I had an experience recently.. I had consumed a fairly mild but effective dose of aya and decided a few hours in to smoke some acacia spice. It was beautiful! so very beautiful., I made love to a plant i think, with every esence of my being i swirled in ecstatic alignment with it. As i returned i was compelled to smoke more. I took a big hit and held it in and str8 away the sky darkened rather ominecly and the buzz began!! I/it vibrated so furiously that it threatened to burst my ear drums. As the buzzing deepened I went further and further into layers and layers of visuals. They were moving far too rapidly to make any sence of. Soon I was travelling so deep that i became curious as to the where abouts of my body (big mistake). Basically as soon as i thought it i was back in my body but it wasnt my own! I had this wierd feeling in my throat that felt like something being pushed down it. I poked out my tongue to make sure that i wasnt chocking on it and was horrified to see that it was extremely long and reptilian like! I tried to ignore this so again closed my eyes. The feeling in my throat didnt leave me and i 'realised' that there was indeed something being pushed into me. I suddenly had the feeling that something very alien was implanting something in me. I had the destinct feeling that they had seduced me to come deeper so that they could implant a communications device into me! A very bizzare experience and i am finding it difficult to make sence of. So far I have many possible 'explainations' but really they are just possibilities. Has anyone else had similar experiences? How do we know who to trust in hyperspace?

Hi Tribal, That sounded like a very intense experience. I also had entity contact that felt like it might not have had my best interests at heart. I beleive that with dmt you enter into a whole universe or multiverse and that it is absolutely huge. There seem to be both good and bad entities in these realms and I have trouble discerning which is which myself however I feel that with the good beings they are usually tranquil or playful and do not seem to impose on your freewill, they may try to show you or teach you something but don't really ask anything of you. The more dubious beings I beleive either impose their will directly on you with you having no say in the matter or they may be seductive, trying to get you to enter into some space with them. The reptillian beings aswell as they greys are definetly not benevolent in my opinion, I think they see us as lab rats and are manevolent. I think the elves/cherubs and celestial blue haired human looking people are ok and the buddha beings are also good. With dmt sometimes I get a feeling of dread or doom, It's probably the same feeling a deer get's when it senses a tiger, an inate sense that there's something not quite right here. This usually tells me I should be on my guard and not accept everything that comes my way, have my defenses up and be aware (although with dmt that's tricky ) Now my personal theory is the more DMT you smoke or ingest the higher and more profound the realms are that you will break into, Terrence's elf machine's sound like he was breaking into a very high realm and my personal intuition tells me that these beings were good. I think at these high realms there still exist manevolent beings but they are now hard to distinguish between the benevolent ones because they are also beautiful and profound. Also the ones that are angry and stern at you may turn out to be the good ones and the ones that are seductive and appeasing could turn out to be manevolent. I think that studying esotoric ancient texts like gnosticsm, buddhism and others has helped me a little in finding some answers, reading texts is the theory, dmt is the practice.

I know at times this can be the most difficult aspect of this compound but you must keep in mind that it is just a drug revealing a part of you.Some parts much more difficult to deal with then others in my experience the best way to cope with a troublesome experience is to except it.

[bfaa89da14]litrium:[/bfaa89da14] Are there any books/links that you would recommend? I am about to begin reading 'Physics of the soul -[ifaa89da14]the quantum book of living, dying, reincarnation and immortality[/ifaa89da14]' by Amit Goswami

psilocybin: Is that what you beleive? that the dmt experiences are all just a part of ourselves? I dont no what to beleive personally yet. I guess i do enjoy to lend myself to the idea of the devine and access to spiritual realms. But when i do i start feeling like im getting so far away from the 'normal' thinking of our society that i begin to fear for my sanity. Thats why i like to sit on the fence i guess and try to keep at least one foot on the side of science and 'rational' thinking... A work in progress

Hey Tribal, Regarding some good books, Gnostic stuff like the Nag Hammadi Library and the Gnostic Handbook are pretty insightful, also the Tibetan Book of the Dead and even stuff from judaism and christianity all have insightful stuff in them. Actually I checked the links section of this site earlier and the metahistory and sacred texts archive links are both really good references.

ill second what litrium said about the library section of this site... damn good resource right there, commendable work whomever is responsible! And tribaldreamings, i have discussed this experience with you in private, but would extend my recommendations on reading some of the ayahuasca books out there.. Alien contact is deeply ingrained in many ancient cultures, and it is no surprise that where this sacrament is worke with the alien interactions spring forth. just look at pablo amaringo's work for one example of how alien interactions are considered a 'given' in many cultures/societies. And i would say that these experiences are both a manifestation of the micro cosm and macrocosm at the same time. i.e it comes from above and beyond whilst also below an within.

i can relate to this experience very much ... you are not alone in this by a long shot DMT has a it reflects my yin & yang ... i am convinced of this

Good to hear im not alone As time goes on and 2 sessions later i am begining to think that my experience was just a reflection of my fear and also of the things that i had been filling my mind with of late. Re the library section of this site. Where is it? It might be because im tired atm and a lil vague but i cant find it EDIT: I found it

Although in my experience I didn't have much of a say with what the grays did to me (whatever they did to me) they certainly didn't seem malevolent.
I got the impression the work they were doing on me was for my own benefit, or certainly that some good would come of it. I projected love onto them
when I first noticed them, and that seemed to trigger what they did next. If they were negative or lower vibrational entities, I beleive they would have
dissapeared. Love is the light which shines on everything - the greatest and most magnificent feeling in existance. Nothing can stand against love; because
all is love; and love is everything.

Dunno bout that shoe, I mean they didnt ask you permission, they just did it, I said that to a friend and he said well maybe they know what will benefit you. Swim was convinced he had been implanted and a psychic then told him six months later he had indeed been implanted, not only a time he remembers another three times he has no recollection of.

The one swim remembers he was coerced by sexy pixie like things with sex and love, then these other things started doing stuff to him with strange technology and when he got wary of what they were doing the pixies filled him with their positive emotions, so he wouldnt resist. Theres that dmt report in the spirit molecule and the guy goes god is love and the inscets are saying what even here ?? I mean having all these loving good intentions wouldnt mean squat to these things with different agendas that are beyond our perception/imagination.

Oh one of the implants was to track swim when he re-entred hyperspace and one was to hinder swims psychic ailities and the other two would mess up his auric field, according to this psychic. Swim was to ask the earth angels to remove these things and they would, so hopefully they did as it was soo real and couldnt possibly have all been in his head, but hes open minded that hes off his head!