Hello everyone. Pre warning - Discussion of a sexual nature, if you would be offended please don't read on.

I'm currently in the process of learning how to move my sexual energy and enjoy multiple whole body orgasms without ejaculating. As a man I've always been slightly jealous of how women can have orgasm after orgasm and lose none of their drive or sexual energy. For us men it's a bit different as you all know. Once we ejaculate, the drive usually goes and we need some recovery time.

To begin with I read a book called "The Multi Orgasmic Man". It explains how orgasm and ejaculation are 2 separate things and goes into techniques to control ejaculation and move energy.

I tried the techniques in the book and after practice I can orgasm and stop myself ejaculating fully by clenching my PC muscle. I can then have a series of "mini orgasms" in the space of 20 seconds or so. I think the most I've had was 4 or 5 consecutive but usually it's 2.

The 'clench' is only a small part of the technique, the majority of the work is done with breathing and visualisation. That's the bit I haven't got down yet. I've tried and I just can't get it work at all.

When done properly, the energy would have moved away from your genitals and around to other areas of your body. Then you can have multiple whole body orgasms and lose none of your sexual energy, it all gets recirculated through your body. You would actually feel more energised after sex, not tired and lethargic as we men normally do.

I'm currently working with an energy teacher to try to develop this further. She told me that something that is not mentioned in the book though, is that in order to do this "energy moving" stuff you need to have your energy flowing freely around your body. Any blocks and it won't work. That's what I'm working on right now, removing the blocks.

I wondered if there are any men on this forum who are experienced in these techniques and can do what I'm talking about above?

I've always been interested in this myself but have never mastered it. I believe I have a lot of the blockages your energy teacher was talking about. That makes a lot of sense as to why I haven't progressed more.

I'm looking forward to seeing what others have to say on this. Thanks for starting this topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/.../Taoist_sexual_practices

Here Mantak Chia's method is mentioned, I was educated in this and still practicing/learning, this never ends.

It was a topic on the other forum, so I will link 2 of my own comments from there:

http://forums.ayahuasca....pic.php?p=229308#p229308

http://forums.ayahuasca....pic.php?p=229491#p229491

So, how do you drag the energy up?
The post says to rise it trough the spine, for this one should practice the orbital flow meditation without sexual energy to be able to execute it on sexual energy. So this is a bit tao-advanced.

But there is an intermediate way, to forget the orbit path, but when the orgasm arrives, to spread it out trough the whole body at once. With a start from the genital center making a wave of energy (not necessarily physically demonstrative, but one could) trough body, arms, legs til the fingers and toes and let the wave stop or leave there. This way you divert your attention/intention away from your genital region, just before the ejaculation wants to happen, with a travel trough the whole body that take like 5 seconds. This is enough to stop the ejaculation even without cramping the base muscle but one can also combine that, one has to learn the timing.

Check it out by yourself, where is your attention/intention placed in your body the seconds before ejaculation? Yes, there below, in a concentrated form. You are the boss where to put your attention, use that. Shower yourself fully internally with the orgasmic energy instead of letting it explode in one point there below.

So it is not "Relax don't do it, when you wanna.." like Frankie goes to hollywood sings. It is not relaxing at all, it is starting to do something with that energy, spread & smear it out over your whole body to the fingertips and toes. This way you set the ejaculation without fuel, that fuel is your undivided presence and attention. That fuel, you move away from it for few seconds to rest of body, making a blast wave there.

You can see the genital region as a source of (orgasmic) energy that needs to be poked to engage, and once it does and you keep poking than it explodes there, full loss, empty, tired sleep, depletion. Once the explosion sets in, stop poking and start distributing the energy at once with the displacement of your attention, and so the energy will be converted for the benefit of the whole body, an internal shower. The orgasmic energy will follow your attention by nature.

The practice can be learned alone very much, with partner things can become more challenging, as when you stop poking + distributing, but partner makes some moves then it might still explode locally.

Now get to work

PS, I'm no master in all this, just a practitioner with 8/10 good result, sometimes it just doesn't work, days differ.

PS2, I would very much hear about other people having other tec's or insights.

Pressing the perineum with external force, or deliberately cramping the base muscles, have a stop ejaculating effect. It seems having this alone as a strategy has some critics:
http://forum.healingdao.com/practice/message/5409/

I recon "the circulation" in the orbit as best value, with in second place my suggested "blast wave trough the body" for the less inclined, to deal with the fact that energy has to be flown and not trapped.

Bump, relevant:

I like Mantak Chia.

A bit more spaced out, hopefully someone will find joy in it:

Funny to see this guy mentioned twice in this thread. I had never heard of him until a few days ago, when I stumbled upon a box of books someone left in the street, and took "Taoist secrets of love. Cultivating male sexual energy" by Chia. Apparently, he mastered the method and could finally dispose of the manual, although it took him some time: also in the box was a book borrowed from the library that was due back in 1972.

The book has mixed reviews on Amazon, but the guy seems generally well liked. However, the practice it describes appears to target much loftier states than mere multiple orgasms.
As for the muscle clenching technique someone mentioned above, the results reported online are also mixed. I think what's happening is that people will sometimes clench the wrong muscle until they throw the pelvic region into total chaos.

This tends to be an issue with healing methods of all kind. Kegels are often recommended for controlling ejaculation, with a diagram showing what to contract. The thing is, if the sufferers were the kind of people who could easily access small internal muscles and voluntarily manipulate them, they would have probably not had problems with ejaculation in the first place, as they would have simply used the necessary muscles automatically, much like we do when we walk.

^he is also a pioneer in darkrooming and Im pretty sure he was invovled in the soma-huasca experiments of Ananda Bosman using rue and acacias.