I've had many experiences of Deja Vu in my life, but after my last trip to hyperspace in August or so I have been experiencing it ALL THE TIME. I quit tripping, Smoking cigs, smoking ganja and have only rolled a couple of times since then. I wanted to experience the world "sober". I have drank quite a few times since my last breakthrough but only gotten drunk maybe once/twice. So I would say I'm about as sober as someone can be, even down to drinking caffeine very rarely and now every other day or so.(every day for a week or so now though)

So does any one else get Deja Vu like all the time? The funny thing is I say "all the time" when the last time I broke through I saw time and why it was here.(So everything doesn't happen at once)

I really would like to know if anyone is getting deja vu a lot or even once a week and if dmt has any correlation to it or what. It gets to sometimes it's like I can remember whats going to happen, like the super bowl when the cardinals got the touchdown near the end I knew they still weren't going to win, and I don't pay attention to mainstream sports at all, just like a gut feeling.

Any ideas?

well anything is possible.


the game thing sounds more like a coincidence, deja vu is where you feel like youve experienced the exact same moment before, or feeling, smell taste.. ect.

im pretty sure on that one..

but i know what you mean dmt has a very deja vu feeling, kinda like shrooms; that feeling of "coming home again'

a friend once said dmt is like a bunch of coincidences..

sometimes after a strong trip you will notice things after (afterglow) sometimes you may feel you are more paranoid & notice more bad thing in the world, or with your case, coincidences/deja vu..

its always there, you just have to notice

a few times when SWIM smoked some dust..he got massive deja vu..and it does happen other times..but not as often as you say...granted thats not saying that he cant predict the outcome of many things based on what he feels in his gut..but its not deja vu

I have had this on acid, but not with DMT.

actually those times when he smoke dmt and had deja vu we was also on acid...

Statistically it is more unlikely to not have coincidences than not. It is just that when they do happen we are so amazed, but all the times they could of or don't we just do not notice.
There are scientific studies into the neural mechanisms involved in de ja vu. There is an explanation. Some people are more proned to this experience than others.

Im not talking about while dosed, deemsterzed what have you, im talking about sober if the Deja Vu type experiences have happened more after you broke through.

I have noticed a big deja vu experience commonality among the majority of my fellow traveler friends.... it is that "DEJA VU/COMING HOME/I'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE" feeling.... my theory is.... we get that feeling because we have been there before. The reason we don't remember it is because we experienced those things during the time we were children. Most children had imaginary friends, whether they remember them or not. Me for example, I didn't talk to imaginary friends but I do remember being aware of the existence of beings other than me. Memories of being aware of alien intelligences through toys, nature, my own inner imagination, and especially in hidden places like under my bed. After a triptamine experience, I made this connection. Those triptamine experiences are spookily similar to some of my childhood experiences.



Since then, through discussion, I have helped several friends make that same connection. When they spoke of DEJA VU, and it being like they knew that place/being from somewhere.... I understood what they meant. They took a minute to understand it.... but several friends concurred with this theory.

A few friends have said that the entities that were communicating to them in a triptamine trip....... were the same entities which whom they communicated with as a child, and that is why they seemed to familiar.

As far as having an ongoing and reoccurring feeling of DEJA VU, I am not sure. But I suspect that my explanation might help you understand your situation better. Considering how many people this has helped...

The world is full of magic. Magic that as adults, we have grown to overlook. Somehow it has become blocked out. The triptamine reality exists in parallel to ours.... that is why we as children were often able to make a glimpses into it. I don't know how or why it happens... but it seems that this is the case....

I am a child of the late 80s/early 90s.... and the feeling I get from these entities... for example, is the same vibe that I got from the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. These beings were communicating with me then.. through my imagination and the TMNT.

There are a lot more examples... think about it and try to make that DEJA VU connection....

Oh yeah. Absolutely. Entheogens have completely rewired Swim's sense of time, dmt in particular. He pretty much ALWAYS gets the most massive de ja vu when he injests dmt, but he gets de ja vu and similar phenomenae quite frequently even when "sober" whatever that means, and feels this is due to his having learned to "tune in" to a different frequency or mode of perception, as it were. He can even control it to some extent.
This also includes synchronicities. Sure as BM points out there is a statistical probability that one will experience coincidence from time to time. Swim noticed what could be considered an average frequency of coincidences for about the first twenty or so years of his life (yes I realize coincidence is not the same thing as de ja vu but they seem to be related somehow). Then he had a series of mystical experiences sparked in part by entheogens where synchronicities were happening off the charts. WAY too often to just chalk it up to randomness. It almost drove him insane, the feeling that the universe was somehow intelligent or that someone or something was manipulating events in a way that made them line up with his thoughts or vice versa. Since then he has learned how to control it to some extent. He can now intentionally enter into a mindframe that is somewhat tapped into this realm, and when he does so synchronicities and other strange phenomenae start happening with frequency far beyond chance. Then he can drop back out into "channel normal" and make them pretty much stop (which he has to do from time to time in order to maintain his sanity). Yes entheogens help with this but are not necessary. It's like once you learn to open the gateway you don't need them.
Tim Leary's 8 circuit model gives one paradigm for this sort of thing. The fourth circuit is responsible for percieving the forth dimension, time, as we commonly understand it in our society. Without going into detail, circuits 5-8 recapitulate circuits 1-4 but on a higher, more conscious level. So circuit 8 would be responsible for hyperchronal perception, if you will... and DMT is the most potent 8th circuit agonist Swim is aware of.
It's kinda like if you went thru life with your eyes closed the entire time, then took a "drug" that made you open them... and then once you learned how to do it, you could open or close them at will.
BTW a related anectode: Swim once watched the Xfiles movie at the theater whilst on mushrooms and had de ja vu the entire time, throughout the whole movie he swore he had seen it before, and knew stuff that was gonna happen, etc., yet there was obviously no way he could have seen it before because it had just been released, but it really felt like watching a movie you have seen before.
For it to happen occasionally can be chalked up to coincidence or random neural "glitches." For it to happen for two hours straight is a different story. And then when he had the incident he referred to earlier, coincidences were happening every day, several times a day, for several months.
During this time one of the many coincidences Swim had was to learn of others who had had such experiences. One of these was author Phillip K. Dick, who referred to his period of crazy shit happening all the time as 2-3-74 because it happened during feb and mar of 1974. Check it out if you're interested. This was also when he learned of Terrence McKenna, who has reported similar synchronistic phenomenae. I could go on...

Thank you two very much those two replies really connect with my experiences in ways.. the TMNT and being a kid, those were my only toys that I really could like imagine myself into their world whatever you call it.
SyZyGyPsy thanks for mentioning the synchronicities they happen like crazy, sometimes all day long sometimes not for a day or two but I know what your saying about keeping your sanity. Depending on my state of mind you can drive down the street and the universe will talk to you in relation to your thoughts/experiences that day. Not in voices but numbers, signs, license plates etc. I would love to hear how you pull yourself back into "channel normal" as I think that is my problem possibly, as I have been working with meditation, yoga, and other hindu/buddhist techniques which drive you closer to a psychedelic/connected state.

That is some interestin shit Mr Gypsy. Would you maybe elaborate on how one tunes into this "synchronistic frequency" at will like you say you can. I would be interested to see if i could replicate the experience. I have been having a few synchronicities lately, but they seem to come in waves and then die off.

best thing you can do is ground yourself..just image roots growing out of your feet down deep into the earth..and let any excess energy you may have from your dmt experience flow down these roots back into the earth..it really helps you focus your intent on staying grounded..and releasing any of the hyper energy out into the world...lavender helps too..and so does smoking a bit of weed after you come down..really helps connect with your body..

another thing you can do is go for a walk...or a run..work out..anything physical...eat some food...

SWIM used to get deja-vu every now and then as a kid, as most kids do. When he grew old and life lost its magic, the deja-vu disappeared. However, once he had discovered DMT, the magic came back into his life, and so did the deja-vu. He is again getting it every couple of weeks or so, as he did as a child, and he sees it at worst as a side-effect of his improved (no-longer-depressed) brainstate, and at best as moments of 'revelation'.

Some people believe that deja-vu is a moment of 'dharma'.
There are only scientific theories so far as I know rather than the phemomena having been explained by science. One is that your brain accidentally receives information from one sense a fraction before the other sense (eye/ear), so you feel as if it's happened before). A dull explanation but it could be true!
But sometimes I wonder if it's a realisation of 'infinite recurrence'.

You say you're sober... do you mean you're not smoking spice either? How long has the deja vu been happening (i.e. since your last spice session)? How often does it happen on average?

Ive been having deja vu since I was a kid. Not alot mabey a few times a year but its very profound when it happens, almost like reviewing a dream. Once I notice it I can sense what is about to happen and be said too. I already took into account that people tend to have trends and do the same things alot but this is different.
Ive never noticed it change with any kind of psyches.
Ive never looked much into it either though. Probally cause it doesnt happen to me that much.

quote=SyZyGyPSy]Oh yeah. Absolutely. Entheogens have completely rewired Swim's sense of time, dmt in particular. He pretty much ALWAYS gets the most massive de ja vu when he injests dmt, but he gets de ja vu and similar phenomenae quite frequently even when "sober" whatever that means, and feels this is due to his having learned to "tune in" to a different frequency or mode of perception, as it were. He can even control it to some extent.
This also includes synchronicities. Sure as BM points out there is a statistical probability that one will experience coincidence from time to time. Swim noticed what could be considered an average frequency of coincidences for about the first twenty or so years of his life (yes I realize coincidence is not the same thing as de ja vu but they seem to be related somehow). Then he had a series of mystical experiences sparked in part by entheogens where synchronicities were happening off the charts. WAY too often to just chalk it up to randomness. It almost drove him insane, the feeling that the universe was somehow intelligent or that someone or something was manipulating events in a way that made them line up with his thoughts or vice versa. Since then he has learned how to control it to some extent. He can now intentionally enter into a mindframe that is somewhat tapped into this realm, and when he does so synchronicities and other strange phenomenae start happening with frequency far beyond chance. Then he can drop back out into "channel normal" and make them pretty much stop (which he has to do from time to time in order to maintain his sanity). Yes entheogens help with this but are not necessary. It's like once you learn to open the gateway you don't need them.
Tim Leary's 8 circuit model gives one paradigm for this sort of thing. The fourth circuit is responsible for percieving the forth dimension, time, as we commonly understand it in our society. Without going into detail, circuits 5-8 recapitulate circuits 1-4 but on a higher, more conscious level. So circuit 8 would be responsible for hyperchronal perception, if you will... and DMT is the most potent 8th circuit agonist Swim is aware of.
It's kinda like if you went thru life with your eyes closed the entire time, then took a "drug" that made you open them... and then once you learned how to do it, you could open or close them at will.
BTW a related anectode: Swim once watched the Xfiles movie at the theater whilst on mushrooms and had de ja vu the entire time, throughout the whole movie he swore he had seen it before, and knew stuff that was gonna happen, etc., yet there was obviously no way he could have seen it before because it had just been released, but it really felt like watching a movie you have seen before.
For it to happen occasionally can be chalked up to coincidence or random neural "glitches." For it to happen for two hours straight is a different story. And then when he had the incident he referred to earlier, coincidences were happening every day, several times a day, for several months.
During this time one of the many coincidences Swim had was to learn of others who had had such experiences. One of these was author Phillip K. Dick, who referred to his period of crazy shit happening all the time as 2-3-74 because it happened during feb and mar of 1974. Check it out if you're interested. This was also when he learned of Terrence McKenna, who has reported similar synchronistic phenomenae. I could go on...[/quote]

I feel you bro. For several months last year i, to, felt as if somehow something alligned my thoughts say with whatever convo was about to arise, from nowhere. It was crazy, drove me crazy, but i realized it could be a sick thing..it could make sense to me theres a possibility of controlling this 'state' of prempted understanding. It would bring on an eerie feeling similar to Deja Vu but completely different, ha, almost aggitated, like 'hey, im about to say this, dont steal it from me' lol. Seriously, random thoughts popping into ur head and without hesitation the next thing your senses pick up is what you were exaclty thinking? Lol. the synchronicities subsided after the summer, yet as throughout my entire adulthood i still picked up on them with a general occurance. I still have yet to even mention Deja vu tho...

This past weekend, a friend of a friend acquired 15 mgs of 2c-e from downtown. He said the trip was amazing, good to see designer drugs arent suffering in quality from Federal Analog Acts and such..
The trip onset came as expected, felt a little better and in more control than from cid, also expected from its reported mescaline-like qualities. Anyway on this dude's car ride back from this giant park, he was staring at the pressured/compressed light straying to the side of the rode, and a steep cliff reflected a double image(2nd fainter) of a friendly feline..and it said to him through his own self-generated thoughts, "Come explore." The cat shaped and morphed into all kinds of cats, including thousands of them running through the forest, and at the end this huge lion grew and began to roar as his view zoomed in over its head, finally coming in on the snout for the cats teeth to be what he was looking at...shit, he took a double-over-mind-fck with that one....in all the visuals were intense. But for the relevance of his trip..throughout SWIMs trip he had felt as if he was "experiencing the possibilities of time" in a sense. Its very hard for me to repeat this into words(because i am a fan of ESP.. so much more reliable these days) but his mind would tune into and out of reality into the trip world and at his peaks away from what was going on he'd stumble across a paradox - mostly relating with time and other yit - but as he kept thinkin he could litterally see/feel his thoughts narrowing to a point, again and again, and at this point a song would play a lyric or someone would speak relating very closely with his developed thought. He also had spoken of the cat's eye..lol as that is where our visuals derive from, and if you happen to look between the lines of ur visuals you could descover it..now remember this represented everything, time itself in essence. And on the opposite sides of a paradox or of just an occurance time is inverted upon itself, sounds weird, but like there is a pre-conceived(knowledgeable) notion and after there is the meaning to what has happened, like time itself is a paradox and is full of them, perpetuating time in itself(you cannot completely control time without the two of them even before the event). It was one of those things you just hav to feel+understand yourself but really solved so many of my problems--and this was right in front of me like everything happening prior to my peak was there for my downturn to be just as carefree and setup-- just by letting me know that we, consciously, have the ability to sway time, to the right or left, but are always drawn towards the center(infintile possibilities) that drag us on towards an ineveitable ending..the same "I KNOW nothing matters" feeling but this time i understood the paradox behind it which made it possible(lol) and which also dooms its existence.

I'd also like to mention this psychadelics ability as a tool for musical apt ppl - like you can freaking hear the music talking to u and you know what words fit best with each soundings. SWIM would be thinkin, you know, and he'd say a sentence in his head and would realize it went perfectly went along with the chorus, better than the chorus cuz he heard the music, and it made complete sense and sentence!
Thanks for takin yo time n readin this. Hopefully someone has had a similiar experience.