This post is the focus of the changa experience I had today. I am not yet aware of this forums culture and attitude towards changa and where it lies on the dmt spectrum of experience.

I smoked changa for the first time yesterday. I consider it my first experience into the more recognized DMT spaces. My only other experience with DMT was oral ingestions several weekends ago. The effects were not too similar but unified through synchronicities. As of yet because of the situation with my smoking implements I'm not really able to smoke large amounts in a single dose. I smoked about 5 times yesterday. The experiences ranged from a sense of the divine, grace, reflection of the unease I went into them with, some confidence and some worry. All in all I would call them 'light' and there was little I would call revelation. Still they were the strongest and most bizarre experiences I have had.

That's the quick summary of my experiences thus far. If you'd like to hear about them in depth you can read my introductory essay here:

https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=32857

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Today I woke up, smoked some cannabis and prepared to smoke the largest dose of changa yet. I light, it smokes easily enough, I hold it for a few seconds and I exhale. As I exhale my vision ripples and lowers slightly in contrast, my body feels lighter like a light nicotine rush. I put down my waterpipe, turn around and walk to my bed. My consciousness is ripped up and squeezed. The vibrating begins and I lay back and close my eyes. For moments I observed the feelings of energy, changes in visuals and sensations.

Then I was transported to a vibration or place of my, or somebodies psyche that was heart-wrenching and terrifying. It was haunting, I would describe the visuals as a dark spinning space of decaying old childrens toys and rusty wallowing plates. That is the sense it gave me. I was scared, it was physically painful, an aspect I only just remembered as I write this. There was pain, stinging, a terrible discomfort all around my body. It really hurt. I felt the infinite nature of the moment.

During this experience I remember my thoughts drifting to a stickied thread on the nexus titled 'Why you should NOT do dmt' which I just read last night. I remember it saying that once you experience these things, you cannot go back. These experiences are truly for the brave of heart. Towards the end of the experience I remember thinking 'I guess this time I am done with DMT for a while'

Of course I returned to my body, the horrid space left, and I did best to return to my heart. Something not too difficult with the gracing warm glow that was dancing through my windows. A lovely contrast indeed.

I have felt lots of love and compassion lately and know these are real places. I interpret this experience as a teaching that these places too, exist. Maybe it is showing there is responsibility that I must take. It may have very well been a cosmic shaking of the shoulders as a result of the haphazard and disrespective fashion I've been approaching these trips. This was my first 'bad' trip. My first moments into the dark night of the soul, into hell. Although I know now as I write this that the experience surely pales compared to where it could go. Where souls have surely been.

This experience has not driven me away from changa. I feel that it isn't necessary for me to go through the same experience again, and if it is I suppose it is for the best. Perhaps this was simply the result of having underlying tensions and unease that caused me to enter this place. Perhaps I should focus on my heart and try my best to stay in a place of love. To what lengths can or should I attempt to steer these things? I tried my best to surrender to the entire experience and watch it unfold. Ick. Well, I hope I am stronger as a result of this experience.

How joyous and reassuring a hot ceramic cup of tea is in my hands after an experience like that. Ahh.

Hello, .... and welcome.

Thanks for the intro essay and this post. It will be read and enjoyed by many. You write well.
My first thought is, 'head space' 'set and setting'

Your visit to the hospital and the emotions you were feeling would have almost certainly influenced your changa experience.
I am not familiar with it myself but I would welcome some comments from 'Purges' and many others.

Sounds to me like you may have been looking for what you received in a manner..

I'd really like you to read this https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...s_Wiki:Health_and_Safety
but here is a really good point about intergration of the experience.
[[Integration]]

After the experience has passed, like any experience in life, it is the time to question oneself about what happen and see if there is something to learn.

Write down your experience in a journal.
Think deeply about what happened, and try to remember events that might have slipped your mind.
Fill in blanks in your memory patiently.
Talk your experience through with someone who would understand and can ask you questions you might not remember to ask yourself.
Meditate on the most impressive or important aspects of your experience. Contemplate symbols and images.
Question yourself about the experience. A few guiding questions that can help: Was there something in my preparation and 'normal' life that I have done that could have caused this experience? Can I improve something? Is there a message to me in this experience, can i use it in a life-affirming way and improve myself and the world around me directly or indirectly? What about future use, should I do it again or maybe take a break or stop altogether? If I do, is there anything I can do better? Can I improve through changing something in the dosage, intentions, set and setting, actions during the negative event, integration? Should I get some help, whether it is simple talking/advice to others who can understand me, or more thorough psychological-spiritual support?
Be thankful.
Let it all go.

What I'm trying to say is dont be disheartened.
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"These experiences are truly for the brave of heart." Maybe, or the foolhardy.... hahahaa (Oh .... Vovin !!!! dramatic, but very real, read some of his other stuff , GREAT mind and Tek !! https://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/Vovin%27s_tek

Yes, its hard to see the good in some experiences. I am just not sure the DMT is to blame for your bad one (! it appears to be just the catalist of one's mindframe. I personally think that if it can be experienced in a favorable frame of mind, it may provide beneficial insights.('I guess this time I am done with DMT for a while'

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"Maybe it is showing there is responsibility that I must take. It may have very well been a cosmic shaking of the shoulders as a result of the haphazard and disrespective fashion I've been approaching these trips.
I suspect this is true, just my two cents

Have your considered a pure DMT experience from compound you have extracted yourself ?
Im interested what was your motivation on that morning "Today I woke up, smoked some cannabis and prepared to smoke the largest dose of changa yet."

To wash yourself of the experience on the day before ??

Have you considered doing your 'Changa' with your buddy ?
Know what your changa's got in it ? does it take you to a nice place ? Dont go there if the answer is NO to either question.
Love and Peas and VERY welcome. I look forward to your full membership and so eloquent reports of your adventures. Be Safe !
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Sorry, I fail like the pic below

Hi and welcome,

All I know is that this stuff really heals. In the beginning it may seem that you don't get what happened, that it was a horrifying trip but this is the only way to really get over trauma - to go through it. Freedom through pain, not from it. So there really is no bad trip. It's cleansing, letting wounds breathe and healing.

The only thing I managed to write on my note pad was when the majority of the effects had stopped altering my sense perception and it simply read,
'I think I got a bit ahead of myself. It really makes you appreciate whats already here.'