
My girlfriend really started to get irritated by this.
Later on. After my father passed and i had my breakthroughs into hyperspace i started having weird dream
Lots of dreams about snakes. Often biting me while i felt no pain or slithering away while i tried to catch them
I think it was symbolic of my muse but none the less my dreams have been much more intense since the breakthrough
I had 2 dreams i really need to share

I never had a dream that felt this real ever in my life
Most dreams are full of familiar people and places but things are usually weird and well. Unusual
Not this time
My muse and i were at a freinds house
One of my favorite places to be in the world
Were were just playing. Spinning fire for what seemed like hours in my dream
It felt so real.
I woke up at 4 am wired for no reason
Went through my morning routine realizing i woukd not sleep and my phone had died
I charged it and saw that she tried to call me while i was asleep.
About 20 minutes before i woke up
I thought that was weird and didnt think much of it

A couple week later i had a dream that only lasted a couple seconds from what i could remember
But it felt just as real as the last one
This time it was a dream about a man who i had never met
He was standing in front of me
Behind him was a cabin in the woods
The sky was grey and cloudy
He smiled and handed me a kit with a vile and an eye dropper and said
Be careful

I woke up and couldnt stop thinking about this dream all day
When i went home i decided to plug my old phone in
I had recently switched providers
Just to see if i had any last minute messages
A friend of mine had moved to cali and wanted to mail me something
The dream suddenly made sense
I declined the offer but was amazed by the dream itself
Clairvoyance through dreams. Amazing

But wait. I was supposed to tell you about hyperspace. Im getting to that
The girl i was seeing. The one who was distracting me from my muse was doing a great job.
But the day my father died. Even before his death my muse was on my mind again. Uncontrollably
I thought that was strange. I thought i had kicked the habit.
Well that didnt go too well with my girl. So we split. Now im left obsessing over someone who doesnt want me
I realized how pointless it is to persue someone who does not want to be with you so i focused all of my energy on trying to forget about her. I decided to hit up hyperspace to either ask the gods or my subconcious or whatever how to clear my head
I spent a great deal of time memorizing my question which i cannot recall now
I went in and never really broke through but a feminine diety appeared before me
Body covered.in fractals. Wearing a crown. She was blocking my path in telepathically saying
No no no no no in a sweet calming voice
I tried to ask her about my muse and all that came out was
What about dad?
Then i noticed she was blocking an opening in the sky. Through it was brilliant white light
And i tried again h ut all that would come out of me is
What about dad
My efforts were futile
I let the vision pass and tried to enjoy the rest of it
Stop. Look. Wait. Listen
 
circusbob
#5 Posted : 1/21/2013 5:16:11 AM

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A few days later i finally dreamed about my father and figured i had gotten over his death
Strange thing is it was about a month and a half after his death that i had this dream
How long do tibetans believe it takes a soul to reincarnate?

Anyways i tried again to free my muse casey from my mind
I formed a question that i thought was fool proof
"What do i need to do to free her from my mind or to justify the thoughts i have for her?"
I memorized it for at least half an hour
I went in
Everything was white and out of nowhere bicycles started appearing
They were trying to show me bicycles
I stopped them and said
Look. I know you have some cool things to show me but ive got a problem
What about casey

Wait. What happened to my well formed question again. They wouldnt answer. I got angry
I demanded WHaT ABOUT CASEY!
They answered the only way they could. They turned me ninety degrees to my left and showed me a dancing image
It was feminine in nature and possibly the most beautiful thing i had ever seen
Then transmitted the thought
Look. If you want to stare at this you can stare at this
And if you get bored with that heres another and they showed me another beautiful image that was green
Other than color you could not differentiate the two
The ended with. Stare at either but eventually youll get bored with both. We will be right over her when you want to cone look atbicycles again
I stared at the green beauty for a little while and realized they were right. I will grow weary of this
I had come to realize that no person will ever satisfy me and thats kind of a depressing thought so i went back to the bicycles
They wheeled one up to me. Old fashioned looking and in the front wheel there were a bunch of other designs for bicycles insideo it
It was almost like they werent trying to show me anythng specific. Just get my imagination working as to what a bicycles. Could be
I woke up and the first thought in my mind was. They answered my question. I have to build this gyroscope
I have a mission

A few days later i had a hum day at work and got really stressed out. I was second guessing their answer so i went back in
Bad idea. Before i could close my eyes i saw a figure in my room with a red mandala over its chest and stomach
Everythng went white
I panicked and said no this is too much information for me
I pulled myself out and spent half an hour with multi colored sine waves dancing around my house
As i looked at my body my hands were green and every cut and scar i had was a different color
On instinct i knew i was not supposed to smoke again until i completed my previous mission
Thats why they overwhelmed me

Oh and one more thing i forgot to mention about my second breakthrough. The stop look wait and listen. Ive learned those words are meditation techniques and during that experience they said sonething else to me. The said we know you going to come in here and try to take control of this enviornment and thats not gonna happen. Just stop look wait and listen.
I keep breaking that rule. Its in my nature

I find that my first few thoughts as i awake fron hyperspace are my most profound
From what i have gathered
I have lived many lives. Possibly thousands
I was once a god like them. Maybe we all are
But i chose to be amongst the ranks of the living because i thought i.could help
Instead i had too much fun. And fucked up
Now im caught in this cycle of life death reincarnation
However i was able to witness all of the events in this life i am living now befoe i chose to be born i.to it

But thats just me
And please dont think i really believe all of this
Im a scientist at heart and always a skeptic

I belieive fifty fifty that everything couldve been all in my head
Or its all real
If its all in my head. Then theres nothing to think about. But whats the harm in humoring the thoughts
But. It could be real and if it is. Why wouldnt you tuink about it


Anyways. Im seeking art grants to help pay for this massive fire gyro thingy because i dont want to continue obsessing over this girl anymore. I dont know what will happen once the piece is built and debuted. But i have a few theories

She will fall into my arms and we live happily ever after
Highly unlikey. If she does fall into my arms. It probably wont be for long
And that would probably result with skitzophrenic tendencies emerging from me
But im a fool in love so id fall for it

Another possibility. She will do or say something to set my.mind at ease
Possibility of occurence. Unsure. But ill take it

Another possibility. I find someone else who is the ultimate distraction fron her


And lastly. And this is the one thing in life that scares the shit out of me
She will inspire something else for me to build and obsess over
And i dont want to live like that anymore.

Thats my story. A tale of brilliant artistry that can only be created through the pain of unrequited love
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circusbob
#6 Posted : 2/20/2013 4:27:11 AM

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Thank you

I actually ventured baxk to hyperspace a couple nights ago

I sat back in a recliner with my buddy observing
Everything i saw was two dimensional and still like portraits
I saw two lovers in a mildly passionate embrace. They looked like medival drawings much like on a playing card
As i turned my head i saw a man with wings by himself flying in a superman pose. Made me think as though these were two choices i have in my life
Everthing slowly started to turn three dimensional and at the last minute i had a vision of a little grey dude laying pipe in a big three dimensional matrix going in crazy directions
The vision faded

During this experience my buddy had his pandora playing and i asked who was the band but he did not respond. When i came out of it i asked him again who was playing and he said he heard me ask that but didnt tell me because he didnt know if he should speak to me while hallucinating. He then told me that i said everything was moving to the music. I dont recall saying this and as i remember nothing was actually moving with the music.

I dipped in again that night and went futher but this time me and my buddy did an experiment
We wrote down a series of questions he was going to ask me while i was under the experience went as follows

Once under he asked the first question
"What are dreams?"
I responded with "now is not the time to ask that, i see an eye with big eyelashes..... its beautiful"
He waited thirty seconds and asked
"What signifigant events will happen to us over the next year?"
I responded with "theres nobody here to answer that" the eye then morphed into fish and the body of the fish had a big eye on it
As the fish appeared depth came unto this world and everything appeared blue as if i was within a giant tunnel of aquariums and the fish were swimming on the walls
He then asked the final question which was my own question trying to figure out symbols in recurring dreams i have ben having
He asked "what is the difference between the black snake the red snake and the constrictor?"
All the fish swam away at that point and i was left in the psychedelic aquarium alone
I said theres nobody here to answer that
He asked "is anybody or anything there that wants to answer these questions?"
I looked around and said nope. Nobodys here
The vision faded

I went in one more time that night and this one was cool
It started off with a two dimensional asian figure. She started to move
The way she moved was almost like a marianette would. She was rubbing her groin and started rubbing faster and faster
I thought. Wtf i dont wanna see this. Stop it. The second i thought that i was in a three dimensional triangular tunnel
There were a series of gates in this tunnel that were opening for me. I cannot remember it the triangle was right side up or upside down
But the gates looked like something out of the original stargate movie
I knew where i was about to go was going to be cool and was quite excited.
But it seems that the second i knew the gates were opening for me to get somewhere i felt the impression that im too impatient
And even said that to myself. The gates started to close and i drifted backwards the way i had come through the tunnel
I began to chant in my head what i was taught on a previous experience.
Stop. Look. Wait. Listen. But it did no good
I started seeing gears and shapes and realized the had thrown me back into what i now understand as "the playpen"
Thoughts were projected towards me saying. You need to look at this you havent learned this yet. Thats why your back here
Half of me wanted to look and learn but the other half of me was a little irritated that i was back in the playpen
I mean. Ive fully broken through several times and im back in the damn playpen! However since this whole experience i catch myself when im being too impatient in life or at least i recognize it


My buddy finally decided to try it himself, swearing he was immune to psychedelics because hes never had a visual on anything hes ever tried and yes weve tripped together.
He didnt like the taste much which is why he didnt go too deep. But he seemed to enjoy it
He accounts that he saw a little ball come from his forehead and move away from him yet as it moved away it got bigger
He then got the feeling like he was under water. Suddenly a little "grey dude" poked his head around the corner of his perception and looked at him and it had to look at him a couple times as if it was surprised to see him
His vision faded. I told him he saw his third eye and he seemed to kinda get it. At least he believes the fantastic tales i tell him now
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#7 Posted : 2/20/2013 11:17:57 AM
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Fantastic story ! I really feel for you on the obsessing part . I've often tried to get questions for unrequited love, past hurts ect. It feels embarrassing and trivial things to ask but these feelings can be so consuming it's hard to move forward in life. I'm also always in two minds if it's just me or if it's all real. I think maybe one of the best answers I received was to send true love out to a person, regardless of whether it was received or acknowledged it was as far as my duty goes towards them. It doesn't help though! I'm far to unenlightened to just let go of anger!
Do let us know how the project and your feelings develop
 
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#8 Posted : 2/20/2013 8:40:02 PM

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Hey brother,

long post, i have only read your first post so far, i will read the rest,

but just want to say you have tapped into an eternal mystery this interaction of sound and color and rythm and geometry, and that you are not alone, in fact this phenomena has been blowing my mind for years now.

High pitched intense fast sound waves are purple, or red, , just like a rainbow, slow bass waves are green, blue, in fact generally more smooth and clean stuff gives purple and green visions, where as edgy ringy qualiteis induce red and even black visions.

for me, music isnt just sound, its a whole picture, a whole place, its a telepathic transmission of an idea.

Music can absolutely transcend language and communicate concepts that could never be commuicated in the way we are talking now with words. Telepathy after all isnt knowing what someone thinks, it is KNOWING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MEANS, KNOWING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MEANS. just wanted to emphasize that.

The rabbit hole goes so deep with music, light, geometry, and tripping, that we have seriously only begun to delve into the possibilities.

Music can guide your conciuosness on journeys, straghit up it takes you places, i think the new form of a shaman, is someone who will earn how to alter sound waves in a way that drives conciousness in a specific direction. A digital icaro if you will.

Cheers and i look forward to reading the rest
You have never been apart from me. You can never depart and never return, for we are continuous, indistinguishable. We are eternal forever
 
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#9 Posted : 2/20/2013 9:56:34 PM

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samphire wrote:
Fantastic story ! I really feel for you on the obsessing part . I've often tried to get questions for unrequited love, past hurts ect. It feels embarrassing and trivial things to ask but these feelings can be so consuming it's hard to move forward in life. I'm also always in two minds if it's just me or if it's all real. I think maybe one of the best answers I received was to send true love out to a person, regardless of whether it was received or acknowledged it was as far as my duty goes towards them. It doesn't help though! I'm far to unenlightened to just let go of anger!
Do let us know how the project and your feelings develop



Thank you for the awesome response. I find it so good to be a part of this forum and have... well people like you and me that hearing about others psychedelic journeys. I would like to let you know that as far as feelings go im not really angry at anyone. If i am im angry at myself for not bwing abke to kick a childish obsession thats hung on for a year and a half. As far as the project goes ill know by march tenth if the next festie i hit will fund it. Take care
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#10 Posted : 2/20/2013 10:09:00 PM

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BecometheOther wrote:
Hey brother,

long post, i have only read your first post so far, i will read the rest,

but just want to say you have tapped into an eternal mystery this interaction of sound and color and rythm and geometry, and that you are not alone, in fact this phenomena has been blowing my mind for years now.

High pitched intense fast sound waves are purple, or red, , just like a rainbow, slow bass waves are green, blue, in fact generally more smooth and clean stuff gives purple and green visions, where as edgy ringy qualiteis induce red and even black visions.

for me, music isnt just sound, its a whole picture, a whole place, its a telepathic transmission of an idea.

Music can absolutely transcend language and communicate concepts that could never be commuicated in the way we are talking now with words. Telepathy after all isnt knowing what someone thinks, it is KNOWING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MEANS, KNOWING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MEANS. just wanted to emphasize that.

The rabbit hole goes so deep with music, light, geometry, and tripping, that we have seriously only begun to delve into the possibilities.

Music can guide your conciuosness on journeys, straghit up it takes you places, i think the new form of a shaman, is someone who will earn how to alter sound waves in a way that drives conciousness in a specific direction. A digital icaro if you will.

Cheers and i look forward to reading the rest



Hey man.
Wanted to say thanks for reading

Your a dj arent you?

I wanted to talk a little more about light and sound. Everything come in waves and therefore everything has octaves
Now your saying that the low low frequencies are greens and the highs are violets. Well where the the reds and yellows come into play? What if its all a matter of perception of the being

Take a snake for example. From our studies we know that snakes see a form of infrared. Now to us when we view infrared using our technology we see blobs of heat that are color coded. Red on white. White on black. Whatever makes sense to us. Now consider that if a snake sees infrared which is beyond our visible spectrum. What if the entirefy of the snakes visual spectrum is broken down into an octave of color much like we see. Whereas our red may be the snakes violet or ultraviolet and the snakes greens blues and so forth are within the infrared.
And if my pc didnt crap out on me this week (im using a phone at the moment) id send you a link which you may be able to find regarding rhythm and geometry. Its a method of playing congas where you take a circle and write numbers on it like a clocks face. However you only have numbers going up as high as the beats in the measure. Then you count the rhythm played on one of the drums and draw a shape on the clock face with an angle at each beat you would strike that drum. Do it for each drum struck and different rhythms suddenly create different geometric shapes
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