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SWIM has tested this twice now.
It seems if someone in international waters were to take oral harmala, then inhale DMT freebase vapors as soon as they feel "something," then SWIM will get a longer more intense experience, along with some nausea.
SWIM has tried vaporizing harmala freebase, but it doesn't seem to want to. Using a ceramic hotplate a small amount of harmala freebase was slowly heated up. At a certain point the powder changed color to become almost black and smoke appeared. Before this point there was no vapor or smoke. Therefore it seems that harmala alkaloids will burn before they vaporize, leaving a black residue behind.
This smoke is active, according to SWIM, but it is very harsh and hard to keep in.
Therefore oral seems to be the way to go, except that it apparently lasts so long, around 8 hours.
But SWIM was very adamant that the effect of DMT was longer in duration and much more intense when taken about 40 minutes after taking harmala alkaloids orally. Only problem, according to SWIM, is that you have to put up with haramala for the next 6-7 hours.
YMMV
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100mg harmaline, 30mg THH orally are enough to significantly potentiate the effects of freebased DMT as well as increase the duration (not peak) to about 1 hour plus. Try taking less harmala alkaloids than you have been, my guess is that even less than those reported above are required for a significant effect. The added THH is a also very effective as it alone enhances the effects. Just try a variety of different doses its not like pharmahuasca where you will waste DMT if it doesn't work. Please report your findings.
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100mg harmaline, 30mg THH orally are enough to significantly potentiate the effects of freebased DMT as well as increase the duration (not peak) to about 1 hour plus. Try taking less harmala alkaloids than you have been, my guess is that even less than those reported above are required for a significant effect. The added THH is a also very effective as it alone enhances the effects. Just try a variety of different doses its not like pharmahuasca where you will waste DMT if it doesn't work. Please report your findings.
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Well I discussed this with SWIM and he is excited to experiment more with this.
He would like to try theobromine as well to see if that can affect vapourized DMT.
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Check out the theobromine thread for a report showing theo decreasing the visuals effects of freebased DMT. Please try and report.
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SWIM tried this again, only this time he took the Harmala alkaloids anally (up the ass, lol). It's not as bad as it sounds. SWIM mixed 150mg of alkaloids into about 2 ccs of distilled water, mixed it up as much as it would go, then added another 2 ccs of water and sucked it all up in a syringe. Stuck the syringe up his ass and pushed er in! 25 minutes later SWIM inhaled about 50 mg of DMT freebase, but he got too high to fully breathe in the whole thing... way too high! Talk about intense, says SWIM. Not only intense, it lasted much longer than without the MAOI. So this is the third time SWIM mixed MAOI with vaporized DMT and got amazing results. The best part is when SWIY takes the harmala anally (as an enema) it only lasts about 3 hours, and it's very fun!
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THH and the other harmala alkaloids are much more potent when taken sublingually. You only need about 5-10 mg of harmaline, or 10-20 mg of harmine or THH that way. Taken sublingually they are nearly 10 times as potent, and without all the side effects. Its a much cheaper way to go to potentiate the effects of smoked DMT. Harmaline and harmine extend the effects of smoked DMT and also make it 2-3 times stronger. THH extends it as well, doesn’t make it stronger though, but instead makes the experience much more controllable, clearer, and more energizing. It alters the trip in a very powerful way without muddying the water like harmine and especially harmaline tend to do. With THH and DMT you feel in control and as if you have endless amounts of energy to draw from. At the same time, THH makes you feel calm. You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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69ron wrote:THH and the other harmala alkaloids are much more potent when taken sublingually. You only need about 5-10 mg of harmaline, or 10-20 mg of harmine or THH that way. Taken sublingually they are nearly 10 times as potent, and without all the side effects. Its a much cheaper way to go to potentiate the effects of smoked DMT.
Harmaline and harmine extend the effects of smoked DMT and also make it 2-3 times stronger.
THH extends it as well, doesn’t make it stronger though, but instead makes the experience much more controllable, clearer, and more energizing. It alters the trip in a very powerful way without muddying the water like harmine and especially harmaline tend to do. With THH and DMT you feel in control and as if you have endless amounts of energy to draw from. At the same time, THH makes you feel calm. SWIM seconds this. SWIM's greatest smoking experiences have been those potentiated by sublingual THH. It gives one the time and clarity to really explore the power of the experience and--vastly more-so than straight spice--explore oneself. SWIM tends to undergo a sort of transmogrification with this method. SWIM would almost never smoke any other way. SWIM can't wait for the warm weather, so he can try this outdoors.
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It's quite a bit more intense anally too. I'm not sure if it's 10x but SWIM says definitely 2-3 times more intense than orally.
After you do such a small amount sublingually does SWIY notice any psychoactive effects from the MAOI? How long do these effects last?
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prey wrote:After you do such a small amount sublingually do you notice any psychoactive effects from the MAOI? How long do these effects last? They last a couple of hours, maybe 2-3 hours that way. The effects from the MAOI are hard to notice because such a small amount is being used. Out of the three, harmaline is most noticeable and THH is the least noticeable. However, when DMT is smoked, their impact on the experience is dramatic. Harmaline and harmine alter the DMT experience in a similar way making the experience more cloudy, but THH is almost completely the opposite, making the experience clearer than DMT smoked alone. Harmaline is the most psychoactive of the three. THH is the least psychoactive of the three. Harmaline is the most potent MAOI, while THH and harmine are about the same in that respect. Harmaline produces the foggiest experience. It has sedative effects and a marijuana-like stoning effect that’s very noticeable. Harmine is less sedating, and less stoning. THH isn’t stoning at all, and isn’t sedating either, it produces a mild euphoria and a mild state of mind similar to meditation (that’s about the best SWIM can describe it). You may remember me as 69Ron. I was suspended years ago for selling bunk products under false pretenses. I try to sneak back from time to time under different names, but unfortunately, the moderators of the DMT-Nexus are infinitely smarter than I am.
If you see me at the waterpark, please say hello. I'll be the delusional 50 something in the American flag Speedo, oiling up his monster guns while responding to imaginary requests for selfies from invisible teenage girls.
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Yes, an enema. Although only 4 ccs of liquid was used, which is not noticeable (you won't feel anything) says SWIM.
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