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waterbringer
#1 Posted : 11/1/2012 5:26:50 AM
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So a friend wanted to try dmt today and I had some ready I rarely smoke it, really only when friends want to try. This was my friends first time but he is experienced in mushrooms and other drugs. We were in my apartment and we took a few warming up tokes.I experienced enhanced colors and minor geometric imagery as well. I got up from my seat and stood by the door, my friend is enjoying it seeing patters in everything and likes it. But he looks up to me and says, there is someone right next to you, I immediately ask what this person looks like, but he doesn't describe the person he saw instead, he talks about the familiarity of the trip and yet how it is so different.

We walk outside and the wind carried a fresh breeze and the night sky clear, we decided to do it out in my yard I got a few chairs, my friend says something like, I'm going to ask this guy, right before I light him up, he took a good long two drags. Then I go and take take two long drags and hold. It felt almost like trying to get up or like trying to push past a layer of something that kind of holds you back sort of like sticking your hand through plastic or coming out from under water or a heavier substance. Intense geometry and colors I flowed or pushed through, but then I was there a place we had both been before, my friend knew it and said it as well. The way the stars shone like bright like diamonds and I've rarely seen through atmosphere as I had then. But I cannot stress how familiar it was, it was my yard, yet it was a space separate from what it really is. We had been there before every word we spoke we had already heard.

So after I finally come down enough to where I'm not crying and have some control over myself, my friend starts telling me that he asked what this was and that something told him that he must tell me not to do it that I am opening up or calling something that is not good. He was very adamant about making sure that I listen to him and that our lives are on repeat. He said he felt a dark presence right next to him but that it did not pay any attention to him but to me and that it wanted me, said it was not the devil but something that follows and is evil, black, he says something about the apocalypse, that I might have something to do with it but he doesn't know what. He told me these things quite a few times and said that he could feel the presence trying to get rid of him he was shaking getting shivers, but that he had to make me understand to not do it anymore that the presence will consume me.

I do not believe in any religion, I do feel that if there is a "god" thing, that it is nothing like anyone would have you think and that "evil" is only a part of the "good" the thing is that place we went to I have felt and been there before but I can't say when or how but I know. That presence he saw right next me, its not the first time someone has told me there was evil presence right beside me.

So yeah anyone else have any experiences like this?
 

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#2 Posted : 11/1/2012 10:00:56 AM

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if i may ask , is he a good friend of yours ?Big grin
is it possible he was hallucinating ?
and do you believe what he is talking about ?

possibly the three most relevant questions here

the experience is truly magical and dumbfounding , its best to critically think at times and rationalise , what is most important to remember is that an experience is just that - an experience , nothing more nothing less , to give meaning to a experience of such magnitude is surely trying to understand it in human terms , however human terms are just that meanings we have made up to explain what really is beyond our understanding , experience but don't try to understand otherwise you shall miss all the heavenly beauty that can be experienced

illusions !, there are no illusions
there is only that which is the truth
 
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#3 Posted : 11/1/2012 10:26:16 AM

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It is probably paranoia.. but I had,have something that seemed evil blocking me from entering hyperspace. I confronted the spirit/energy and it changed form and color. It did not seem happy when I told it to leave if it was not of light and love.. I posted about my experience ...somewhere.I havent sessioned since that day , not that I am overly afraid to.I just believe I am not in the right mind state to do so currently and yes the spice does scare the shit out of me too tho.

..Soon enough...

* meditation* ...
....
Fuck it..
..INHALE ONCE...
..INHALE ONCE MOAR...
...starting to feel like life is real?! c'mon take one more fir the benefit of man kind...
inha.........
is it - 7 hits or dosing 7 times ..... Either way I lost count along time ago, and Just type/Speak without a filter.... All of this is just one big tasty 'word salad'......
 
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#4 Posted : 11/1/2012 12:37:45 PM

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stolenface wrote:

Fuck it..
..INHALE ONCE...
..INHALE ONCE MOAR...
...starting to feel like life is real?! c'mon take one more fir the benefit of man kind...
inha.........



Yeah, brother, that's the way to do it!
You are Lazarus in the Tomb, and we are always knocking for you to come out. Soon, the tomb will be torn down around you, and you must come out. What will you do then?
 
waterbringer
#5 Posted : 11/1/2012 2:02:12 PM
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Jin wrote:
if i may ask , is he a good friend of yours ?Big grin
is it possible he was hallucinating ?
and do you believe what he is talking about ?

possibly the three most relevant questions here

the experience is truly magical and dumbfounding , its best to critically think at times and rationalise , what is most important to remember is that an experience is just that - an experience , nothing more nothing less , to give meaning to a experience of such magnitude is surely trying to understand it in human terms , however human terms are just that meanings we have made up to explain what really is beyond our understanding , experience but don't try to understand otherwise you shall miss all the heavenly beauty that can be experienced


He is an alright friend and yes he was hallucinating Very happy
But believe? I do not like to believe, or I do not believe in the word believe. If that makes sense. I listen to everyone and spirituality is suppose to be a thing with dmt so I listened to my friend, I thought quite a bit about that experience and decided it was worth sharing my friends reaction to the experience.
I really like the way you put this:
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to give meaning to a experience of such magnitude is surely trying to understand it in human terms , however human terms are just that meanings we have made up to explain what really is beyond our understanding ,

My friend went into that experience with what he knows and imagines, and the thoughts that make him him build a base for how deep he is going to go. Let me describe my friend a little bit. He was in a bad mood before we started; and about six months ago when we were smoking pot, talking about how amazing life is, he lost his interest in the bible. He i think still does consider himself a "soldier of god" but he sees the ridiculousness of the bible and no longer sticks to religion. So he was in a slightly negative mood before hand because of his ex (big surprise.)

The thing that really stuck out is that place we were at we had both been there before we just cant remember how or when we were there. So yeah we were hallucinating and since dmt has such a history of mystical, spiritual stuff I did not just turn away from what he told me, I thought I'd share. Big grin


 
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#6 Posted : 11/1/2012 2:11:39 PM
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stolenface wrote:
It is probably paranoia.. but I had,have something that seemed evil blocking me from entering hyperspace. I confronted the spirit/energy and it changed form and color. It did not seem happy when I told it to leave if it was not of light and love.. I posted about my experience ...somewhere.I havent sessioned since that day , not that I am overly afraid to.I just believe I am not in the right mind state to do so currently and yes the spice does scare the shit out of me too tho.

..Soon enough...

* meditation* ...
....
Fuck it..
..INHALE ONCE...
..INHALE ONCE MOAR...
...starting to feel like life is real?! c'mon take one more fir the benefit of man kind...
inha.........


Hmm it wasn't the first time someone told me about an evil thing being around me. This girl she claims to be able to see things like that. She no longer comes around me or my house. Its just that I have felt that presence myself more than once. Not that it scares me or that I "believe" in it.
Light and Love
Light and Love

lol I kind of do want MOAR!
but I will hold off... for now.
 
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#7 Posted : 11/1/2012 3:51:15 PM

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death, pain, hell, torture, anguish, sorrow, horror, torment, you will live with these for eternity or its equivalent. learn to inhale them without flinching. endure it. your other option is insanity or death-to-self. look at yourself, the evil is you. embrace, absorb incorporate it. i'd say don't be afraid but you will be. don't flee. seek it. know it. hold it in your hand and look at it. not all energy is positive. adherence to light and love is unconscionable favoritism, as darkness and hatred are just as real and valuable. don't reject this opportunity. you're meeting yourself. its a awe inspiring and sacred event.
 
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#8 Posted : 11/1/2012 5:47:36 PM

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Have you told it to go away? Try speaking to it directly. Even if it is psychological, it may have an effect, particularly if you mean it. Worth a try.
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waterbringer
#9 Posted : 11/2/2012 12:14:10 AM
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Abrazaderas wrote:
death, pain, hell, torture, anguish, sorrow, horror, torment, you will live with these for eternity or its equivalent. learn to inhale them without flinching. endure it. your other option is insanity or death-to-self. look at yourself, the evil is you. embrace, absorb incorporate it. i'd say don't be afraid but you will be. don't flee. seek it. know it. hold it in your hand and look at it. not all energy is positive. adherence to light and love is unconscionable favoritism, as darkness and hatred are just as real and valuable. don't reject this opportunity. you're meeting yourself. its a awe inspiring and sacred event.

Wow, thank you for the reply. Very true for everyone I think.
 
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#10 Posted : 11/2/2012 12:04:00 PM

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waterbringer wrote:

Wow, thank you for the reply. Very true for everyone I think.


sure! but don't forget to smell the roses - even if you're really bummed, look at how much beauty and simple pleasure surrounds us even as we fret and worry.
 
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#11 Posted : 11/2/2012 7:58:10 PM

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Abrazaderas wrote:
death, pain, hell, torture, anguish, sorrow, horror, torment, you will live with these for eternity or its equivalent. learn to inhale them without flinching. endure it. your other option is insanity or death-to-self. look at yourself, the evil is you. embrace, absorb incorporate it. i'd say don't be afraid but you will be. don't flee. seek it. know it. hold it in your hand and look at it. not all energy is positive. adherence to light and love is unconscionable favoritism, as darkness and hatred are just as real and valuable. don't reject this opportunity. you're meeting yourself. its a awe inspiring and sacred event.


That is beautifully profound.
That favoritism to light and love part is something we need to let go of. There is a way to to find balance and accept things as they are with love even the things we may not like. Through my own experiences with what seem to be darker entities i've learned it is way easier to accept them than to fight them away much like letting go of your ego. It's all an amazing experience.
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#12 Posted : 11/2/2012 9:09:01 PM

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stolenface wrote:

* meditation* ...
....
Fuck it..
..INHALE ONCE...
..INHALE ONCE MOAR...
...starting to feel like life is real?! c'mon take one more fir the benefit of man kind...
inha.........


I love this and you for posting it Smile
 
 
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