Once upon a time SWIM felt a calling deep inside his soul that told him he needed to begina a search/journey. This was a special search/journey that required special knowlege, tools, and allies. The story of SWIM and this searh/journey is a familliar one. Many of us know it inside and out.

With the rapid rise in popularity of DMT and the advent of the www.dmt-nexus.me, more and more of our younger/newer members dont even know the story I am speaking of.

Most of our newer members came here to the nexus because they want to make or extract the medicine that they tried once at a party or rave. They were given this experience by someone who said- hey, wana try a really cool drug?

Drunk at a party, who is gonna say, NO? Not many.

I consider myself to be in a well connected tribe/crew of psychonauts and I have found myself to be witness to a DMT explosion. Its everywhere its so easy to come by. I can get it for free!

LEO are not cool with the situation at hand. Record ammounts of MHRB is being seized at the border. Does everyone understand what that means? Yea, okay it means record ammounts are getting through no doubt, but what it really means is that with time, its going to become almost impossible to get MHRB.

There has beeen allot of chatter/posting about native grasses and that is good. Switching to grasses sends a message to LEO and that message is- We will not be denied! Take away our bark andd we'll plant soooo much damn grasss that you'll have to post/fence every grassy patch in America!

This is war my brothers!

SWIM has been doing allot of thinking lately about whats going on out there. Many questions are on SWIM's mind. Like, for example-

What if this website and others like it are shut down or forced by LEO to voluntarily close?

What if?

Do you, brother nexian, have a contingency plan?

IF THERE IS NO NEXUS, HOW DO WE KEEP THE STRUGGLE ALIVE?

Better yet, even if this site and others dont get shut down, how can we form or create a better community?

SWIM has been thinking about a simple little operation that could possibly compliment this web site AND assist in the selection of responsible people who can help strengthen our numbers and ensure our survivability.

This is just an idea that SWIM has been chewing on for a while now. Its only in the pre planning phase. I wanted to post SWIM's idea here so we can get some valuable feedback regarding SWIM's idea.

Keep in mind the story at the beginning of the post and remember, That story is no longer the norm.

Operation Going Rogue-

SWIM asked me to pass on another little story to you to help explain what going rogue actually consists of.

Once upon a time.... about a year after SWIM's journey to find the molecule was mission accomplished, SWIM was introduced to a super wonderful human being whom he developed a friendship with. This friendship turned into more of a brotherhood and one day at a festival SWIM decided that the molecule should be shared with this friend, or at least offered.

This friend was a member of a tribe/crew that consisted of a couple of dozen members, most of whom did DMT regularly. All of these people were getting their spice gifted to them from SWIM. This tribe/crew was geographically located abot two hour drive for SWIM, so after a year SWIM decided to take on an apprentice from that tribe/crew in order to teach the ways. SWIM also introduced this close friend to the wwww.nexus and that brother is now a full respected nexus member.

SWIM felt then and still feels now that the website alone isnt good enough. An online teacher has nothing on a brother who knows his shit. A teacher.

A teacher who knows his shit and has his basic teks down doesnt need the the web site.

After about a year, SWIMS good friend had gotten into the Nexus membership, obtained supplies, extracted great spice, and made wonderful Changa.

The best part of the story is that now that tribe/crew is now being provided for by SWIM's good friend.

Wait! It gets even bettter! SWIM's buddy now has his own apprentice.

and SWIM has a new apprentice.

Does everyone get what SWIM is suggesting here?

SWIM is not saying to go out and teach the world how to extract DMT. SWIM is not suggesting giving DMT to people who are not mature enough or responsible enough.

SWIM is suggesting that members who know what they are doing should find an apprentice. Someone you know and trust. Someone who can pass on the knowlege. Someone who will protect and respect what we are doing here.

The final lesson any apprentice is given is howw to find a new apprentice. Get it?

The nexus website is the most wonderful resource out there. It is the DMT bible.

Without the apprentice the website is worthless.

There is a tiered structure that should be here here. Yes?

teachers, web site, apprentices, and users.

SWIM sees Mods, web site, and users.

In SWIM's humble opinion the nexus community should add another layer to the way we operate so that we ensure not only the survivability of our craft but to guarantee that it spreads like a flu, like a pandemic with no cure!

SWIM has many written details as to how this could or would look like if executed.

SWIM has chosen at this time to just mention this idea and sit back and see how it is received.

SWIM thinks this should be taken to another level.

Nexians the damage has already happened. LEO is already working against us. DMT info websites are already feeling the heat, including our nexus.

Think about it.

What say you?

This thought has been on the forefront of my mind for over a year now. I assure you, Ice House, I will do everything it takes to prevent this from happening. There are even whispers of some kind of physical copy of the Nexus which could be passed on person to person (think bootable CD with the entire DMT-Nexus corpus).

You're a soldier who knows how to fight a war -- I'm just some geek trying to do what little I can. Glad to have strong figures like you out on the front-line. The fight is just beginning, in my opinion, and I'm proud to have people like you on our side.

SWIM, has mixed feelings about this.

I like the idea of a CD or maybe flash drive that could be handed down with a pay it forward rule.

I hear you, Ice house, but i still do not fully understand what you are trying to communicate.

There are surely forces working against the nexus, everyone who isn't naive knows that. Good to remind us of that though. Then, what are you suggesting? To work harder on building real life tribes? I guess this is already happening but don't forget that this is a pretty hard task to accomplish for many. I don't have friends who are really interested in it. Well, they show *some* interest, but they do not want to follow through. A while back i opened a thread about outreaching to like minded people ...but it's hard man, it's hard because there are many obstacles to be overcome:

-paranoia
-lack of suitable persons
-social anxiety
-lack of courage
-lack of transportation
-lack of money
-...

The nexus is so successful because it offers a way to overcome these obstacles. IT is not easy to translate this into real life. But one can and should try. If i see it correctly, someone took the first issue of my entheogen bulletin from the place i laid it out. So this is a small step for me.

Just put a .rar on bittorrent and it will be out there for a very long time.

You could also print a book - very cheap now with print-on-demand. The First Amendment should take care of that for the US residents out there. (Just pity the rest of us who live under draconian censorship regimes.) (The PGP story is a pretty interesting one in this regard.)

As for continuation of supply - the answer is to switch to another plant source, preferably ubiquitous and native and unarguably a legitimate part of any garden. Aussies already have the solution in numerous Acacia species. Whilst you could get away with growing them in the US, banning them there wouldn't be hard- many are invasive pests already there after all. But you guys have native Desmanthus spp. to play with. If/when MHRB is banned, time to take up where you left off a few years ago with local species.

Look on the bright side. It's more rewarding to develop a relationship with the living plant, by growing it.

Devil's advocate.

Three points he has:

- apprenticeship won't help if MHRB is banned.

- online Nexus archives can reach much large audience than SWIMs.

- MHRB extraction is not that complex that you should need a physical walkthrough to do it. That in itself can be a test of "apprentice" material.

This (informal apprenticeship with no attitude of me Enlightened Journeyman/Foreperson, you dumb kid) has been going on since way before the Nexus or DMT-World was around and will continue after it ends. It's just that ever since easy extraction teks became widely available in the early and mid 2000's there has been tremendous growth, including here. Getting sucked up into a tight knit community can make one think nothing of matter is going on outside that community. I believe this is incorrect.

Nonetheless, read posts, take time to read what folks say in chat. For everyone who has found their own way, others have worked studying and extracting under others. Perhaps not a formal apprenticeship, but a definite passing on of the knowledge. I have personally and in person taught a lot of people to extract safely. Then they are off on their way and doing the same. AND creating heck of good art and music too.

The only permanence in this Universe is impermanence. Nexus will some day not be here. I'm hoping that day is decades away but anything could happen. That will NOT at all stop what is going on, not at all.

I love this post, but I think it is a well versed/written repetition of what's been going on and what will continue to go on . . . .Police States or a lack of DMT-Nexus will NOT stop it. No way.

This is a very good idea. I expect that plant sources like MHRB could indeed become very scarce. I personally have stocked a strategic supply of plant material that will help me through at least the first few years, when indeed these plants would become prohibited, and i´m following all the developments with grasses with great interest (although it seems to me that at this point, grasses are still an inferiour source of DMT, compared to MHRB).

I like the idea of aprenticeship. I have introduced a number of people to ayahuasca and i´m sure that at some point, they will introduce yet others, etc.

I remember from Nelson Mandela´s autobiography, that in the struggle against apartheid, the ANC movement was declared a criminal/terrorist organisation. What they did, in order to keep the organisation alive, was to organise a network structure: in every town and every neighbourhood, there was an ANC-representative who would spread information to the people of his own 'constituancy'. This helped keaping the organisation alive when it went underground. Every member only needed to know a few names.

We could do something simmilar at the DMT-nexus site: name one person who would be responsible for all communication within this persons area. When the nexus would be shut-down, suffer another attack or would be inaccessable for whatever reason, these persons could be the communication line between one area and the other area´s where nexus members are living.

If only finding those with similar interests and approaches to these substances, specifically DMT, were easier to find! Sure I have initiated a few, one who keeps coming back for more, and is really into it, but hasn't got the means to extract for them self yet... I guess that one is better than none though, right?

I keep trying to subtly drop it into conversation when making new acquaintances, it surprises me how underground it still is for the most part. Even my friends who have had amazing life affirming experiences are reluctant to extract for themselves. I certainly don't want to ram it down people's throats, but I often feel very alone in my endeavors.

On the other hand, quite a few of my festival going friends are reporting people selling 'hits' like they were nitrous balloons, which I think is entirely wrong - THIS is the real threat to our precious bark at the moment I think. Some guy comes around offering a '5 minute trip' and think it will be a walk in the park, only to get their arses handed to them on a self dribbling jeweled platter, with a side order of existential terror. That person then ends up in the medics tent freaking out, the police start to take more interest, and POOF, MHRB is off the market

I do have a few friends who are waiting for the right time to try, have been offered it at a festival, and decided against it after some of the things (good & bad) that I have told them about the Spice. If I can install that sort of 'gut feeling' in a few I guess I am doing a good job, particularly when they partake with me in optimum set & setting and have a great experience. I do wish there were some sort of psychonaut club that I could go to and chat ad nauseam about this stuff...Nexus is fantastic, but it aint face to face, real interaction...

I will watch this thread keenly. You guys have my support.

Okay abut 12hrs have gone by and SWIM already has some wonderful feedback from some key members that has realy helped out alllot. Thank you!!!!!

SWIM would like to start off by saying that he does not believe that going rogue should be a www.dmt-nexus.me sponsored or sanctioned event. SWIM believes the nexus wiki is our bible and the chems and mods are already the special advisors to nexian members in the field attempting to form these relationships SWIM calls apprenticeships.

SWIM is in no way suggesting that the hierarchy or organization of the nexus be changed at all to aaccomidate going rogue. SWIM believes that there should NOT be any official statement of support for going rogue by the nexus web site. SWIM believes its okay to chat and post amongst membership and leadership, but, SWIM believes that our beloved leader has enough problems and complaints on his plate already and SWIM doesnt want the nexus being accused of attempting to establish an army of DMT chemists who have been given a mission of waging war against laws and law enforcement.

What SWIM is attempting to do is to decentralize the EU (Entheogenic University). Fragment our membership and organization in a way that makes it a little more difficult for LEO to investigate and easier for the apprenticeship program to happen and reduce the volume of traffic and liability that the nexus may or maynot already have in an illicit activity.

SWIM feels that our EU plan and mission is spot on. SWIM believes that EU could be more effective used as a reference database that is primarily accessed by teachers for use in the field by our teachers and apprentices.

SWIM would love to answer a few questions and make a few comments on your replys to SWIMs post.

@archaic_architect- CDs and flashdrives? SWIM ays HELL YES! Absolutely. And these data storage devices should be updated as often as updates come out. The updates to the wiki should be catalouged so that every member in the field knows that he or she has the updated most current info. What you mentioned in your post is part of what motivates swim.
WE NEED REDUNDANCY!

@obliguhl-Brother I agree with you, it is hard. SWIM is not saying we need to build tribes of DMT wielding shamans who teach their tribes? or something like that? lol if anyone out there can do that please feel freee to.lol. obliguhl I have read most all of your threads you have ever written and most all of your posts also, you motivate SWIM! SWIM respects your opinion, but to answer one of your questions I say NO! SWIM is not asking or suggesting to start forming tribes.

obliguhl, what SWIM is suggesting is, that every dedicated nexian who has successfully extracted DMT and knows his or her way around the wiki take time to find just one person.
Just one person that you know and trust and you begin to teach. Cant teach? then share, but the end result after a period of time is that you have this one person who is now faced with the challenge of finding a person to conduct the same training. And so on, and so on, and so on.

going rogue is not greedy or impatient. One soul at a time!

Our operations in the field should not be in any way shape or form connected and if possible not dependent on each other. we are secret cells or pairs of individuals who operate in secrecy. We have a very high standard when seleceting apprentices.

Anyone can get a dmt-nexus membership, including LEO. Not just anyone can be an apprentice.

@obliguhl
-paranoia
-lack of suitable persons
-social anxiety
-lack of courage
-lack of transportation
-lack of money
-...

Yes, these are all obstacles for all of us. Some of us are more fortunate than others with resources. Important here to remember, to focus on, is just do what you can and do it in the field as often as you can. Security and safety first! Start with a simulation first. Take baby steps. Security of going rogue is paramount.

@r2pi- I am not very familliar with bittorrent, if it works to spread the info then SWIM likes it, HOWEVER, we do have the nexus and the nexus wiki and the mods and chems, so the infrastructure is already in place. I do like redundant systems though.

r2pi I agree with you with regards to DMT containing sources, you Aussies are spoiled rotten, lol. I will mention here that we are very close to a major break through with grasses and an unlimited supply of or sacred molecule. It is being worked on by many. I expect that you will see full on extraction reports with photos in the wiki by years end. There is alllot of grass out there growing around America, waving in the breezee like green wheat. This is another going rogue task. Finding and planting the seeds.

Want to eat fruit next year?Plant a tree today!!!!!!!

@shaolin- appprenticeship will help even more if MHRB is baned. Apprenticeship will cover grasses, how to grow, how to ID, and how to extract. A GOOD teacher has good resources. MHRB via illegal means may have to be an option.
shaolin the nexus website doees reach more people. SWIM does not want to get rid of the nexus. SWIM wants a sustainable nexus. SWIM wants the nexus to be used as an EU, as a resource center for teachers. SWIM wants to cut down on the LEO who joins. SWIM wants a contingency plan in case our beloved nexus goes down or we cant access it.

@purges-

We have alll heard stories like this. purges I got news for you, The cat is out of the bag!LEO knows whats up. 1 more incident or 1 million more incidents doesnt relly matter. The war is on. The war is not just against MHRB, its against our freeedom of information. purges I know you get what SWIM is suggesting. Even if we voluntarily shut down the nexus and we established nexus members stop extracting it doesnt really matter. The damage is done and the war agianst us is on.

Sooooo what are we gonna do about it.

SWIM is suggesting going rogue. Compliment the nexus web site. Use the wiki as a field manual. train our troops and ensure a sustainable supply of DMT and trained people to extract it.

SWIM likens the going rogue model to what special forces do. Teach the idigenous people the skills and allow them to help spread the news and act locally.

We have to think locally regarding this matter.

We are way too centeralized.

Thank you! Sincerely for your input.

sorry for the poor grammar.
more info to follow.

Respectfully,
SWIM

Ice House,

Just keep in mind you're posting this in a publicly visible forum. You have, de facto, already made an official announcement about this.

-a1pha

I get what you are saying a1pha.

But lets not forget, I'm just a goofball minion here on the nexus.

I was refering to stickies or aditions to official nexus policy.

I respectfully diagree with you. I am not the owner operator or a Mod.

I am a knucklehead/goofball with a bunch of crazy, stupid, outlandish ideas!

P.S.

All I will say atm is that I think anyone who really cares at this time about DMT should be growing the grasses. It is our duty. It seems like few are doing this..and many people repeat the same old stuff about it being inferior etc..well go try it yourself! The reports are out there and not all of them make it sound inferior..your not getting 1% like mimosa but you can grow so much more grass than you can mimosa..you just need the right species and strains. This is where we have to start out because this very well might be where we are going. If we cant order other plants and you dont have mimosa or psychotria etc growing what are you going to do? I will grow every single high alkaloid grass I can get my hands on, and I will give clones to others.

E.O.T.O. Each one teach one. I personally have taught 3. And have 2 more that want to learn also.

Thank You.

This is what SWIM was suggesting.

Big Inhale eh?

Each one teach one! I love it!

Thank you for your effort and understanding.

sincerely,

SWIM

I feel that really getting a grass/desmanthus tek out is crucial to this plan, if we don't get a native source then all this information is useless and may even work against us in terms of keeping our source materials. More people extracting = higher chance of things going wrong/media attention = faster crack down on MHRB.

Yes sir Big Inhale it is. I have been on this site since late 07. Just havent been that active in the past year. But that is changing. Ready to help out the community again. This idea of your is a huge step in the right direction. How easy is it to start growing Mimosa trees in the US? what would be the best states for this? Also we cant forget about Chacruna that shouldnt be to hard to start growing everywhere.

I believe very much in E.O.T.O, but who we teach needs to be approached with caution. I truly, truly do not believe that we will provide any benefit by growing The Nexus. As a culture grows it brings in more and more of it's destructive related species into it's ecosystem.

I must think on this one, but I don't believe that growing our numbers is the key to success. In fact, I believe that growing our numbers could be the key to our destruction. I "think" I believe that the key to success for us is to have a small number of intelligent, skilled, and dedicated individuals working towards a common goal, and sharing their discoveries with like minded people (this is where Ice House's Tribe idea makes sense to me).

Getting everyone and anyone with some interest in DMT involved will most certainly steer us head on into a wall of destruction. A slow silent attack is the most effective route IMHO. I actually believe the instantaneous information exchange of the internet has initially helped our cause, but is now simply diluting it. The best knowledge is hard to find, and the easiest information to find is (or nearly is) garbage. (i.e. youtube, shroomery, drugs, etc.).

My best suggestion is to kill the mass distribution of the information. Shut down worldwide broadcast for a while. Allow those that care, to work in quiet undisturbed cells with underground connections to trusted other cells. Bubble the knowledge from the salt of the earth. Let it spread slowly. There is no rush in the grand scheme of things.

I am all for maintaining the nexus as it is, but I will not deny that we are potentially doing more harm than good, simply due to the fact that we are disseminating information to to those who do not truly care (or care for the wrong reasons). Has the Nexus run its course? Probably not. Should the Nexus change its mission / directive / goal? Perhaps...

Ice House - I completely believe in your noble cause as you know more than anything. I really just question the approach. I don't think the world is ready for an assault on its values. I think this kind of thing needs to be nurtured.

My two pennies...

-idt

E.O.T.O ftw...

This is actually how it always has been. Shaman attracted apprentices and lineages were handed down master to master... alchemist to alchemist.

I wouldn't be too alarmist about the situation now. While it is certainly true that spice is seeing a resurgence of interest atm, it has had heydays before... and the powers that be are not just becoming aware of it. They are actually deathly afraid of it, as it throws a real left-handed monkey wrench into their whole "war on drugs" (misnomer if there ever was one)... there are people who go to war while on drugs, though. hehehehe

This is simply because the existence of an endogenic alkaloid like this seriously calls into question the government's right to control its possession. According to some interpretations of the current law, any human being on earth could be arrested for possession of this "controlled substance." I always thought it would be pure discordian comedy to go and arrest some high-profile politicians for possession to drive home the pure ridiculousness of the situation.

Back to the topic, though...

1) I say let's master the grasses for sure.
2) Chacruna grows really well in Hawaii, and I am sure there are other regions where it will flourish. It seems to like volcanic soil quite a bit. Not surprising seeing as it is basically identical to the coffee bush.
3) Try not to freak out.

On 3... It is likely that the popularity of the drug will fade as people who are anxious to try it actually do. This is not an addictive substance. It is a truly rare freak who gets moarish about spice. Furthermore, it generally scares the shit out of noobs so the repeat business is not going to be very high. I give this wave about another year or two, and we will drop down to a more reasonable community population and plateau. Those who stay with it will generally be of a fairly high level, and the future seems to be in good hands in terms of knowledgable psychonauts. Much better than it was in the 80's or 90's.

Also, I have a feeling the Drug War will be ending in the next 5 years or so. Marijuana is a an ass crack away from national legalization in the US. Recent polls show 57% approval. From there, with the central lynchpin of the farce of a policy gone, it will not stand very long. (More than half of all 1.4 million drug arrests in the states are for simple possession of weed)

Hang in there brothers and sisters. We may have some bumps in the road, but nothing we can't handle. Things were much worse for us before. 17 years ago when I was circulating the 215 petition, the idea of Medical Marijuana was a fanciful pipe dream.