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#1 Posted : 9/17/2012 5:55:41 PM

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They have discovered high usage of K can lead to severe bladder damage.

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#2 Posted : 9/17/2012 7:36:35 PM

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By high usage you mush mean "uses it a lot"...have you ever talked with anyone who use K alot? Or even just looked at them? They sort of turn into these weird, deformed, fiendish and mindless things. Yeah, do not do K often.
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#3 Posted : 9/17/2012 8:17:14 PM

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This is nothing new..bladder problems with heavy Ketamine use have been known of for some time.

I met a guy at a festival who did it daily for about a year and was at the doctors at the end of it with serious bladder problems. He was def anti ketamine by the time I met him.
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#4 Posted : 9/17/2012 8:59:18 PM
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I never heard of this... I have done quite a bit of ketamine in my day but have not suffered any trouble...

Definitely good to know however...makes me think twice about doing it again...

I stopped doing it about a year back when I was having trouble finding any decent stuff guess it was for the best..

Thanks for posting this..
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#5 Posted : 9/17/2012 9:07:54 PM

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yeah, as jamie has already said-
this is nothing knew and has been common knowledge for some time.

Doodazzle hit it on the head pretty well IME.

everything in moderation.




especially moderation.
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#6 Posted : 9/20/2012 5:27:01 PM

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I believe this is the case with many dissociative drugs. Be especially careful with all the freaky new ketamine and pcp analogues. As I understand it, it takes a lot of ketamine to do really serious damage to the bladder. Like upwards of a few grams a day for the course of a couple of years.
 
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#7 Posted : 9/20/2012 8:45:46 PM

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" As I understand it, it takes a lot of ketamine to do really serious damage to the bladder. Like upwards of a few grams a day for the course of a couple of years."

This statement seems to be without be any real basis, the danger of a drug like ketamine is present in far less amounts than mentioned. What one persons body can tolerate has nothing to do with the next.

I personally cannot believe that amounts anywhere close to that could be considered "safe" for a persons bladder.

A few grams in one day might damage a persons bladder in one said day, you never know, best not to understate potential damage of something like this.
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#8 Posted : 9/21/2012 1:27:26 AM

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I have seen some very serious issues from ketamine in the past few years. Many people with bladder issues, one person in particular lost normal use of his bladder and had a catheter put in (not sure whether this was permanent or not).

From what I understand heavy ketamine use also has some effects on the stomach or somewhere around that area.
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#9 Posted : 9/21/2012 8:09:44 AM

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This isn't new news. Don't swallow the 'drip'. One of my friends has ongoing stomach / intestinal issues as a result. Hospital visits etc. No fun. Ketamine. Just say neigh. (or do it in moderate doses spread FAR apart)
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#10 Posted : 9/21/2012 5:22:06 PM

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ntwhtyouknw wrote:
" As I understand it, it takes a lot of ketamine to do really serious damage to the bladder. Like upwards of a few grams a day for the course of a couple of years."

This statement seems to be without be any real basis, the danger of a drug like ketamine is present in far less amounts than mentioned. What one persons body can tolerate has nothing to do with the next.

I personally cannot believe that amounts anywhere close to that could be considered "safe" for a persons bladder.

A few grams in one day might damage a persons bladder in one said day, you never know, best not to understate potential damage of something like this.

I know quite a few people who have used ketamine in such amounts and had no bladder problems whatsoever. I'm sure it varies from person to person, but the statement isn't "without any real basis." Obviously Ketamine isn't something you should do a lot of anyway, regardless of its effects on the bladder.
 
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#11 Posted : 9/22/2012 7:14:45 PM

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it is without basis.

if it isn't, then where is the source for that information?

i bet you can't provide one.
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#12 Posted : 9/22/2012 11:26:19 PM

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Ive never ever tried it.
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#13 Posted : 9/23/2012 12:22:14 AM

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if you're into shrooms, acid, dmt etc, trust me when i say you aren't missing out on much Pleased

been there, done that, it's not for me.
i had enough horrible experiences where i couldn't move to save my life that i decided its not my thing.
to each their own of course...

but yeah- if you do use it, make sure you don't use it lots or often.
it will destroy you if you let it. both your body and soul.

everything has it's place and time...
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#14 Posted : 9/23/2012 12:23:26 AM

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Ive never ever tried it.


^^^^. I had already heard about the kidney issues, but after reading this thread, my aspirations of trying K have been completely eliminated.

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#15 Posted : 9/23/2012 12:41:49 AM

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k and shrooms together are awesome.
i went through a gram of k in about four hours, then ate an eighth of shrooms. had no problems tinkling that night, or afterwards
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#16 Posted : 9/23/2012 1:04:51 AM

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The last time I tried it was last Christmas, I only did some because I was on LSD and wanted to see what the combo was like.
I have only done k maybe 6-8 times. I don't really like it that much but I get the point I guess. I've never fully been in a "hole" tho.

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#17 Posted : 9/23/2012 1:14:48 AM

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i actually prefer k over acid. a k-hole is a 50-min thing, vs. an annoying 8-12 hr drawn out ordeal.
then again, I've had acid much more frequently. a k-hole just seemed less mundane.
the two together would probably be really neato
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#18 Posted : 9/23/2012 3:17:44 AM

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you've never tried them together ben?
dance dance dance dance dance.
in my experience, it hurts a little bit to pee after a ketamine bender (2-3 days, 2-3 grams) but regardless, i feel as though ketamine is best used as a buffer/enhancement/colorant to other chemicals, and in large doses alone once every few months for a bit of mental reprogramming
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#19 Posted : 9/23/2012 3:19:29 AM

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I tried to breakdance on 200 mg of K. fail.

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benzyme wrote:
I tried to breakdance on 200 mg of K. fail.




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