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Which one is more potent and better to use for an Aya brew using Syrian Rue Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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they are two entirley different things. Chaliponga is a just very different from more pure DMT sources. Chaliponga is more potent and presents a more difficult experience than other DMT sources I have worked with. Long live the unwoke.
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For a first time brew and experience, Chacruna would be more advisable then? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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I prefer chacruna for various reasons but have troubles with the inconsistency of dried mail ordered chacruna. Chaliponga tended to be more consistent in potency but is a different experience for me. I am not gonna lie, shits gonna get weird!Troubles Breaking Through? Click here. The Art of Changa. making the perfect blend.
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What exactly is so different about the experiences that the two bring about? Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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In my experience, Chaliponga has a dark (but not sinister) and mysterious side. Chali will mess with you a little but rewards you well. I have only had one experience with chacruna and it was more a maternal and streamlined experience all around. The purge from chali is rough to get through IME but oh man is it worth it in the end.
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Much appreciated information.
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So it sounds like I shall have to go with the Chacruna for the easier ride. Out of curiosity, is the smoked experience different when using spice from these two plants? Or is there only a noticable difference when consuming it for Aya Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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Gone-and-Back wrote:is the smoked experience different when using spice from these two plants? Or is there only a noticable difference when consuming it for Aya it MIGHT be possible if you do a full-spectrum extract, but generally these things are reported only with aya (though tbh idk for sure as i have only extracted mimosa) My wind instrument is the bong
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I have a friend who was going to do an extraction soon on I think Chali, whenever he finds the time to do it. I can urge him to do a full spectrum extract on a small portion of it, and do the same with some Chacruna if there is still some lying around here... We can then see how the two compare when smoked. Everything published by Gone-and-Back are the mad rantings and ravings of a mind who yearns to be free and thinks he knows what he is talking about. However, these are just delusions made to feel that freedom, because that freedom will never come. Any experiments done are purely figments of the imagination, and are falsified to the highest degree. Nothing should be taken seriously from a crazy mans mind.
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I think this nice thread is pertinent right about now! I have had one chacruna brew, but it was pretty weak. Is there any credibility to the rumors that hawaiian chacruna is stronger? I have 50 grams of that, and another 50 grams of chaliponga. The brew I have made up (from my first try) is peruvian chacruna. Is chaliponga any more of a mindfuck than, say, a good dose of mushroom shenanigans? I have a lot of experience with that brand of craziness. This thread has actually got me excited for some chaliponga brew. I think I'm feeling a strange trip in my near future. Be an adult only when necessary.
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One has to sign in, but this thread @ TheNook is great for distinguishing viridis - alba/carthagenesis. In post #13 of that thread is a nice set of comparison pictures.
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