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#161 Posted : 2/3/2013 5:32:41 PM
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Pour in some hot naptha 15ml/ gm and swirl around, pour into a wide dish , freeze precip, pour off excess solvent and dry! Anyone know how to make sure there are no nasties in the dark red goo? Afraid of lye!! What can be done to make sure dark red goo is safe ???
 

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#162 Posted : 2/3/2013 5:35:07 PM

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Pour in some hot naptha 15ml/ gm and swirl around, pour into a wide dish , freeze precip, pour off excess solvent and dry! Anyone know how to make sure there are no nasties in the dark red goo? Afraid of lye!! What can be done to make sure dark red goo is safe ???


If you were careful to not get any of the base solution into your naphtha, there shouldn't be any lye in you end result.
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#163 Posted : 2/3/2013 6:01:57 PM
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I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?

Swin, how much naptha did you use ? 400 or 600ml. Or did you scale it down. does anyone think using 600 milliliterswould make it very hard to yield any things at all?using 600 milliliters, is it expected to have very little yielding pulls?under .1 grams each pull? is that why this was changed to 400 instead?
 
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#164 Posted : 2/3/2013 6:05:14 PM

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I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?


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3- There are no remains of the mimosa soup that carried over when separating the pulls - While NaOH does NOT vaporize at the temperatures reached by the lighter, it could come through as unvaporized particles suspended in the smoke. Also, the mimosa soup is not only NaOH but also plant material that will create very harsh smoke. If there is any black spots that may be from mimosa soup or you are unsure, better wash your solvent before evap/freeze precip, with dilute sodium carbonate solution, or recrystalize your crystals after evap/freeze.
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#165 Posted : 2/3/2013 6:43:03 PM

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Question: Would it be a good idea to keep the container warm in steps 2-3 (via hot water bath or space heater) or will it stay warm enough on it's own?

The reason I ask is that it seems warm naphtha pulls the most DMT out of the lye solution and the DMT crashes out of the naphtha as it cools. Or am I wrong?
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#166 Posted : 2/3/2013 11:37:17 PM
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Seems like the 6-10 shakes should be done relatively quickly. Quick enough that its still warm after the last shake separates. I might suggest a crockpot water bath during shaking the shakes.
 
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#167 Posted : 2/4/2013 12:40:20 AM

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My yields thus far are 4.5 grams, reduced to 2000 ml and poured into seperate jars, 85 grams of naoh each, with 150 ml of naphtha each.

Out of how much ACRB? 500 grams?
 
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#168 Posted : 2/4/2013 1:46:22 AM

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Seems like the 6-10 shakes should be done relatively quickly. Quick enough that its still warm after the last shake separates. I might suggest a crockpot water bath during shaking the shakes.


That's what concerned me. Say, for example, one separation takes 10 minutes. In that case, the minimum 6 shakes would take an hour, long enough for the solution to cool significantly, maybe even to room temperature.

Of course, the crock pot water bath sounds like it would make that a non-issue.

It just occurred to me that maybe some people didn't take that into consideration, and didn't get all the DMT out of their lye solution because of it. Not sure how big of a difference it makes, but every little bit counts!
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#169 Posted : 2/4/2013 5:15:13 AM

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I know. So if its questionable, dont risk it? Is it possible to clean?

Swin, how much naptha did you use ? 400 or 600ml. Or did you scale it down. does anyone think using 600 milliliterswould make it very hard to yield any things at all?using 600 milliliters, is it expected to have very little yielding pulls?under .1 grams each pull? is that why this was changed to 400 instead?

I used about 600ml naphtha, let it evap til i had about 500ml, separated in to two jars and freeze precipitated. used about 200g lye.
 
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#170 Posted : 2/5/2013 2:47:37 AM
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"01. I used 500 grams that I froze and thawed twice then boiled in 2000ml of H20 with 100ml of white vinegar I let this boil for 1 and 1/2 hours then transfered the liquid to another pot and started reducing it. Do this at least 4 times adding fresh vinegar each time. I did it 5 and found that the 5th boil was lighter in color. Anyway as your cooking fresh washes start reducing prior boils in a second pot."

I'm not sure what you mean by reducing the prior boils in the second pot. So you boil 500g of bark in 2000 ml of water and 100 ml vinegar for 1 1/2 hr. then you pore the liquid in another pot and 'reduce it'. Then you repeat this step five times, poring the liquid from each of the boils in this second pot until 1500ml is reached. Can you explain what you mean by reducing the liquid in the second pot until 1500ml is reached? After one and a half hour of boiling, about how much is drained into the second pot? Please clarify step one. Thanks.
 
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#171 Posted : 2/7/2013 5:33:11 AM
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SWIM tried but files (in a way) of making DMT from ACRB, SWIM thinks it might have been a product issue i.e getting the trunk bark instead of root bark. can someone tell me where to find a reliable source so I can inform SWIM, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance from SWIM
 
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#172 Posted : 2/7/2013 6:02:17 AM

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SWIM tried but files (in a way) of making DMT from ACRB, SWIM thinks it might have been a product issue i.e getting the trunk bark instead of root bark. can someone tell me where to find a reliable source so I can inform SWIM, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance from SWIM

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#173 Posted : 2/9/2013 9:59:11 PM
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Okay so im about attempt my first extraction. And the ACRB is due here any day. i plan on following this tek to a T, and would just like to get a few things clarified by anyone who has had success. Q1-should i powder my shredded bark? Q2-Do i filter out excess bark when i transfer it from pot to jar? Q3- should crystal lye be used to basify. Q4- 600 or 400 ml of naptha and do i add naptha 6-10 times or just once and then shake and seperate 6-10? I understand these are very basic questions and do appreciate your patience.
 
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#174 Posted : 2/11/2013 6:38:33 PM
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Hey guys quick question. Do you grind the bark first or just let boil as whole?
 
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#175 Posted : 2/11/2013 6:58:18 PM

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I just cut it into small pieces with pruning shears before the freeze/thaw. Works great.
 
#176 Posted : 2/12/2013 1:16:35 AM
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Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi
 
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#177 Posted : 2/12/2013 2:48:18 AM
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First step says transfer the boil to a second pot and reduce after adding vin.. what hasppns ot the first pot.. add more water and keep sludge in there or is sludge and all transferred to second pot ;p Thanks PH should be keep 3-4 correct?
 
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#178 Posted : 2/12/2013 6:16:16 AM

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Tattvamasi wrote:
Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi

I have been using 40mg and it seems more powerful to me than 40mg of mimosa extract. It's very hard to describe but i like it better for sure. It definitely adds it's own flavor. It's beautiful. I have broken through every time on 40mg.
 
#179 Posted : 2/12/2013 11:10:59 AM
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Swinjin wrote:
Tattvamasi wrote:
Quick question to those that have extracted using this tek (or any A/B), what are the dosage ranges that you guys are using and how similar are the experiences compared to the extract from mhrb? Is the NMT a huge complementary to the spice? Does it over power the spice or muddle it up?

Just wondering since I have always extracted from mimosa and have yet to buy ACRB, but will be acquiring some ACRB very soon.

Tat Tvam Asi

I have been using 40mg and it seems more powerful to me than 40mg of mimosa extract. It's very hard to describe but i like it better for sure. It definitely adds it's own flavor. It's beautiful. I have broken through every time on 40mg.


Thanks Thumbs up I'll be doing an A/B very soon with this tek, with the addition of adding said amount of salt to the base mix. (kudos to CTM and cyb)
 
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#180 Posted : 2/14/2013 3:38:04 PM
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Finished first pull ever last night, go t orange goo at room temp.freeze precipitating right now. ready and eager for my first experience i let it dry out for a few hours and wiped up maybe a quarter of my pull. Let me just say when i came out it felt like i had woke up for the first in my life. but im afraid it will be too intense for a friend of mine who has little experience in psychoactives. So, how can i adequately dose this goo. Also it had a strong meth taste, can anyone confirm thats the harsh taste, or do i have an issue with my spice. Greatly appreciate any replies. Thanks all.
 
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