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#1 Posted : 2/21/2009 7:15:54 AM

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For SWIM, the vibrating become so intense and the ringing and strange tones become so loud, that everything becomes silent and the body entirely numb, the "strange room" lasts a few seconds, and then it's like.....it's not like falling, but it's like losing your place, not the sense of place because you still know you're you, but you can't tell where your left arm starts or your right arm ends, and then it becomes impossible to comprehend or think about, it feels like your body is twisting and contorting in impossible ways like your mouth swallows your face and it's just so intense, and it feels like your brain is truly crawling around inside your skull. It's like your thoughts are stuttering. Has anyone ever felt this? SWIM was convinced during a dream that he was trapped in this loop that was everything, and that's really the only way he can describe it. Has anyone at least felt like their body was contorting impossibly and collapsing upon itself and fluidly.....something?
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#2 Posted : 2/21/2009 6:29:12 PM

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it's not like falling, but it's like losing your place, not the sense of place because you still know you're you, but you can't tell where your left arm starts or your right arm ends, and then it becomes impossible to comprehend or think about, it feels like your body is twisting and contorting in impossible ways like your mouth swallows your face and it's just so intense, and it feels like your brain is truly crawling around inside your skull. It's like your thoughts are stuttering. Has anyone ever felt this? ... Has anyone at least felt like their body was contorting impossibly and collapsing upon itself and fluidly.....something?

Yes I know exactly what your trying to explain!!

Sometimes, if I take a rather large dose, but it ends up not being enough for a breakthrough, I too get this contorting and collapsing of my body.

Especially: "like your mouth swallows your face"!!

I've licked my lips while in this weird, in between state and it felt like my tongue split & went up, to wet my top lip and down, to wet my bottom lip, at the same time!! Kind of like a lizard's tongue, but vertical & the two halves where independent, where I could feel what each tongue was touching in full detail. Like two separate hands!!
Also, my "dual-tongue" (ladies...) was so long that the bottom one was licking the bottom of my chin & the top one was licking my forehead!!
As I'm noticing all of this, my head feels as if it is folding in on itself, like a whirlpool!!

Other times, my jaw get so tensed up that I'm afraid I'm going to break my teeth!! I've also ran my tongue over my teeth & thought I was missing some, or had broken some. It really freaked me out until I returned to baseline I found everything in my mouth to be normal.

So what you explained sounds very familiar to me!!

When I do reach a breakthrough, a lot of times I notice a silence, or stillness that happens immediately after reaching the "domed room", as that place starts to form & become intelligent.
It happens suddenly, like the power it took to get me there, is shut off with a switch.

I feel it's similar to launching a ship into space, it takes so much energy & raw power to create enough force to break the hold of gravity, but once the ship has breached the Earth's atmosphere & is out in the vacuum of space, there is peace, silence, and everything is suddenly smooth because there is no more resistance to the ship's bulk.

A large dose of DMT launches consciousness out to wherever it is one goes, but if you don't reach the necessary level of power to "make the jump to light speed", your body then has to deal with that overload of energy that didn't reach it's goal until the "fuel" burns itself out.

That's how I've always looked at it, anyway.

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#3 Posted : 2/22/2009 2:06:57 AM
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From a neurological point of view I speculate that the initial chaotic phase is due to existing thought processes being insanely overdriven, sped up and intensified in certain directions. As the concentration of DMT increases, it feels like the brain jumps to different levels or structures which correspond to various unstable interference patterns created by the rising neural frequencies.

Bursting through the chaos and emerging in the peace of the domed room corresponds to the final state of complete neural integration, where the entire brain is vibrating on a single frequency. This synchronized vibration is like a carrier wave for neural communication, so all parts of the brain are essentially brought together into a single unit to form a transcendent consciousness with capabilities far beyond normal experience.

That is the (extremely jargon-laden) conceptual framework I am currently using, which helps to link the conscious experience with what is known about neurocognitive science.

 
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#4 Posted : 2/22/2009 7:41:17 AM

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From a neurological point of view I speculate that the initial chaotic phase is due to existing thought processes being insanely overdriven, sped up and intensified in certain directions. As the concentration of DMT increases, it feels like the brain jumps to different levels or structures which correspond to various unstable interference patterns created by the rising neural frequencies.

Bursting through the chaos and emerging in the peace of the domed room corresponds to the final state of complete neural integration, where the entire brain is vibrating on a single frequency. This synchronized vibration is like a carrier wave for neural communication, so all parts of the brain are essentially brought together into a single unit to form a transcendent consciousness with capabilities far beyond normal experience.

That is the (extremely jargon-laden) conceptual framework I am currently using, which helps to link the conscious experience with what is known about neurocognitive science.

Nice!!
I follow you.
Great quick explanation!! I'm only able to give my metaphoric version, but what your saying sounds spot-on.

Next time I get down with the spice, I'll have to keep that example in mind & see if I can "follow along" as the frequency's tune into phase with each other...

What is it with the "domed room" that so many report too?
Early on I had this idea of DMT allowing us access to experiencing our brain on the atomic level (?correct level?), the dome being the inside of the scull.
The "elves" or "light-energy beings" being the synapses. Conscious & independently firing all around & through you, a million miles a minute, happy as hell & excited to see you. And just as excited to show off their "jewels" to you. Which are each like a whole universe of beauty & power in itself that keeps creating more of these jewels & light-energy beings.
These "jewels" being the part of consciousness & thought that just can't be explained yet.

I know how that is a bit far off, now. Although as I write this, I just don't know again...


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#5 Posted : 2/22/2009 8:01:22 AM
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Interesting.. Considering I am now tripping on pharmahuasca, I will pose this question to my entities Smile
 
 
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