Is it me or does even just thinking about going into hyperspace drive you to crave the spice? I found myself the other day reminiscing over my recent trip and caught myself in a pleasant place, smiling and recalling the feelings, then thinking about when the next time would be, it got me a bit overexcited lol, it may sound silly but I felt like a little kid when he gets his icecream!

We are Pavlov's Dog!

It's a wonderful thing. Makes me wonder why we are so drawn back to it.

Original home-space?
Release of dopamine fueling the want for another experience that is similar?
Profound insights, questions, and answers?
The pure experience of it all?

I can only wonder.

DMT <3

Clyde knows when he's on a pharmahuasca trip, he never wants to come back dow, he vaped damn near a gram just to keep it goin this last week, like you said MOAR!!!

Honestly, I have never done DMT, so maybe it's different. Although I haven't done DMT, I have done Achuma. I can say that when I am on the experience, I can't wait for it to end. The day after is the beautiful part. It's a painful ride for me. But the insight and magic that comes along with the pain is just worth it..

Best I could do to elaborate on this subject.

Mmm yes, a lot of times when ol'clyde is journeying, he finds it too much sometimes, and wants nothing more then for it to end. It's the reflection period on the come down that is the best part of those trips. Every trip is beautiful, even the most terrifying. To get to the stairway to heaven, you must trek through the center of hell

No it does not. Craving spice? are we talking about DMT? I have never craved it.

interesting.

Thinking about it causes me to feel very humble, it causes me to respect it.

IH

Thinking about spice scares the shit out of me which is weird as have never had a bad trip on dmt, so definitely don't crave it. but keep going back tho.

spot on. It gives me sweaty fingertips just thinking about it.

To the OP

That's called the "honeymoon phase". Everyone goes through it. Some take longer to get out of it, while others it's a very short while. Then the day comes where you have "THEE" experience that circumvents your lusting appeal, and therefore your approach changes, humbly realizing that you might have bitten off more than you could chew. Your multiple experiences a week dwindle to once a week, and thereforth to once a month to even possibly once every several months, depending on the severity of what you had experienced.

Everyone reaches it at different points. In due time... in due time.


Tat Tvam Asi

Astro84: you remind me my own "honeymoon phase" as Tattvamasi nicely called it. It was at this point when I was thinking something like "All right. Now I more or less ´know´ DMT, i.e. I know what to expect, I know the effects etc."



(How wrong and daring was I at that point )

I keep getting drawn back only to be teased and left disappointed. My own doing I'm sure. How did they say it in the movie Contact.."Baby steps"

Just curious. If you knew then what you know now, would you do something differently? For example, would you be more cautious, trying to keep the doses low to remain in honeymoon mode longer?

Excuse me Michal_R for jumping in, as I felt compelled to give my answer.

It honestly doesn't matter if you cut your dosages lower and keep them there. You can smoke 35mg one time and get a mediocre experience, then the next time smoking, say20mg and your blown out of your seat. What im saying is dosage matters, but not as much as we think it does. Several factors aside from dosage can sometimes line up "too" perfectly (everyones different), such as mind state, diet, previous psychedelic consumption, environmental factors, etc. And when those factors line up, it won't matter all that much whether your dose is huge or low, as i've found out, you will be completely gone no matter what.

And asking Michal "If you would have known what you know now"....well....it usually doesn't work like that powerup. No ones going to know the craziness of the dmt experience 'before' having gone through the initial phase of over indulgence followed by the experiences that set them anew. Thats the whole point. As one vetted member here said "DMT waits til your completely comfortable/complacent, then it drawns you in. Only to be followed by it showing you some of it's true colors". It's all about learning. Such is life itself brotha. If you already knew the mysteries of life, then how fun would it be for you on this journey?

Tat Tvam Asi

Powerup: Thanks for the question
Tattvamasi: Thanks for the answer (I wouldn´t have been able to form it better)



What would I do differently? Probably nothing. "That experience" would have come anyways, sooner or later, IMO. It was an experience that left me trembling speechless before the Mysterium tremendum, teaching me by experience not to take DMT lightly ever again, and that I know absolutely nothing about it...

During my "honeymoon phase", I was quite eager to talk about it with my best friends, thinking that they might also find it as an amazing experience etc. After the experience I described above, I quickly changed my mind. Since then I tend not to talk about it too much, being affraid that they wouldn´t understand, fearing that by not being understood I could eventually cause some serious trouble to those who wouldn´t take DMT seriously enough...

I actually like low doses of spice. I usually have more beautiful experiences with a low dose. Higher doses are really reserved for those willing to have their brains shattered to wake up in a new reality completely disconnected from their consciousness in an alien realm. It sounds like semantics. That is what people do not get. If you really want to have the full voyage you will arrive in a new reality and it feels real and you have no idea you ever took anything. You do not know who you are, where you are or what you are. It is absolutely mind blowing, mind shattering and extraordinary. Nothing to mess with. I appreciate that people are saying as much.

Spice can be abused... I actually love abusing small doses. Drinking, partying, spicing. When it comes time for the real experience... well, it is an absolutely different experience which requires absolute respect. Though, in my humbled opinion the Nexus gives it a little too much respect. When is the right time to fully launch? It is up to you. The intergalactic party line is always open, it isn't always nice but they are always willing to play with you, their games can be challenging. To get there though one must be willing to be completely destroyed in many ways, raped, psychically manipulated. And then you arrive. Then you come back knowing nothing. Recently, I saw how traumatic coming down could be. With small doses you sort of come out of it like a dream... on large doses you can come out of it spinning more out of control than the controlled come up. I recommend small doses for people until they feel comfortable enough to have their reality completely replaced by a new alien realm.

Soo true..
I can't high dose anymore. I can"t handle dmt unless I'm on something else too, she scares me something fierce. I couldn't imagine trying to do it at a concert or something. If you could gradually get to that level over atleast 15 min.; but it's more like being shot out of a cannon.

Yes, I could never recommend taking spice in public, whatsoever. I cannot even fathom why anyone would try to do it or think they could get away with it. Those dudes would not be happy about it and you are going to be dealing with it.

Wow i forgot about this post for a week then i come back to a good discussion lol!

it's good to hear peoples different opinions on the subject, what I was thinking about when i said "Craving the spice" i dont mean to crave the spice as in addiction, it's more like Im so desiring to go back to that place that I want more of that stuff.

out of all times i've broken through, well at least what i think is breaking through...there will probably an even more intense experience than those times which i'm definitely prepared for.

the only place i would ever do spice with is at home or at a close mate's, that i know i can relax with

DMT while it's a wonderful experience, it scares me!

Sometimes it feels like the alien intelligence that has attached itself
To me gets aroused whenever I contimplate using Dmt . There's something
About it that feels outside the self at times . Weird and insane .
I can attest to the honeymoon phase . Frequency of use has definetly tapered
Over time for me.