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Hey guys, I tried googling this but didn't come up with any definitive answers. My lye isn't heating up. I bought Red-Devil lye back in Sept. After uaing some that month I stored it in my garage. Today I added 100g to 1500 ml of distilled water and it didn't heat up at all. I also noticed that it clumped up in the container. I'm assuming its not any good?? Thanks I am completely convinced that there is a wealth of information built into us, with miles of intuitive knowledge tucked away in the genetic material of every one of our cells. Something akin to a library containing uncountable reference volumes, but without any obvious route of entry. And, without some means of access, there is no way to even begin to guess at the extent and quality of what is there. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature. - Shulgin
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Is it cold where you were/stored lye? It will clump a little bit, but stir and it will dissolve.
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Hasn't been very cold in these parts. It only clumped once in the water. Speaking of cold, when it clumped it looked just like ice cubes. I'm assuming its no good. It usually gets so hot I'm afraid it's gonna eat through the container. Strange indeed! I am completely convinced that there is a wealth of information built into us, with miles of intuitive knowledge tucked away in the genetic material of every one of our cells. Something akin to a library containing uncountable reference volumes, but without any obvious route of entry. And, without some means of access, there is no way to even begin to guess at the extent and quality of what is there. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature. - Shulgin
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Storing containers of lye in areas where theres moisture can cause it to clump up inside the container if the lid isn't tight. Did you stir it considerably while/after adding to the water? I've found that mine has 'clumped' up before and i had to stir for awhile until it fully dissolved. Warm water helps as well imo.
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RayTracer wrote:Hasn't been very cold in these parts. It only clumped once in the water. Speaking of cold, when it clumped it looked just like ice cubes. I'm assuming its no good. It usually gets so hot I'm afraid it's gonna eat through the container. Strange indeed! Your lye is OK. As a matter of fact, there are not many ways of lye going bad. By time, and in the presence of moisture and air lye will superficially turn to sodium carbonate (still a useable base), but you'll have hard time convincing me that all of your lye turned to sodium carbonate. As you have clumps of it, it dissolves slower and it is no surprise that it doesn't heat up. Try breaking up the clumps (carefully with a wooden stick maybe?) and you'll see the the water heating up. Need to calculate between salts and freebases? Click here! Need to calculate freebase or salt percentage at a given pH? Click here!
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Just saw the above post, thank you. I ended up ordering more lye...and after one 100g extraction it did the same thing! It warmed up a little, but didn't get hot. Will it still break the plant material down if it doesn't heat up? I wish I knew what was causing this. I've had plenty of successful extractions, but as of late I'm having issues with lye. I'm afraid to add plant material to inactive base because I don't want to waste it. Merry Christmas btw!  I am completely convinced that there is a wealth of information built into us, with miles of intuitive knowledge tucked away in the genetic material of every one of our cells. Something akin to a library containing uncountable reference volumes, but without any obvious route of entry. And, without some means of access, there is no way to even begin to guess at the extent and quality of what is there. The psychedelic drugs allow exploration of this interior world, and insights into its nature. - Shulgin
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yes the plant material will still break down because the solution is basic, heat isn't needed 
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YA, Hey I noticed my Lye doing the same thing. The water not warming up like it did on my first extraction. It all turned out great in the end though 
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RayTracer wrote:Hasn't been very cold in these parts. It only clumped once in the water. Speaking of cold, when it clumped it looked just like ice cubes. I'm assuming its no good. It usually gets so hot I'm afraid it's gonna eat through the container. Strange indeed! As Infund said, make sure to break up the clumps! The heat comes from the NaOH dissolving. Also, careful with clumps of undissolved lye touching the glass, this will erode it quicker than a solution and your jar could break much easier. Living to Give
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