Hello.
I will not go into much detail about myself, however I want to tell you my yesterdays trip and hear your opinion about it.
I was experimenting with various psychedelic/dissociative research chemicals over past 2 months, however this is the weirdest trip I experienced so far..

my evening started like this:

• 35 mg 4-ACO-DPT (intranasally)
  
• 2 x 800mcg 25D-Nbome blotters (buccally)
  

after a few hours I took 0.5 mg xanax and some alcohol (I get muscle twitches from 4-ACO-DPT, that helped)

after a few hours I took some more:

• ~60 mg 4-ACO-DPT (intranasally) (I had to finish the compound, because I did not like it very much)
  
• 2 (or 4, cannot remember now) x 800mcg 25D-Nbome blotters (buccally)
  
• 1 blotter that I had not tried before, it presumably should have been LSD, but I do not know what it was (I think LSD does not exist in my country)
  

trip was pretty good and mellow.. on the comedown I thought it was a good idea to smoke some DMT..
at first I was smoking average hits every 5 minutes or so, started seeing some nice eye closed visuals, faces in tv were becoming very interesting.

then things around me started changing forms: remote control was changing, I have not seen such remotes and I could not pause the program on media player; one tree that I have, changed to another form every 3 seconds, I have not seen such trees in my life (I tried to film it, as I looked at it and at phone's screen, it was changing to craziest forms, but later when I reviewed the record, nothing was happening (silly me)); my hands were changing into various forms too, like alien arms, it was hilarious. It was like hyperspace came to my flat.

then I decided to go to warm bath, smoke some more DMT, meditate, observe close eyed visuals and whatnot.. I took a big hit of DMT (most probably that most of it was jungle spice) and I got to some crazy trip.

I literally lost my human body and got to another universe. This is very hard to explain. I became something else in somewhere else, it was pretty scary. I thought I was done. I cannot describe the most intense part, but after that (I do not know how long it lasted, but it seemed like an eternity) I woke up naked on the floor in the living room and started getting my body back, but it was not my flat anymore, it seemed like I am in another universe, everything changed around me. My body was different!! I was transformed into some kind of alien, it was a scariest experience of my life. I thought I lost everything that I knew and I will be stuck in this universe with this alien body. I was very sad and started of thinking of ways how to kill myself, because that was pure madness, I could not have been able such life (but I could not think quick enough.. if I had a gun in my flat I would probably shot myself).

after 10 minutes my flat and I started to transform back to the reality I always known. I was very relieved and now I love this universe more than ever. I do not want to go back to that twisted reality/world..


I wanted to ask if any of you had similar experiences? I never thought this could happen..


Thank you in advance!

I think the majority of us have had very similar experiences. Sounds like an interesting day you had

I love that you tried to film your trippy tree with your phone, lol.

Welcome to the Nexus

erm, that's a LOT of drugs. why are you surprized when you have a trip like that? what else did you expect?

Well, I am one of those persons who needs much higher psychedelic doses to reach the desirable effects.

I thought it would be a calmer experience. Learned my lesson.

DMT has various different ways of attaching itself to the mechanism of other substances in the way its experienced.

Laying RC's is also going to have unexpected results, of which not many people will be able to relate. Throwing DMT on top of that? Yeah that's a bit of a game changer.

In my experience, DMT can vary in its effects even long after other substances have at least seemingly worn off.

Thats kinda what I was thinking...

When I was younger I would take anything and everything without question. I'd mix and match and I honestly don't know how I didn't pull a Heath Ledger somehow.

Now I know better. Less is more.

My own humble advice would be to take a little psychedelic break if you're finding you need more to reach tripping levels. ESPECIALLY with RC's. Best to not even mix them unless you know specifically what they can do on their own. Name of the game is harm reduction...

Be safe and come back from your trips! Losing control is the scariest thing at the same time as being the most exciting. Moderation is key. If I smoke some jwh-081 my fun mellow time can crash down before me if I add a couple mg of 122...

Its best to keep things separate IMO. It doesn't have to be that way for everyone, but be careful. ESPECIALLY with RC's. Keep in mind that WE are the guinea pigs here. There hasn't yet been years of study on the effects these RC's have on animals let alone our own neurological systems.

Not trying to lecture you but perish the thought of you doing something really stupid cuz you're chasing a high....

The OP should REALLY read this thread: https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=25363

Regarding the first post:

1- It is not showing any of the respectful insightful prudent substance use we believe in, in fact it talks about a pretty reckless use of substances and dosing, and the first post includes very serious comments (how for example the OP would have literally killed himself if he had a gun, and of course become news and called even more attention to the community)
2- It does not show any disclaimer regarding potential problems with RCs (unknown long term effects, possible mislabelling, questionable sources etc),
3- There is no mention integration, no sign of learning from the experience and thus trying to make sure others dont follow the same steps

If Identity888 does not change the direction of his posts and this thread clearly towards our established attitude and considering the above points, Im closing this thread down.

Sounds like you need to re-evaluate the reason you are taking these substances.

As I'm sure you discovered psychedelics aren't for messing around, they can seriously delude your sense of reality especially high doses and combinations. If you are looking to experiment I'd suggest dramatically lowering your dose and not going for any combinations until you are confidant you can handle yourself on them. It is serious business when you say if you had a gun you would have shot yourself and looking for ways to kill yourself.

Please be responsible.

I think some good advice had already been offered in previous posts, the only thing i have to add is be careful with those nbomes. Their lasting after affects and tolerance, and unknown side affects made me re-evaluate how often (if at all) i was going to use them. Dropping them like their acid, is a very bad idea, and you should never have to guess how many you took in retrospect.

Personally i wouldn't combine them with anything. RC, more specifically nbome combos just seem kind of reckless to me imho, but ymmv. I've just heard some bad stories (psychologically & physically) healthwise from people doing excessive amounts of them that seem rather unsettling, some requiring hospitalization from liver enzyme imbalances.

Not trying to scare you, just be careful. Nbome's have lasting after affects that persist for weeks ime. That alone prevents me from taking them any more often than a few times a year.

Perhaps you should use this substance with more respect.
For one, you say your taking hits
whilst watching the t.v.?
Your environment is everything.
And I also wouldn't condone vaping one minute
and then a little bit later doing it again,
as in my opinion it goes against the nature of DMT.
But that's just me, and I'm very ceremonial with my use.

Thank you for your replies and advices.

about the doses: I need much higher doses to trip and it is not a physical tolerance issue. I would call it psychological tolerance, if there is such a thing. I guess I need a really long break from psychedelics.

about the suicide thing: it was a really scary experience, the thought that I will stay in alien body in strange reality was unbearable and drove me a little crazy. I think I exaggerated a bit when I was writing the post, as I was still shocked.

about the RCs: I know that there are unknown risks, but at the moment I don't feel that they are doing any harm to me or my sanity (but they are doing, aren't they?). I do not recommend to anyone to take such substances like I did, because I react to them very individually. Be aware.

about the integration, learning from the experience: what is the use of putting psychedelic experience to words? I take it as just an experience, after which you are more aware, perceptive, emotionally stable. I literally do not have the ability to express most of my trips (but I am good at some few other things..).

Everything in life is a tool for good or evil it just depends on how and why you use it. The more powerful the tool the more responsible we must be with its use. Suicide as an escape from intense pain or fear is a common reaction in beings who believe there is no other choice. Everything has balance and the balance to the ending of the dmt experience you described was the greater appreciation you felt for the less intense comfortable reality we float upon the surface of. I really hope you have learned the value of this world now after diving so deeply into others. Contrast defines.

Over the years I have learned the hard way that when it comes to synthetic or semi-synthetic psychedelics....that LESS is MORE.

In my opinion, chemical psychedelics are notorious for only providing people with
"crazy pieces" of the puzzle instead of the whole picture....this generally leads to confusion and horror.

DMT and Ayahuasca have a great way of protecting the psyche from unnecessary trauma somehow even in extremely intense situations.....

Whereas Man Made psychedelics will not think twice about pushing you way beyond what you are capable of handling....In other words they can submerge you too deep in the unknown too suddenly and furiously...and this can sometimes be extremely damaging and traumatic to the delicate sensitivities of our human awareness...


Please...be more careful...and remember...even if you ARE an alien..so what?
That's no reason to freak out....I personally love being an alien, I see it as no big deal.

I agree thoroughly with endlessness. I don't feel like a post like this has any room to be on this forum. In regards to you saying that RC's.aren't having any psychological or physical effects on you, you don't know that, problems can take years to manifest in certain cases with different substances... I just personally don't agree with your views. To each his own...

Why anyone would use RCs anyway, never mind mixing them with DMT... Stupid, stupid....

Though I agree that synthetics can be somewhat unforgiving compared to their natural counterparts, The naturals can still be quite terrifying. My most traumatic psychedelic experience came from some really potent cubensis. I had tripped on the same batch before at least 7 times in the previous year and one day, off a normal/low dose, I tripped way harder than I ever had before. My body felt toxic and the visuals got to the point where every single object, floors, walls, everything had a face and was reaching out towards me and I pretty much had a paranoid anxiety attack for the whole trip. It's left me very afraid to go back to mushroomland and I've even been scared to step back into DMT even though I really want to. Every time I say "this is the day I face my fears and trip again" I end up backing out. Even doing relatively non psychedelic drugs now makes me uncomfortable sometimes for fear I'll go back to that hell. I know it's irrational. But the damage is done and that seed is planted and it is hard as hell for me to let it go.

You broke-through, let the madness ensue.

Some are good. All chemicals went through a research stage, remember that.

Exactly its ironic seeing some people here say lsd is great then condemning rc use like their above it. Not saying you said that tele but saying people who use rcs are stupid is a bunch of ego bullshit.

I do think combining RCs and DMT is stupid, but everyone can do what they like. BTW I don't care much about LSD even after trying it.