Hello friends! First time posting here, this place is a great resource.

So I have several trips under my belt now, first ones went horribly (wasted a lot, burned plastic taste etc) but I think my technique is getting better.

So yeah, I've just taken the bat VG out for a test run and things went better than expected, yet I still feel like I've just touched the tip of the iceberg as far as the experience goes.

I'll just summarize what I felt here (as best I can):

-Took 3 consecutive hits: felt a tingly feeling in throat in first but seems to have vaped nicely, second felt/saw the room ripple a bit and felt a body high, third one I had trouble feeling my breath inhaling (knew the air was there but felt like emptiness lol) and I also burned my finger a bit setting the thing down (not bad).
-Felt all the patterns and euphoria LSD-like but the same thing as my previous trips on dmt.
-What made this time special was amidst all the rolling fractal imagery I felt a feminine presence beckoning to me in the form of a ball of 'energy'. It was tracking its own path in the waves of fractals and my minds eye was entranced in it (tracking it around).
-This trance like state was really fleeting and as soon as I opened my eyes I was back in my room and the visuals started dying down.

So this is the only time so far that I felt a psychological bond with something from DMT. It was only for a fleeting moment but it surpassed the peak of my past experiences with LSD by far. Despite this, I was still questioning whether this was a true "breakthrough" or not a few times during the trip.

A few questions:

1. I was still pretty aware of my surroundings (I was under the impression that a breakthrough is beyond that) but of course I closed my eyes willingly knowing that I'd be entranced for a bit. Does this sound familiar?

2. I had music playing in the background and felt like it really enhanced the experience. People tell me silence is best, is this always the case?

3. Any tips on breathing technique? I always feel like I struggle getting a full breath near the end due to air not feeling like air anymore, haha.

Any insights/tips appreciated!



TL;DR - Most 'sentimental' experience so far, not sure if breakthrough (question: What constitutes a breakthrough?)

You feel as though you've just touched the tip of the iceberg because well, you have. The more you practice your technique and methods the more you will realize just how incredibly deep the rabbit hole goes. It sounds like you are starting to get the hang of it but I wouldnt say that your trip sounds like a full on breakthrough. I used to have a lot of trips similar to the one you described. Some nice, some not so nice. When a "breakthrough" happens there is no question in your mind it was indeed a breakthrough.

I wouldn't even put any weight on having a breakthrough, instead I'd just try to let go, take it all in, and accept all that is. It sounds as though you are on the right track. If you have not yet done so I reccomend reading the link in House's signature. It is a very good diagram/how to if you will. His name is not actually seen and spelt as "house" it is actually this emoticon: ۩


Happy tripping
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Basically you were pre-breakthrough. The more times you dose the more familiar you will get with the "door" to the other side, letting go, and what size doses work for you. You do not need large doses to breakthrough. Quite a few on here breakthrough on ~27mg.


One thing I learned after a while is that what works for you may not work for someone else. I quit telling other people "how they should use DMT". I recommend you experiment with different techniques. This is not an exact science. Some things may require a bit of creativity on your part.


Yes I do have tips on breathing technique, stop worrying about it. That is one of the things I am still kind of learning how to do. I often feel as if I am holding my breathe or trouble breathing smoothly. Although this is not the case. You may have heightened breathing but if you think about any of your bodies functions you are not letting go, and will have a more difficult time breaking through.




A breakthrough is basically your energy (hypothetically) leaving your body and ascending to hyperspace. Or a dissasociative feeling of your body and visualization of another "place". You will know when this happens. I have heard people say you open your eyes and you don't see anything different than with your eyes closed.

Welcome fellow traveler! Nexus is indeed a fine resource - the best of its kind in my (and many other people's) opinions! It sounds like you are on the right track to your first 'breakthrough' - which in my book is total immersion in the experience. You'll know when it happens. It is utterly flabbergasting and nothing can really prepare you for it

Now from a recent report on here, apparently the bat VG is not the best tool for vaping DMT, but can apparently have decent effects if set up correctly.

In answer to your questions:

1. IME, it doesn't really matter whether your eyes are closed or open once you get past a certain point (dosage) - for me, anywhere over ~22mg taken in one hit and held for 10-20 seconds will be fully immersive. I usually go for 25mg, 30 if I feel like pushing the boat out. I tip my hat to anyone that ventures beyond 35 with any kind of regularity (and vapes it correctly, holds it in for 10-20 secs etc)

2. For me, I find music grounds me during the experience, or just distracts me - if I want to go deep, which IMO DMT is for, I go in silence. Although I imagine something like THIS would be an excellent accompaniment to Spice travel...

3. Yes. This will probably sound pretty obvious, but practise taking deep breaths. Fill your lungs to capacity and then exhale completely. Then try again, but slower. You want deep, long, slow inhalations, and deep, long, slow exhalations. This will prepare your lungs for a big ole dosage off DMT vapor. Focus only on your breath. Practice this for 5-10 mins before launch, with practice you should be able to get the entire dose inside you within about 10 seconds, and you should have a nice steady heartbeat and plenty of oxygen in you to be able to hold onto the hit for a decent length of time. It is also great to do this without DMT by the way, very calming and centering.

The best thing you can do is experiment with different sets, different smoking techniques and also dosages. Just push the boundaries slightly each time and you will be rewarded. Another thing to consider is that DMT seems to have its own agenda, sometimes low doses are all that's needed for complete anihalation, other times even a larger dose will produce minimal effects. It's weird, weird stuff

Yes, aiming to get the whole hit in one go (bong or GVG imho) takes the cake. The intensity can be so quick (imho) in comparison to just smoking out of a typical glass pipe of some sort. So quick- that-it's pretty much an instantaneous onset/full immersion and before you can even get out "woah" your completely GONE...breaking through the breakthrough. Life changing stuff to the heaviest degree.

Cool. I'm definitely going to give it all I got next time... making sure I get full breaths.

Wish me luck.

The strong dose mg range + optimal 1-breath-held indefinitely (as long as you) can give rise to an experience that transcends everything that we thought we knew (or had a good idea) about the experience the molecule gives rise to. If you don't have a GVG....use a glass bong or even acrylic would do. If you SLOWLY pull the cherry on a cone of sandwiched dmt in a bong.... hold on to your seat hehe.

And i'm not saying that this is HOW it needs to be done, but just stating my perspective on whats optimal to me. I hope you have a great experience and be sure to write a report. I'm curious to know how it goes!

I'll note that with the bat VG (which is the only one I have) I don't think it is possible to take a massive breakthrough hit because it takes a couple seconds to heat up to vaporizing temp.

EDIT: I'll definitely post back something regarding my experience if I do end up transcending reality, even with my recent mild trip I was still left wondering for 10 mins what I felt. I can't even imagine what the full extent will leave me with!