SWIM hasn't taken any spice in about 2-3 weeks. He was just planning to today, but the slight pain in his tooth has come back. He has an appointment so that's not an issue.

SWIM has numbing stuff and aleve, but it seems the pain comes back. SWIM is in good spirits, things are going well. Just has this pain. He wants to know if it's a bad time when there's a little pain to go on a spice expedition. He planned to use THH to slow it down as well.

He has taken a dozen or so spice trips, a few with THH in the past. HOwever now, the batteries in his scale had run down so he has no way of measuring dose either. He could eyeball it from the many times he has, but usually likes to be exact.

If he waits till seeing the dentist, he will have some surgical operation to fix the tooth, and the pain will probably go on for a month after that. So some pain is going to be around for probably the next month and a half. Does SWIM need to wait until all pain is gone to go with spice? Emotionally, he is doing well.

I think swim should swim in the land of dmt. I dont think once your in the realm your pain will be an issue, and if it is we'll learn something new about dmt. a minor pain can cause pain in the realm. You wont know till you try.

so how'd it go? did the pain affect anything?

I'm gonna go with wait until after you tooth gets fixed.

Both my wife and my good friend have spiced up with a bad tooth. My wife shakes her head at me...so I guess that's a "never again moment".

My friend had an abcess and he said he felt like he was dying...and had this weird thing where he would only get visuals on the side the abcess was NOT on.

Pain can and will alter the experience.

i would not recomend spicing while in pain. Of course everyone is different, but i have personally
had a wierd exp with pain in my jaw. Once I beamed up, I became infinitely focused on the exact nanospot of
my pain. It wasn't scary or horrible but it was very powerful. I could not get past it. I felt like "they" were
telling me to tend to myself and go get healed. my 2 cents

yeah the spice wants u to put yourself first - sort out the tooth then go back
there is no rush - there is always tomorrow.

I'm in pain for 7 months now and still the cause hasn't been found. I thought it to be asthma, then asthma went away and I had my guts checked and my heart. It happened shortly after tasting the spice for the first time and OI've wanted to explore it more so badly but I thought to myself that it's propably not a good Idea to really dive into it with pain.

But it sure is troublesome to wait at the gates for so long.