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Hupecat
#1 Posted : 8/19/2012 1:41:16 AM
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Somebody please help me...

i am doing DMT for quite some years now, every now and then, and was always impressed about the visuals, especially when i closed my eyes...

But since quite a while now, trying all different sorts of DMT , jungle, jimjam, etc, different vendors, extracted different versions on my own as well.. i do not get any vusuals ...

i can high-dose, last time i tried 175 mg, nothing... (I vaped it through aVaporGenie with 10 meshes inside, so no spice might fall through before being vaporized,

i tried the sandwich thing on a normal pipe, and a bong aswell.. i built different versions of "The machine"Pleased, tried a light bulb... nothing..

yeah i even tried "chasing the dragon".....Embarrased

when i close my eyes, i think there might be some swirling patterns, etc. but very very barely.. it seems as if there is a black filter in front of it..

closing my eyes just mainly black.
i vaped at different locations, different daylight, nightlight, i tried every possible thing that might take effect of it..

i also tried to add a little bit of caapi or Chaliponga on top of the white spice,

i do not get any visual effects anymore..(or they are hidden behind this black filter i wanna get rid of..

Who can help me with getting my visual-effects back.
i used to love it sooo much..

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#2 Posted : 8/19/2012 7:06:06 AM

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This seems to happen to certain people every now and then. I have no idea why.

I have had the same problem for a couple of months but now it feels like the floodgates have 'opened' again.

Do you smoke weed? When I started with Dmt I had quit weed completely. Then, as my relationship with Dmt grew I found weed starting to creep back into my life and I stopped having visuals and that incredible feeling I used to get.

If you don't smoke weed... It could be a whole host of other things. Stay away from other drugs for at least 2-3 days, the dmt will appreciate you 'coming at it' with a more ritualistic approach.

Check out my last post in the general dmt experiences section, its not only about visuals either and maybe you need to experience some OTHER kind of deep experience before you can be let back in.

Good luck! Would like to hear how your progress is coming along...

Smile

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Hupecat
#3 Posted : 8/19/2012 8:32:52 AM
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changalvia wrote:
This seems to happen to certain people every now and then. I have no idea why.

I have had the same problem for a couple of months but now it feels like the floodgates have 'opened' again.

Do you smoke weed? When I started with Dmt I had quit weed completely. Then, as my relationship with Dmt grew I found weed starting to creep back into my life and I stopped having visuals and that incredible feeling I used to get.

If you don't smoke weed... It could be a whole host of other things. Stay away from other drugs for at least 2-3 days, the dmt will appreciate you 'coming at it' with a more ritualistic approach.

Check out my last post in the general dmt experiences section, its not only about visuals either and maybe you need to experience some OTHER kind of deep experience before you can be let back in.

Good luck! Would like to hear how your progress is coming along...

Smile




Well, i 'm smoking weed for more than 20 years now, and in earlier years i did it in every free moment...
but it just happened that i reduced my weedconsum rapidly to 1 or 2 joints a day.. without any special reason...
i used to smoke more than 4 gr years ago..
so taking less weed than before shouldnt be a reason then,

i posted some similar threat in another forum couple of weeks ago, and this one guy told me his visuals came back on the peak of a high-dose (i think it was MXE, or DMC), vaping a big hit.. since then all fine again..??

my hopes now go giving some Changa a more prefereable effect..
just ordered different kind of herbs , harmaline freebase, etc..
will tryout different forms of Changa then, trying if that might change anything...
i do have some Caapi.B vines left, so thinking of having a small cup of tea before smoking..?

but its really like a black curtain where you can barely hardly could see through. there might be something happening behind that curtain is my impression..
i still do breakthrough, as having my elves sitting and jumping sometimes on me, talking to me, but the "flowing visuals is what i miss the most..!

anyway, got a good batch of spice here and enough amount for doing different changas..
i won't give up..
 
Hupecat
#4 Posted : 8/20/2012 5:50:54 AM
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changalvia wrote:
This seems to happen to certain people every now and then. I have no idea why.

I have had the same problem for a couple of months but now it feels like the floodgates have 'opened' again.

Do you smoke weed? When I started with Dmt I had quit weed completely. Then, as my relationship with Dmt grew I found weed starting to creep back into my life and I stopped having visuals and that incredible feeling I used to get.

If you don't smoke weed... It could be a whole host of other things. Stay away from other drugs for at least 2-3 days, the dmt will appreciate you 'coming at it' with a more ritualistic approach.

Check out my last post in the general dmt experiences section, its not only about visuals either and maybe you need to experience some OTHER kind of deep experience before you can be let back in.

Good luck! Would like to hear how your progress is coming along...

Smile



might be that i have found the solution for my grey black filteryesterday did a huge vape again, and when closinmg my eyes i could have seen altjough just ver shortly some colorful beginning mandada.
but zack, there it was back again..some kind of guardian suddenly stood in front of my pointing to a sign on the site... i couldnt really read it or dont exactly remember, was a bit like one of thrse signs on chmical bottles,
"For full colored Spectrum plase call, yeah.. more i cannot remember.
i was already curious about the short videos, some spice and changa
suddenly show up on tv as a thank you.... never understood how thats been made..
saw that sign a 2nd time that night just briefly..
i try to find the entrance again......
 
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#5 Posted : 8/20/2012 1:05:32 PM

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Hupecat wrote:

i can high-dose, last time i tried 175 mg, nothing... (I vaped it through aVaporGenie with 10 meshes inside, so no spice might fall through before being vaporized,


By 10 meshes, I'm assuming you mean 10 screens. I think it says to use 10 screens somewhere on the internet (probably somewhere on the Nexus Rolling eyes ) but honestly it's a pretty bad idea. When you stack that many screens on top of each other, they actually kinda deform a bit which actually just lets the spice leak through more than if you used less screens. I would cut back heavily on the amount of screens and either get a copper mesh, or using an ash bed/herb bed in the vaporgenie as well. This happened to me where I started out using 10 screens and it has only gotten incredibly better and easier to blast off since I abandoned that notion long ago. 175mg is a lot! Also what kind of lighter are you using with the vaporgenie?
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#6 Posted : 8/20/2012 5:47:00 PM
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Global wrote:
Hupecat wrote:

i can high-dose, last time i tried 175 mg, nothing... (I vaped it through aVaporGenie with 10 meshes inside, so no spice might fall through before being vaporized,


By 10 meshes, I'm assuming you mean 10 screens. I think it says to use 10 screens somewhere on the internet (probably somewhere on the Nexus Rolling eyes ) but honestly it's a pretty bad idea. When you stack that many screens on top of each other, they actually kinda deform a bit which actually just lets the spice leak through more than if you used less screens. I would cut back heavily on the amount of screens and either get a copper mesh, or using an ash bed/herb bed in the vaporgenie as well. This happened to me where I started out using 10 screens and it has only gotten incredibly better and easier to blast off since I abandoned that notion long ago. 175mg is a lot! Also what kind of lighter are you using with the vaporgenie?


10 screens was just one of my tryouts....
actually there is a copper mesh ball inside it.. i also tried it with ash, also tried melting it slowly into some herb or in the meshball--
still nothing!
but its not only with the VG..
this is a permanent problem.. as i wrote, i tried every possibility of smokingg it

i really tried everything which might work...
 
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#7 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:09:15 PM

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wow 175mg in a gvg should be sending you on a tour of the hypersphere and beyond. This definitely sounds like a strange one.
 
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#8 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:10:50 PM
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Jarl Von Hoother wrote:
Hello, Hupecat this is becoming a bit a bummer for you, so I 'am going to reach for straws here, just as well as you would to kick start your ride. DMT is powerful, but nonetheless I think it requires an unyielding sense of knowing exactly what you came there for. This gaurdian could perhaps be your own ego projecting onto the screen. By ego I mean perhaps your own self that gaurds you from experience, but who knows. I belive that if you smoke it with a slight undertone of seriousness as to just being lead into the pearly gates by whim, you might end up a lot more personal-spiritual resources, to go even deeper, as you desire more and more to come out more learned, traveled, open ended. But seek a method in the shape of contented well being.

My reccomendations:

Meditate 30 minutes prior. Eyes closed. just focusing on breathing, but not trying to breath and hold sway against any thought forms. - Method

I think having lucid dreams helps greatly. Take a gram of Silene capensis - xhosa, and 12 intellect tree berries, before going to sleep for a few nights before can also show you what your unconscious really appreiciates.

Also abstain from other drugs, as they will cultivate a mental fog. This is serious stuff, with hard packed lessons.

If all else fails, aquire Syrian Rue. grind it up, put in espresso machine, or make a gross tea out of it. but first do your homework on MAOI's. They are GREAT potentiators, but if taken with SSRI's, alcohal, tobacco, or dairies, meats, or anything with high amounts of tyramine, you could accidentally end up in the ER. Not likely with Rue, but just in case. Syrian rue is made with Ayahuasca. google.

hoped this helped. Thank you



Hi.
Thanks for your comments..
i already went deeply into google getting information about MAOI's, and have quite some different ones here for preparing my different changa versions... but they still soak in IPA, for potentiation. and actually i am waiting for my order of pure harmalin/harmala chrystals..
already tried out using a bed of Chaliponga, i tried out mixing a bit of Passion Flower... maybe the harmala-content wasnt high enough..

havent tried out the Silence capensis yet,
what do you mean by "xhosa, and 12 intellect tree berries" i googled both and just found out xhosa is an african languafe the Bantus used to speak and do you mean the berries from Indian gooseberry (amla)???


but already thout of trying out having a cup of Caapi-Tea-before.. mybe ill give it a try tonight... got some Caapi vine left here..
concerning taking other drugs... i did a lot of stuff when i was younger, but the only thing i am left with is DMT and having a spliff of Weed every now and then.... not even daily anymore...

So, just ordered some Pharmahuasca caps, will tryout some soon, just to see if that might work..?
 
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#9 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:16:32 PM
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DeMenTed wrote:
wow 175mg in a gvg should be sending you on a tour of the hypersphere and beyond. This definitely sounds like a strange one.

i know 175 mg sounds scary if you know what 30 mg already could do to you...
but that was just a kind of desperate tryout... just wanted to know if my problem has something to do with dosing and tolerance....
 
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#10 Posted : 8/20/2012 6:17:20 PM
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DeMenTed wrote:
wow 175mg in a gvg should be sending you on a tour of the hypersphere and beyond. This definitely sounds like a strange one.


btw.. did it in 2 tokes.....!
 
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#12 Posted : 8/20/2012 7:25:27 PM

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I've had this happen to me too.

I even tried some huge oral doses and still got only threshold effects.

The best thing seems to be to give up trying for a while and then try again. If you want it too much, it just doesnt seem to happen.
 
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This type of thing has happened to me and many others however just a thought I had. Is there any chance your dmt isn't right? has anyone else tried this batch of spice and had good results?
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#14 Posted : 8/20/2012 9:32:21 PM
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olympus mon wrote:
This type of thing has happened to me and many others however just a thought I had. Is there any chance your dmt isn't right? has anyone else tried this batch of spice and had good results?



well, my first thought was, ok the stuff is shit i get, but i tried nearly every vendor on **, now extracted my own...
all my buddiess say, fantastic, its just me...

actually a have a clear white chrystal here, where i can scrape it off... should be amazing stuff, friends say, the best they ever had.....

 
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#15 Posted : 8/20/2012 9:44:38 PM
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Hiyo Quicksilver wrote:
/me points at the elephant in the room

*tick*tock*tick*tock*



??????
What do you mean by that????
 
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#16 Posted : 8/20/2012 11:11:35 PM

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A while back, I ran into some troubles where out of no where I lost the ability to go practically anywhere. I would load up incredible amounts (I'm normally hypersensitive), and hold my hits in for as long as possible, and would continually receive practically nothing. It turned out that my flame on my lighter had been severely reduced in intensity (I forget if it was simply running out or if the intensity had been turned down by accident), but as soon as I fixed the lighter, I had no troubles again. I somehow doubt this is the solution to your problem, but thought I would share.
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#17 Posted : 8/20/2012 11:38:25 PM
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Jarl Von Hoother wrote:
Hello, Hupecat this is becoming a bit a bummer for you, so I 'am going to reach for straws here, just as well as you would to kick start your ride. DMT is powerful, but nonetheless I think it requires an unyielding sense of knowing exactly what you came there for. This gaurdian could perhaps be your own ego projecting onto the screen. By ego I mean perhaps your own self that gaurds you from experience, but who knows. I belive that if you smoke it with a slight undertone of seriousness as to just being lead into the pearly gates by whim, you might end up a lot more personal-spiritual resources, to go even deeper, as you desire more and more to come out more learned, traveled, open ended. But seek a method in the shape of contented well being.

My reccomendations:

Meditate 30 minutes prior. Eyes closed. just focusing on breathing, but not trying to breath and hold sway against any thought forms. - Method

I think having lucid dreams helps greatly. Take a gram of Silene capensis - xhosa, and 12 intellect tree berries, before going to sleep for a few nights before can also show you what your unconscious really appreiciates.

Also abstain from other drugs, as they will cultivate a mental fog. This is serious stuff, with hard packed lessons.

If all else fails, aquire Syrian Rue. grind it up, put in espresso machine, or make a gross tea out of it. but first do your homework on MAOI's. They are GREAT potentiators, but if taken with SSRI's, alcohal, tobacco, or dairies, meats, or anything with high amounts of tyramine, you could accidentally end up in the ER. Not likely with Rue, but just in case. Syrian rue is made with Ayahuasca. google.

hoped this helped. Thank you


so wanna give it a try with a c of caapi tea befire smoking Spice..
How much gr of caapi vine would i need for a single cup of it, and what would be the best way to produce it?? i thought of just boiling it for an hour or so, filter the shreddered vine out and drink that cup.. how long would i need to wait fr smoking spice before the caapi would take an effect as an MAOI???
 
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Hupecat wrote:


well, my first thought was, ok the stuff is shit i get, but i tried nearly every vendor on **, now extracted my own...



Edited your post to remove vendor name. Please read the attitude page. Amongst other important things it says clearly:

Quote:

"No discussion on selling, buying, prices, trading or smuggling of drugs ".


Regarding not having effects, try the FAQ tips:

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m..._experiences_anymore_.3F
 
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Some medications decrease the effectiveness of hallucinogens. Have you recently been prescribed something?
We are surprisingly similar.
 
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#20 Posted : 8/30/2012 4:14:23 PM
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Philosopher wrote:
Some medications decrease the effectiveness of hallucinogens. Have you recently been prescribed something?

well, no, but i have some Valium lying around which i take 1, only one) every now and then, when having sleeping problems, which is like once a month or so, but i use them way longer and in way lower dose than i use dmt.
i bought a box of 30, more than 2 years ago, and there are still more than half left. most of them were given to some friend when he had insomnia...

really, i slowed down on taking drugs so much compared to earlier days...
like i write.. i will try to do some changa now, with harnmaline and harmala concentration on herbs and spice... maybe i will find the correct dosage with that...
btw..
i had an amazing breakthrough effect couple of days ago, with a mix of jungle, snow white, little yellow spice, all high-dose-mixed as a sandwich on a huge GlassBong.... waking up with a wet shirt, bong broken, and some bottles wiped from the table.....
but that shouldnt be the answer to myproblem....:-))))
 
 
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