so, i'm sitting here having a few drinks, and i thought i'd ask the forum if anyone (or anyone you know) has ever made a DMT journey while drunk, or drinkingn in general.

to me it sounds like the mother of terrible decisions. but alcohol IS the mother of bad decision makers. so i was wondering if anyone (or anyone you know) has thought, in a drunken state of mind, that DMT would be a smart thing to do.

the combo sounds vile, and i would love to hear some horror stories (or happy stories) of said combo.

sorry if this is already a topic but i saw nothing like it so far.

Ha, funny you bring that up. SWIM once ran an dry pressure cooker by mistake while drunk. It burned up the filters and much of the contents of the jars and caused quite a bit of smoke. One of the jars even broke. SWIM would highly recommend not doing anything potentially hazardous while drunk, especially if it's illegal.

SWIM had a drunken DMT experience the other week. Had about 5 or 6 cans with a friend then brought out the spice. The experience was quite underwhelming. Alcohol has a strong depressant effect which shuts down neural communication and tends to cancel out most of the mentally stimulating effects of DMT. There were some visuals but it looked like SWIM was seeing them from underneath the surface of a rippling pond. Even with quite high amounts of spice SWIM was barely getting anything and the duration was very short. SWIM's verdict: don't bother, it's a waste of spice.

amor: if i had a nickle for every bad drunken mistake i made... i could rebuy the car i wrecked.

chem: strange. i would think the combo would make me puke in the most violent way. to hear it was just a waste seems underwhelming (yet expected). but for sure i would have thought the 2 would cause some nasty sickness.

I highly rcommend against this combo from swims own experience.

Swim was out drinking one night and came home and one of his friends came over for some spice.....swim had no intention of taking the journey (he had only smoked it a few times at that point).

As soon as his friend came back to planet earth with a smile on his face.....swim impulsively decided to take in the spice.

As soon as it started to hit he knew it was a big mistake (wasn't mentally prepared). It definately was a sobering experience

Oops, misread it, thought you wrote "made DMT" not "made a DMT journey." Ha!

But while SWIM doesn't think there's anything inherently wrong with the combo, it's usually somewhat of a waste of spice.

SWIM smoked it drunk with a friend on two nights, both after about 7 pints. It was fun but the visuals were a lot less clear, too fuzzy. The religiosity was still there, they both became very deep.
However, when he smoked the largest dose he lost all perception of time and was a bit worried about regulating his breathing correctly, he felt like he might either die from holding his breath for too long or die hyperventilating, and he had no idea which! His friend said his breathing was actually totally normal. So he'll just stick to little ones when tipsy.

He also smoked it on two occasions once home after a night of a few drinks and a few lines of a friend's cocaine. That was good and the clarity was there, and he thinks the cocaine kept any fear at bay. His friend did a line a few minutes before blasting off for the first time ever and she was fine! But SWIM wouldn't recommend that, he told her not to because of how coke increases heart rate etc, but she wouldn't listen.
She didn't like it on her third and largest dose... she enjoyed it at first, saying she was on a motorbike, but then she got upset when all the elves were splatting against her face like bugs!
It was very sexual those times, very textual, as if being stroked all over by the elves, but that could just be what happens when two people of the opposite sex lie on a bed together and enter hyperspace.

I have had plenty of drunken spice journeys.Most are pretty good but one was bad but thats because the spice was abused and the intent was bad.For the most part a little alcohol to take the edge off is usually okay. Sometimes with to much alcohol I could feel it running through my veins while in hyperspace.

Weird, SWIM loves dmt when drunk. But not totally leathered. 1-2 beers just to feel the alcohol, and then blast into hyperspace. The experiences have usually been awesome.

Even though many people do not condone alcohol and/or the combo with spice, SWIM feels that alcohol in moderate amounts can ease any pre-launch anxiety and makes it easier to take decisions. For instance, if one hesitates to try a full blown 40-60mg dose, well, a couple of beers can fix it.

And alcohol does not blakn the experience in the same way weed does. The weed-dmt combo sucks for SWIM.

Doing psychedelics with too much alcohol is like holding a piece of cheap glass in front of a high precision telescope: it blurs the image.
A few beers are OK for some people, but just don't do it out of boredom while really wasted. There's a chance you'll really piss off some powerful entities! All you can do is grovel and promise you'll never do it again, like a little kid that has been naughty... It happened to me once - lesson learnt

yea entities dont like you mixing other drugs really unless they are psychedelics IMO.

Maybe a couple drinks to loosen up is understandable if not using in combo with a potentiator.

I would be careful though you wouldnt want to provoke more nausea & choke on your own throw up while out of your body..

yea smoking weed before DMT alone makes me not want to do it, than approaching the spice with a clear head, or a already tripping one.

SWIM has never experienced nausea with freebase, do other people get this? Or do you mean from the booze (he hasn't thrown up in years, his body can handle a ridiculous amount of booze after a lifetime of regrettable binging). Obviously he would never take anything else if he had taken an MAOI.

Personally I don't think the entities mind whatever else you're on, they only care about your attitude at the time. They have always been fine to SWIM on the 20-odd occasions when he has also had booze, coke, a little cactus, kanna, St John's Wort in various combinations. Contraindications are more of a worry for him... coke instinctively seems like a bad idea if taken just before blast-off.

Incidentally, both his friends who were introduced to DMT when they were drunk were amazed to feel fine the next day, while they were expecting to feel hungover from the booze, and they felt as if the DMT had purified them somehow.

For SWIM, drunkenness almost completely inhibits the effects of the spice. It can be so much more iwthout the beer.

getting over the pre-launch jitters is just up to you, im sure everyone here gets the same anxiety. Smoking weed for SWIM doesn't really help either, im just content to be stoned and enjoy it.

well i must say i'm surprised at the lack of vomit in these posts. lol.

when swim was drinking he sure that trying to launch would just end in vomit and spins. then again, if he drinks and then tries to smoke weed, he gets viciously sick.

swim can handle anything, but for some reason pot is the hardest for him to handle (paranoia, sickness).

For me 2-3 beers are fine and ease the come-up but I don't go nearly as deep into hyperspace as when I'm totally sober. But I've never smoked while really drunk so I wouldn't know. And I don't wanna know. Wouldn't do it.