Hi guys, I'm new here. Just figured I would share an experience.

The other day I tried ayahuasca for the first time at a friends house. After finishing the rather vile tasting liquid, I got the idea to play some Grateful Dead tunes (I'm quite a fan...). I popped some ear phones in and got my Pandora Radio account going on my phone while waiting for the trip to come on. The lights were all out by now. After what was probably about a half hour of sitting there the hallucinations began.

I could not see any visuals with my eyes open, but upon closing them I could see sort of like neon-tiedye geometric shapes. This was all I had for about half an hour. So over an hour into it now I found it very hard to lift my head, and opening my eyes I had trouble remembering the orientation of the dark room. Just as a side note, throughout the whole trip I found I could open my eyes and "end" the trip in a sense.

But anyways at one point the one of the many live recordings of the classic Dead song Dark Star came on the radio. During the tranquil Jerry-isms in beginning, him noodling around and keeping his phrasing kind of light and euphoric, I felt this sort of ineffable feeling shoot through my whole body, most noticeably I felt it weigh down my arms. I saw a Sting interview where he described an "intelligence" rushing through his body while on Aya, and this is the best I can do to describe it. After this ended, an image manifested with my eyes closed, of these leaves floating on like a neon, light light blue lake, with mist rising everywhere. This was the most memorable portion of the trip. I had no sense of time but dark star was still playing, and at some point Jerry did this really quiet walk up, into a loud, emotional, note (you'll hear him do it all the time). But when he hit that dynamic ending note the image of the leafs on the river, or lake, or whatever it was, faded, and all of a sudden this giant convoluted prism of bright white lines appeared, it stayed there and move around a bit and then faded and that was essentially the end of the tripping or all I remember.

I also noticed the next day that my weed high was...different. I can't really explain how, but it was way different than before the Ayahuasca experience, and has stayed that way.

This experience gave me a new sort of appreciation for the Dead and an idea of what all of their 60s era followers were raving about. Aya was my first hallucinogen, but I am eager to try more and continue to experiment with how sounds impact the experiences. Has anyone else experienced an audio-visual correlation of some sort? And any specifically with the Dead? I know traditionally a shaman usually hums or plays music, and have heard Terence McKenna talk about there being a connection.

Also, I hear people talk about "breaking through". Was this a break through? I never felt like there was a change in consciousness and like I said earlier I could "end" visions by opening my eyes.

I look forward to being a part of this community. Thank you.

For the longest time I didn't really think too much of the Dead. All I really knew was the stuff that got radio airplay like studio versions of Friend of the Devil or Uncle Sams Band. I was more into stuff like Yes and Pink Floyd and such. Then while tripping strong on acid one night in the dorms my friend put on Dark Star from Live Dead.

20 minutes later I was a Deadhead.

Visuals and audio are so closely linked on DMT in my experiences that it's frustrating to even start to talk about because of how it underlies the whole experience on a number of levels. The DMT experience (at least for me) is very much an energetic phenomenon based on the concept of frequency (which light and sound of course share).

There have been times where I have become the music I was listening to. Where my entire body and the visuals simply are the music.

I've also had a couple experiences where I've heard full-blown music produced from hyperspace which I describe in my report The DMT Harp and God's Lobby

It often seems to me that entities and hyperspace's movements are based on frequency signals. sometimes they can be felt (as buzzing), sometimes they can be heard (as pitches) and of course the movement itself is visualized. Sometimes it's so subtle that it can go by unnoticed, but this is how things seem to work for me. Consequently by playing external music or through perceving external sounds, that music (for example) can override the natural vibrational signals employed by hyperspace, and thus the motion and course of events can be changed.

Thanks for the comments guys. Seems to be some very intelligent and experienced members on here; I'm learning a lot reading through some of the threads. Glad I found this place.

I've had trips that strongly resemble that of yours. In the one you describe in the quote, I've had that experience nearly word for word. However, during a breakthrough experience I would step into that office and see a figure sitting down in a black office chair - staring oddly out the window. ( As if to infer sense of idle curiosity.)

If I'd had enough, it would look at me - and instantly I would KNOW.

If I didn't have enough, reality would suck me back.

And everything would seem normal again...

Hello Suburban tea and welcome

I believe that the Grateful Dead were doing something very special out there on the road back in their day that went beyond just making music and touring non-stop.

To me they stand as the rugged pioneers of DMT and LSD inspired live Music.

I highly recommend the "Road Trips" box set, it contains some really mind blowing material...

I have had some of the most amazing experiences listening to live grateful dead while under the influence of DMT. Some of the live improvisational magic of the dead is pretty much like a musical recreation of hyperspace IMO.

I was never a big Floyd guy though I always dug Gilmour's guitar work. I often listen to Yes on cannabis, though.




Thanks for the welcome. I would agree about the Dead, even their lyricist was a major tripper and I often find their lyrics so thought inspiring while on cannabis. Somewhere there is a correspondence between Robert Hunter (the lyricist) and Terence McKenna entirely on the subject of DMT. If anyone's interested I'll post a link.

Like I said in my OP I'm going to experiment more the with hallucinogens and I definitely now will focus on how sounds affect them more. Thanks for the box set recommendation; I'll check it out.

i am.

http://www.levity.com/orfeo/index.part1.html

Managed to find it. I'm sure several will find it as interesting as I did. I was planning on rereading it soon anyways.

This was a great read! A highlight for me follows, but first, some context. Earlier in the correspondence, Robert Hunter discusses how he no longer partakes because his last few experiences seemed to imply that he was no longer welcome.

I am a huge fan of The Dead as well! However, the thought never occurred to me to play them as background music of a blastoff session. I usually listen to ambient electronic or sit in silence. I will have to try this tonight. I read an interesting thread on here a while back on how Jerry Garcia came up with the name of the band after a DMT trip. I have linked the post the below.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=13874

I must admit, Dark Star has left me several times with my jaw hanging open wondering what just happened. A good cover was done at my first Dark Star Orchestra show and it was magical. Although I love all of the Dead's music I consider that one of the trippiest songs and can't quite understand why it sounds so amazing. Perhaps what Phil Lesh said is true, "Dark Star is always playing somewhere, we just tap into it."

I personally like the classic "Live Dead" version as well as the shorter "Nightfall of Diamonds" version. A '69 Fillmore rendition also tops the list.

I frequently, in fact almost always, listen to full shows throughout the course of my trip. I like most stuff prior to 1979. There tons of great work after that but '77 and '72 really get me going (check out 5/8/77 "the best show". For whatever reason their music just resonates with me and fills me with joy. Sober or not, just far more intensely when not. I am sure it has a bit to do with their start in the Acid Tests and claims of telepathy. That plus the combination of dozens of cultures of music and spontaneous soloing makes for a great experience.

If you are specifically into Garcia's guitar work and singing i would check out Jerry Garcia Band. There is a great collection of live shows on CD or MP3. I also love Garcia and Grisman bust far less psychedelic.

I rarely enter hyperspace with musical accompaniment, but when i do, one of the tunes that seemed tailor made is a 20 some odd minute dark star from a mystery show, sounds like 72 to me. Perfection!

Yeah, i guess it's pretty well known at this point that the Dead was just a cover for a acid distribution juggernaut, and the music they came up with to disguise that was pretty cool. Never got to see them play dark star live though...