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Slight bashing on YouTube towards Nexus Options
 
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#61 Posted : 1/4/2013 1:46:11 AM

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Hehe, I had no issue with you putting forward your viewpoint, I just hold a slightly different one, it hadn't really crossed my mind that it may be an attack! I hope what I said wasn't taking as an attack on your ideas either, we all have relevant points of view and there is nothing wrong with us coming to different conclusions. We will get nowhere if nobody ever puts forward differing views for us to think about, agreeing or not is not relevant.
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#62 Posted : 1/4/2013 7:30:40 AM

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There are always people that are arrogant enough to think they are an expert after being involved in something 3-4 times. This is a personality flaw I've witnessed many many times. Be calm. It will pass. These people typically throw 110% at something for a brief period. At some point to actually be good at something you need to really dig deep and work hard. You need to sacrifice other things to narrow your focus and really hone in on that ONE thing. That is typically where this type of person bails out to become an expert at something else.
In the case of dmt, or psychedelics in general, the more you get into it, the less you know simply because of how much greater the scope of the project becomes. It counteracts this form of "expert" behavior on every level. I prefer to revel in my ignorance by asking the hard questions... this is far better than that which is easily obtained.

Hear Hear! Exactly my feelings as well. I've learned to control my anger over the years, but these "know-it-alls" still manage to tick me off from time to time. People who proclaim themselves an expert after barely scratching the surface of a topic.

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#63 Posted : 2/5/2013 11:00:43 AM
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Dear god. I actually know the guy who supplied this Megalomaniac calling himself "king" with that package of NN.
I told him so many times not to seek a goldmine in NN, but he just wouldn't listen.

I WILL link him to this topic so he can see the further damage he has caused to DMT's image.
Actually there's 3 guys, 2 of which I know well, who supplied this batch to this idiot.
They showed me this youtube video before, with pride, saying it was their product.
I facepalmed and warned them against capitalising on DMT explicitly. Damn fools.


Capitalising on a spiritual treasure, hyping it on Youtube...Saying it is to promote freedom. Sounds extremely Ignoble to me. Extremely naive to the consequences of their actions. Like children. Just want to feel big, like some great shamanic leader. But not
interrested in being a real shaman, just in being a leader instead.

These Egomaniacs should back off. Their approach to claiming freedom is just further endangering freedom. For all of us. So either we may convince them to get their heads out of their asses, grow up & treat DMT with the sanctity & dignity it deserves, or they will just
get imprisoned 1 by 1, devastating DMT's image along the way.

People like these (The selfproclaimed "King" & those who supplied him) say they are about promoting freedom & spreading awareness but that is really a lie. A cover-up for their actual intentions, which are vile, selfish, shallow & originate from their Ego's deepest depths. People like the "King" are really just after a Guru-status. They seek igmiration, even worship of insecure people. To gain power over these people and build a little cult.
The rest is history. We all know what happens from that point on.

As for the people who supplied the "King", they also shroud themselves in lies about spreading awareness, helping mankind evolve spiritually & all things noble.
While what these people are REALLY doing is promoting overharvesting Mimosa populations to death, making DMT even more notorious & restricted & giving mentally instable people access to DMT, potentially messing them up really bad. Why? Just to make a FUCKload of money.

It's a sickening symbiosis between Megalomaniac manipulators who seek to attain Guru-ism
& Insationably greedy Capitalists who see a huge market of insationable consumers.




For now I will show this topic to the 3 people who supplied the selfproclaimed "King",
hoping all these negative developments around DMT & the part they clearly played in that,
will wake them up & stop abusing DMT as though it were a goldmine.

We need to wake these people up and get them on our side. We need to make them realise how their actions are really hurting the entheogenic cause & that there are beter, more clever ways of going about the liberation of mankind. (& in specific the freedom of choosing what drug to/not to put into your body)

For now this may be our only hope. If anyone disagrees I would love to hear it.
 
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#64 Posted : 2/5/2013 6:44:52 PM

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I would really like to see an elected member represent the nexus on his show.
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#65 Posted : 2/5/2013 7:52:36 PM
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AfroHorror wrote:
I would really like to see an elected member represent the nexus on his show.



If you feed this troll, how many more will pop up for their own time in the spotlight?

"Did you hear the nexus made a statement on joeschmoe's youtube channel??? lets make our own outrageous video so that they'll come on our show, too!"




Also, I don't think the nexus will ever need to make a youtube channel nor a single video. Just like we dont need a twitter or a facebook. Just because the medium is there I do not think it automatically becomes a necessity to indulge.
 
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#66 Posted : 2/5/2013 8:20:14 PM

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...Adam Kokesh is not a troll...
Maybe you should watch a few of his videos...
it would actually spotlight the nexus.
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Red Eclipse
#67 Posted : 2/5/2013 8:40:24 PM
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AfroHorror wrote:
...Adam Kokesh is not a troll...
Maybe you should watch a few of his videos...
it would actually spotlight the nexus.



All I had to watch was the video where "The Man" recieves his SR package, and treats the fact that schedule 1 drugs sent via postal service is no big deal. He may not be a troll, but that simple video discredits everything he does (for me).



Anyone seeking real fact-based knowledge about dmt can find the nexus under a myriad of Google search strings, why would this youtube channel spotlighting the nexus be a good thing?
 
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#68 Posted : 2/5/2013 8:49:24 PM

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Uploading videos online of buying DMT/smoking DMT is incredibly irresponsible. Period.

Much of Kokesh's ethos appears to fly in the face of how we do things here at the Nexus.

The Nexus doesn't need a spotlight...certainly not on that type of program.

We are active within the networks of the entheogenic community, both above and below ground.

Forget the hype. Forget the spotlight. We're here.
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#69 Posted : 2/5/2013 9:56:52 PM

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Red Eclipse wrote:
He may not be a troll, but that simple video discredits everything he does (for me).

That logic is no good. I could discredit everything because i don't agree with anything. Sounds pretty kool though

Seems like most of these threads turn into pages expressing anger and disgust with very little concern for who it is directed towards.
Sure the nexus doesn't "need" a spotlight, however I don't realize why we cant reach out a little.
This guy is only doing what most people in the U.S. should have the right to do IMO. And what many people in this forum are [most likely] doing in secret. I guess smoking (weed/dmt...) whatever wherever no matter what the circumstances should just be looked at as being irresponsible.

I just saw this guy smoking what he called dmt on my computer screen, Oh and then he talked about what he may have experienced. Sounds like the nexus with video/audio.
I don't want this to feel at all like an attack on anyone's opinion i'm just sharing my thoughts.

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#70 Posted : 2/5/2013 10:51:37 PM

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People nowadays will do anything to stand out. This is what he chose to do.

It is a shame that he is using the DMT and the Nexus to stand out in this crowd... I dont think he'll make a lot of openminded good hearted people Smile

Well, he's using his freedom to express himself and thats ok. I just dont agree with his views Very happy
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#71 Posted : 2/6/2013 2:27:08 AM

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I Agree.
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#72 Posted : 2/6/2013 2:55:26 AM

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The Traveler wrote:
With the DMT-Nexus we try to spread the word about DMT as much as possible and with that comes the promotion of resonsible use for said substance.

When people like Jerry are bashing the DMT-Nexus I'm in a way actaully very happy about it. Since with naming the DMT-Nexus people will hopefully come here, see who we actually are and learn more about DMT and how it can be used in a good and responsible way. So for that: thank you Jerry!

As 'they' say, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Pleased
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