Hey there fellow nexians,

Last night, I decided to take my first steps. It was strange.. and sort of scary. I felt extremly uncomfortable throughout the whole ordeal. I'll let you guys know everything. In as much detail as I can.

I decided to smoalk from a water bong. I don't have enough money yet to buy a gvg, but, I'm really planning on one soon enough. I did the method where you pack a little herb on the bottom, enough to make sort of a platform, for the dmt to rest on. I placed about 20mg on the herb, and put some more ontop of that, to keep it from burning. I had just a regular old bic too, to do the lighting. I know all these methods arn't 'the correct' way, so to speak, but, that's pretty much all I had, and I was ready to go.

When I looked down at the bowl, I knew it was way to much for me to hit at one time, but.. from all the ways I've read about doing it that certain way, this was how it was suppose to look.

I took my first hit, sort of, lightly touching the flame to the top layer of herb, trying not to though. It caught, and I just kept pulling. Nice big plume of smoke for me to suck down. Held it in for as long as I could, maybe 10-15 seconds, and blew out. Now I see what that, 'burnt plastic', 'odd taste' is. It wasn't harsh at all, really. I sat back for a minute, and started to get a little shakey, and felt alittle uneasy. I decided to take another hit, because there was still sooo much herb left in there, some of the dmt had to drip down into it. The second hit was muuch larger, and after only 5 seconds tops, i coughed it out. And coughed and coughed. THAT was plasticy. My mouth started going numb, as did my throat. Everything started to get a little brighter. The green on my walls got more and more green. The slight patterns on the walls started to meld away, and it was just green all over. After about a minute, I decided to take another hit, because this didn't feel right. Bigger hit again, and that time I kept it in for at least 10 seconds. Almost no smoalk coming out from the longer kept hits.

After the third one, I felt reeeally strange, and I started to get this whining noise, which slowly grew louder. I could almost feel the levels of sound coming from it, and I knew it was only 3/4 of the way there(?), if that makes any sense. I decided now's the time to close my eyes, and see where this takes me. At first, it was just a bunch of colors, alot of oranges, and really dark reds. More patterns and kaleidoscope looking things. I opened my eyes, just for a second, and closed them again. Everything was greens, and a really really, electric blue, at that point. The blue, stood out more than anything else. I could see the electricity jumping from it.

At this point, things started to change, and I started to see, shapes forming, from the colors. Nothing at all recognizable, but, things were there. I saw this ball, or orb, or something, and it was moving around. I was following it back and forth, and then, it went straight for my head, and it felt like it went into my head. I could feel the hole where it went in from, and that feeling never left until I opened my eyes for a while. But, that was like twenty minutes away.

I started narrating myself for a while, everything I could see, I was telling myself I saw. That got me really annoyed for some reason. And throughout most of this, I felt really uncomfortable. I can't put my finger on what was so uncomfortable, but that feeling was just everywhere.

All the shapes and stuff that were forming, when my eyes were closed, I want to say what they were, and I feel like I know it, but, at the same time, I can't put it down on here. I can't remember much anymore either. I do remember seeing what looked to be some glass blowing. When you blow into a little tube, that's almost red hot, and it starts to expand, into this almost bubble shape. There was two of them, and they were both spinning oppositely.

It was a real hectic time. Made me question what I did. Did I do this right? I couldn't have, could I? What's going on here? Why is this happening? It almost scared me, but I knew I shouldn't be scared at the same time. But, it was still hard to not be.

Any more details, or info you'd like to know, or that I forgot to add, please ask, and I'll share it. This experence has only slightly detered me from attempting another go at hyperspace. Meaning, I probably won't attempt it again tonight, but in the near future, I'm sure I will be.

And, I made this stuff myself, using the STB, dmt for the masses tek. (If this shouldn't be in here, please let me know, I'm sorry.(First real post)). Minus that nasty sounding ammonia bath.

Dont worry, your first try can be shaky. Cuz of the expectations and fears etc. Your first trip is very similar to my first try.

Soysouce wrote:




From what I observe the entities or whatever you want to call them do not like it when we think to ourselves during the DMT experience. Internal dialouge is considered an unproductive activity in the spirit world from what I have noticed.

They want you to witness the experience and to pay attention.. They seem to get irritated if you overthink during the experience because if your thinking then to them your not paying attention properly..

-Just my view on it..

A few more things that I've now remembered due to this or that.

I was driving, on my way to pick up my brother, and I had this cup with me. If you've seen Jurassic park, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about, but, I looked down at it, and saw these ripples going through the water. Due to moving. Which reminded me, at one point, before things started to get really awkward, and uncomfortable, maybe closer to the begining, I felt these vibrations, these crazy vibrations. They reminded me of what you see when you throw a rock into a pond, or your cup full of liquid shakes, those ripples. That part was amazing, and then I had gotten a little to excited with it all I think. To pumped up, if you will. Oh, it's really happening it's really happening! And then all those feelings, and pictures flashed infront of my closed eyes.

Another part, which I really felt creeped out by then, and almost just as much now, was I had this sort of internal dialog with myself. But, one of those sides, I almost knew for certain, wasn't me. It felt like that thing I described earlier, whatever went into my head, and I felt the spot it entered for almost the rest of the night, was the one talking. I can't remember what I was saying to myself, but, it's like it was repeating me. I think I was saying that I am me, that's who I am. And it would come back with, No, I am me, that's who I am. I don't think those are exact words, but, it was something like that. That part really bothered me at the time. And then, I started thinking, no wait.. This is me, thinking right now. Those other two, I don't know what they are. And why are they fighting inside of my head?

I honestly think that the other voice I heard was just some sort of other trip. I wasn't focusing. I was talking to myself, in my head, and it almost just echoed back at me, in a different 'voice'.

@ River of Thoughts
Thanks for that. That's what I was kind of thinking too. I'm expecting all these things, and I shouldn't be expecting anything really, just what it gives me. And the fears. Of course. Who in their right mind wouldn't be at least a little bit fearful of that crazy place. At least the first time. I'm glad my first time reminded you of yours, that makes me feel alot better about the whole thing. Makes me a little less weary of doing it again.
Hey, it happens, don't worry.

@ Eliyahu
The whole time I was dialoging with myself, I knew it was wrong. I felt it. I didn't want to do it, but I couldn't stop myself from. I bet they were irritated by it, I know I was. Thanks for your input, it means alot to a beginner like me. I'll just have to work at it, a little better next time.

So, I decided to take another 20mg hit tonight.

But this time, I decided to.. upgrade my smoalking technigue a little bit. I decided to use a little bit less herb than last time, because I knew it was to much to begin with. I was just to excited to finally do it. I put two copper screens above it as well, to cover from the flames, that I know touched it last night.

I also figgured I'd premelt the dmt as well, to make it move a little quicker. I watched it absorb into the bed of herb, and put the two screens above it, maybe a half inch or so. I kept the flames pretty close, barely touching. After my second full hit, it was noticably smoother, and nicer feeling on me in general than last nights. I remembered this feeling, so I took one more hit, held it in for a bit, and then sat back, and let it all go.

At first, it was more or less colors. When my eyes were open, everything was so bright, yet again. The colors were vivid. Some patterns were showing up, and dancing here and there. Not to much. I've seen alot more on lsd.

Then, lots of orange. Lots more than normal. It was a rainbow sparkle before. It's orange now. A lions head. Right in the middle of everything. Radiating colors in every direction. It looked firmilar, but.. I can't place it now. I kept seeing him for what felt like ten minutes.

This whisper came to me. It felt, 100%, like somebody just whispered in my right ear. Cold, and silky. I could barely hear her voice. Now, all I could do was focus on her voice. I started to see shapes, floating in front of me. They started getting alot more detailed, and then turned into, what I can only describe as blueprints. But, they were 3D. And they wern't blueprints for buildings, I'll tell ya that. What they were though, I have absolutly no idea. They were amazing looking things. One, in particular, I thought I knew. And I thought I could understand her for a moment when she spoke of this peice. And then it all made sense, and I knew what each blueprint really was.

And then, it was all just to much. It took me back a ways. I started thinking about things again, regular stuff, and I could feel her fading away. She whispered one last thing to me, and I told myself I would remember that, if anything, but it got lost in those last minutes, coming completly back.

I then opened my eyes, remembering that there was a wall behind me, and how comfortable this pillow really is. I was sooo so happy. I had almost none of the ill effects I felt last night. I felt awake, and good, and almost clean. With a slight foggyness in the head. Which, two and a half hours later, is still there. I'm still semi-wide awake as well, and that's no big deal.

From what I think, smoalking dmt daily like this isn't the best idea. Some time to come back to normal seems/feels best. But, I have many more ideas now, coming from that dmt time, on how to further upgrade my little bong to better vape it's wonderful cargo. Nothing to expensive yet, I'm thinking of getting myself a gvg soon enough. It seems to be getting to be quite the chore to find stable supplies. I want to savor this batch, not knowing how easily it will be to come across more in the future.

And, thanks for reading my little experiences.
Hopefully I'll get all the way there soon enough!