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Dethrone
#1 Posted : 11/4/2012 7:02:45 PM
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An account of my first experiences using a volcano vaporizer and DMT.

I decided to try using my volcano because I was introducing a friend and wanted a simple method.After a couple test runs to gauge doses and effects we were ready to go.

The first dose was small so he could get his feet wet before we ventured further.We shared the bag full of smoke my effects were minimal but when I looked at my friend he was staring at the floor with great interest.I stayed quiet and waited for him to finish.

Afterward he told me that he could'nt believe how deep he was inside himself and felt as though he were dying.He said the message he got was "your next" the next time he smokes he is going to die.Despite this he had a huge grin and couldnt wait to smoke more.



We took a short break and prepared for the next journey.This time I doubled the original dose so there would be enough for both of us.My friend must have been nervous after his first time because he told me after that he didnt get much from it.Meanwhile I got plenty and quickly got up off the couch to go outside,I was feeling a little claustrophobic.

I opened the sliding door and walked outside on the deck.Took a deep breath of fresh air and felt better.The visuals are strong and I start looking around,the tree's and plants have geometric patterns on them and are starting to move around.

Soon the tree's have formed demonic faces on them,the plants and the grass also are forming similar faces.The grass looked like grass but reminded me of carpet and had demonic snake fish swimming everywhere.

I had music playing on my ipod and started slowly dancing around,it really helped calm me and put me in a positive state.I looked at the nearest largest demon face I could find and said "demon face,I dont know why you dont show me something better?"and I smiled and kept dancing.

Near the end it was sort of comical with some demon face trees dancing with me,others were fighting among each other,and others still trying to frighten me.
 

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Dethrone
#2 Posted : 11/5/2012 2:34:24 PM
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I have had a few more journeys since those initial two with most being very pleasant.Saturday was warm and sunny so I decided to continue explorations.

The first journey of the day was mid afternoon in the warm sun on the deck behind my house.It took me 4 hits to empty the bag,with a long pause between the 3rd and 4th.As soon as I took the last hit I could tell that I was going to go much further than I intended,this was supposed to be my warmup run.

My mind started to race and I was getting nervous,then I reminded myself what I was doing and why I was doing it.I started to look around the grass was morphing into all sorts of shapes and I was getting a great vibe from it.Then I noticed at the edge of the lawn the weeds and bushes in all stages of decay and it gave me a negative vibe so I looked back to the grass.When I looked back at the morphing grass I got the feeling that "everything has a begining and an end and thats ok".

After watching the grass a short time it began to take on a colorful grid type look to it.It was red,yellow and green,the deck also took on a bright white or yellowish color as well.The lawn grid started to shift in different directions and then the deck as well.The next thing I know I am floating above the deck and seem to be able to make small adjustments to altitude and direction.I must say I really enjoyed the floating.

After the floating it gets blurry,I remember getting mental pictures of Budda and some geometry so I closed my eyes and started recognizing scenes from some of my most intense trips.I cant remember much after that until I was coming out of it surprised that I was having a breakthrough and didnt realize it until it was over.



 
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#3 Posted : 11/12/2012 9:05:36 PM

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Interesting to hear of your experiences.
Reminds me of my unforgettable and mad outdoor times with shrooms,seeing nature as for the first time,and with all these faces everywhere...all these beings,somehow frozen upon discovering them ,(snapshotting them) but very much alive and kicking,im sure. Pleased


 
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#4 Posted : 11/12/2012 10:16:18 PM

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Hi Dethrone,

Thanks for sharing those experiences with us - that was an easy and enjoyable read for me.

It's not up to me to define breakthroughs for anyone, so please take this this right way - I'm not sure you had a full breakthrough experience, but it does sound like you did get dragged right down into trance and things were intense enough to cause some minor memory lapses. Again, I'm no expert and it may be that I'm way off here, but I wanted to share that thought with you.

Also, if you search the Forum you will find that there is a lot of consensus that the Volcano vaporizer is not the way to go with DMT. Besides needing a larger dose to achieve less than profound effects, one wastes a lot of DMT, due to the fact that it melts/resolidifies at a very low temperature, it will recrystallize on the inside of that large Volcano bag.

In a way, you are an experimenter here, with yourself and perhaps even some buddies as your subjects. Why not vary your methods a bit? I'd recommend investing in a Glass Vaporgenie pipe. Barring that I'd recommend trying to smoke a dose using the so-called sandwich method and multiple screens using a traditional spoon (pot) pipe or a bong with rather short height (again, tall bongs = DMT recrystallies onto the inner walls before it hits your lungs).

DMT is very very precious, especially in this new era of no more easy MHRB access. Why not use less to see more/go deeper? Your breakthrough experience should involve some weird things like seeing the same things with eyes open or closed, being dragged down into a trance and being utterly transposed in space and time such that you are in the center of an immersive and highly fractalized as well as utterly beleivable (more real than real) tripscape.

Okay, enough ranting by me. I just wanted to get that out. Perhaps it's given you a bit of food for thought.

Thanks again for sharing your experiences - you have a pleasant writing style. Smile
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Dethrone
#5 Posted : 11/13/2012 3:22:16 PM
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Just for a bit of background,I have used a friends gvg and it by far the best method I have tried.And to be honest I have had much more intense experiences with smoking infused herbs in my bong than with my volcano.

As far as what I seemed to think was a breakthrough,it was more like watching myself having one in third person view.If that makes any sense.Sort of like watching a movie inside my head,it reminded me more of a dream where when you wake up you have no idea you had been dreaming at all.

I have been smoking fb lately and smoking it in my bong is not working well(really hit and miss)either too much or too little.Time to make some infused herbs or changa.

I know the volcano is not the most efficient means of smoking but it is much more efficient than my bong.Losing a little bit of spice in the bag is not so bad when compared to the amount I was loosing in that bong.


In the future I will be getting a better smoking device(GVG).


Thanks for the replies and advice.
 
 
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