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Jerzeecanuck
#1 Posted : 5/29/2012 7:41:37 PM

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Greetings,

I would like to share with you my first experience with Jurema (MHRB). In the past I have ventured into the spiritual realm using numerous substances. Mushrooms, LSD, Peyote, Yopo & sometimes I took nothing at all and I still managed to slip into the realm of spirits (that is another story in itself). I was going through a major change in my life and I needed a ceremony to help guide me.

I waited until the moon was full and by coincidence (or maybe not?) I had the house to myself. I measured out 14g of MHRB and 3g of Syrian Rue. The powered MHRB was combined with approx 600ml of bottled water. I began heating up the mixture, ritually stirring it and praying for protection. There was no lemon juice on hand so I squeezed and orange for its juice. Then I stated my purpose for the ceremony, to venture into the Underworld. As the mixture started to boil, I turned down the temperature so that vapor would still be seen coming off of it. Then from out of nowhere flying ants started to land near the stove. The home has an ant problem every year but they were landing near the stove and no where else. I took this as a sign and decided to add them to the brew. After an hour of reducing, I filtered the MHRB & ants with a bandanna. Then I repeated the process 2 more times. Adding fresh water, orange juice & more flying ants.

Now it was time for the reducing phase. I combined all three containers of liquid back into the stainless steel pot. While it was slow boiling, I decided to now grind up the Rue. I reduced the MHRB mixture to fit exactly into one shotglass (coincidence?). Again said a prayer for protection as I ventured into the Underworld. I pricked my finger with a knife. A drop of blood came out and I added it to the shotglass full of Jurema. First the Rue, then 45min later the shotglass.

I went outside to sit in the yard on a tarp and sleeping bag I set up earlier. There I listened to some didgeridoo music on my phone. After about 90min I could feel the effects coming on very strong. Jurema was showing me the ill deeds I did in my life. This was probably the only time I felt somewhat frightened. I peered into my side of wickedness and embraced it. Then massive amount of closed eyes visuals appeared. In the form of fractals, checkerboard patterns, geometric shapes. They flashed by so quickly and numerously I couldnt remember them all. I just relaxed and opened my mind to them. Then the patterns paused on one shaped. It looked just like the symbol for radioactivity. This made me think of the lucid dream that I had about dying in a nuclear explosion. It was starting to drizzle and I was feeling very cold. I went inside to lay down and everything had a strange fractal pattern to it. Same as when I first did yopo.

As I lay in my bed the patterns came and went. At one point I could control them. Stopping their motion. Then making them go backwards. Then releasing them to let them go forwards again. I smiled like a child playing with a new toy. My brother came home and checked on me (he knew about the journey). I told him that I am skipping off the plane of the spirits. Like a rock on a lake. I thought maybe I didn't take enough. Right after I said that *BAM* the visuals came to me so hard and fast that I didn't even need to close my eyes. It was like I saw the patterns with "reality" looking all blurry in the background. At this point I had to vomit so I managed to crawl to the bathroom. I projectile vomited with an intensity that made my brother check on me again. After a few minutes of this I managed to crawl back into bed. I smiled because I felt that the spirit of Jurema must of been insulted because of what was said. So in my head I said "Bring It!"

I was transported into a strange world. I could see my astral body from a third person view (like on the video game Hitman). The would seemed somewhat subdued. Grey smooth walls. Like I was in a castle of some sort. Then there were beings that kept trying to come up to me to communicate. Sometimes the scene would disappear completely and I would only see their face. My mind would shove them off back into their world. But then others would come. And I would do the same. Then it would switch back to the third person view and my astral body was doing martial arts moves on all these different beings. I was defeating them so easily that I laughed to myself. Then I saw him....

The being with the Golden Eyes. He was sooo detailed, vivid, bright as the sun, and his presence was emanating such indescribable power. His face was all I could see (i wasn't in the third person view). I tried to push him back like the others but his power was immense! He would not budge in the slightest. I tried other psychic attacks and I could feel him diffuse them with no effort. It was obvious that this being could destroy me faster than a blink of an eye if it wanted to. So I stopped and opened up my mind. It did not talk but I could feel what it wanted. It wanted me to stop attacking and it wanted to teach me the power of the Golden Eyes. It peered at me with its glowing eyes and they became so intense. I felt its power flowing through me. I tried to turn away but it followed. Wherever I turned my gaze, it was there. Until finally I screamed in my mind "Enough! It's too much!"

Then I was back in my bedroom. Everything still had the fractal pattern around it. I did not see anymore beings. The afterglow lasted for another hour or so. Then I was back on Earth.

The following days I tried to process the information. I did a search for Golden Eyes but mostly came up with info about James Bond. After about an hour of going through images on Google I saw an image that almost made my heart stop. "Cosmic Christ" by Alex Grey. I have never seen this image before or even heard of Alex Grey (I am a newbie at this). Coincidence?? Then I learned more about Alex Grey and his artwork, experimentation with psychedelics, etc. From my conclusion, this being I saw must of been REAL. What was it? I don't know. Why did I see it? I don't know. Has anyone else seen it besides Alex Grey and me? I don't know. That is one of the reasons why I came on this site. To learn if others have seen this being during their travels. Attached is a picture of "Cosmic Christ".

Any feedback is welcomed. Negative, Positive or what have you. I need to find answers.
Thanks for reading this far.

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Cosmic Christ by Alex Grey
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#2 Posted : 5/29/2012 8:26:26 PM
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Funny, I have the cosmic christ as my background on my labtop. It really shows how we have the whole universe inside and outside of us.
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Jerzeecanuck
#3 Posted : 5/29/2012 8:40:33 PM

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Ritalin wrote:
Funny, I have the cosmic christ as my background on my labtop. It really shows how we have the whole universe inside and outside of us.


I put him as my cellphone background as a constant reminder. I will never forget those eyes.
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#4 Posted : 5/29/2012 9:49:33 PM
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Jerzeecanuck:

Shalom,

I had had many extremely profound psychedelic experiences with the Messiah over the course of my lifetime...

I find this painting to be the most accurate portrayal of the Yeshua ben Yoseph that I have ever seen..

I remember when I first saw it on Alex Grey's Web sight years ago, I was on mushrooms and I spent at least an hour just gazing in amazement.

Yeshua needed a good picture of him out there...what with all of the non-accurate "whimpy" sort of church like pictures of him have been circulating around for centuries..

Thanks to Alex Grey for representing Yeshua in a more realistic light.
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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#5 Posted : 5/29/2012 10:15:53 PM

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Eliyahu wrote:

Yeshua needed a good picture of him out there...what with all of the non-accurate "whimpy" sort of church like pictures of him have been circulating around for centuries..


Thanks for your comment. I am glad there is someone else to validate what I experienced. Now I can ease my mind instead of thinking I lost it! I feel you with the whimpy pictures of Jesus (or Yeshua). The pictures I normally saw looked like a strong wind would blow Him over. Hence I never though He really existed since the Son of God supposed to have power above all spirits except the Great Spirit (or God). Alex Grey managed to capture some of the magnificence of this being. More than words can describe, that's for sure!
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#6 Posted : 5/29/2012 11:45:50 PM

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Excellent report, thanks for sharing.

Why the drop of blood though? I'm curious.
 
Jerzeecanuck
#7 Posted : 5/29/2012 11:58:04 PM

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Sky Motion wrote:
Excellent report, thanks for sharing.

Why the drop of blood though? I'm curious.


It just came to me and I felt I had to do it. I suppose it was to conquer any fear of the Underworld. To help embrace any negative feelings and work through them. Fearing them and running away seems to make it worse for me IMHO.
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#8 Posted : 5/30/2012 1:05:39 AM

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That all makes perfect sense but I just don't understand, does blood symbolize those things to you? Gives the dose a darker quality?
 
Jerzeecanuck
#9 Posted : 5/30/2012 1:39:30 AM

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Sky Motion wrote:
That all makes perfect sense but I just don't understand, does blood symbolize those things to you? Gives the dose a darker quality?


Yes I believe so. Set & setting.
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#10 Posted : 5/30/2012 11:44:23 AM

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Sounds like a profound experience to me! I have been putting off journeying for a while, trying to clean up my act a bit on this side before venturing back... Maybe an encounter with such an immense being will help with that? idk... Thanks for sharing!

Sky Motion wrote:
Excellent report, thanks for sharing.

Why the drop of blood though? I'm curious.


I am more curious about the ants lol
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Jerzeecanuck
#11 Posted : 5/30/2012 5:59:12 PM

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Purges wrote:

I am more curious about the ants lol


During the ceremony they keep flying around near the stove. Since I was trying to go into the Underworld the idea popped into my mind that a sacrifice was needed. Plus I figured they flew onto the stove for a reason. Into the brew they went (I did thank them for their sacrifice).

Going with my gut feeling is more important than my logical mind (in my normal life I am more logical than Spock! lol) when I am in a ceremony. The intuitive mind is a most valuable tool IMHO. In life, sometimes information comes as evidence, facts, data that I can document. It is very slow, monotonous, & has a low chance of misinterpretation. The best part is that it can be readily shared with others.

The intuitive mind is extremely powerful. It allows instantaneous information transfer. The information can come from other people, animals (especially animals!!), spirits, entities, etc. It can cover vast distances, dimensions, & worlds. Now the bad parts, it has a high chance of misinterpretation! This is why psychics are never 100% accurate all the time. The information cannot be proven. So alot of times people will think you're just crazy (I wonder how many schizophrenic people really did see Jesus?). It also takes practice to use effectively. Some more than others.

Sooooo, when I do a ceremony I go by my intuitive mind. My gut feeling. No matter what "crazy" stuff it makes me do (like cooking ants and drinking my own blood). Because to me, this is practice. Breaking down barriers allows me to open my mind to the medicine (ayahuasca, jurema, DMT, etc.) and to accept it's power.

How can one enjoy the music if they are afraid to dance?
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#12 Posted : 5/30/2012 8:41:49 PM
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Dude,

The blood and the ants....that is old school type stuff, reminds me of the beginning of that wacky movie "Altered States" where the shaman puts his own blood and lizard tails and other stuff into the brew.
.....but it also reminds me of something Yeshua said to me once. he told me ....
"Without my body and blood, the word is meaningless."


P.S I dig your improvisational style of ceremony.....just not sure I would let you make brew for me while unsupervised.....Stop

haha


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Jerzeecanuck
#13 Posted : 5/30/2012 9:08:25 PM

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Eliyahu wrote:

The blood and the ants....that is old school type stuff, reminds me of the beginning of that wacky movie "Altered States" where the shaman puts his own blood and lizard tails and other stuff into the brew.


That is so cool. I never seen that movie but now I have to watch it! Again, thanks for validating my experience. At the time it did seem awkward why I did those things. But I felt a very clear & strong urge to make it happen. I never told anybody about it until I posted it on here.

Hey does that mean I am a "shaman"? Big grin

Eliyahu wrote:

.....but it also reminds me of something Yeshua said to me once. he told me ....
"Without my body and blood, the word is meaningless."


That's deep! Awesome quote.

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P.S I dig your improvisational style of ceremony.....just not sure I would let you make brew for me while unsupervised.....Stop


Thanks! LMAO! Nah man, I wouldn't make anyone drink my blood. They might like the taste of it and want more, and more, and more, and ... well you get the point! Twisted Evil
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Jerzeecanuck wrote:

That is so cool. I never seen that movie but now I have to watch it! Again, thanks for validating my experience. At the time it did seem awkward why I did those things. But I felt a very clear & strong urge to make it happen. I never told anybody about it until I posted it on here.

Be forewarned that movie Altered States.. although it has some interesting ideas and the first 20minutes is pretty cool ,,,overall the movie is pretty bad.. I give it two stars.

For a better movie check out Baraka.

Jerzeecanuck also wrote:
Hey does that mean I am a "shaman"?


>>There may be certain regulations against practicing Shamanism in Jersey. Other than that I'd say nothing is stopping you from being your own Shaman.
And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
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Jerzeecanuck also wrote:
Hey does that mean I am a "shaman"?

You have shamanism oozing out of your ears!

Throwing in flying ants after they've collected near the brew! Only reincarnated shamans would even think to do such a thing!

(I'm not serious, but I'm not kidding either Wink )

I understand your no pain no gain approach though. I've definitely found that when i put a lot of effort into 'steeling myself' for the journey, I get a lot more out of it.



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#16 Posted : 5/30/2012 11:34:30 PM
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HAHA

Ya gotta love the whole I'm kidding but i'm deadly serious demeanor of most mystic type individuals..I love using it personally...

Anyway you should check out this thread it has serious relevance and I'm not kidding. haha

Heaven and Hell - A Psilohuasca Experience



And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not percieve the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, "brother let me remove the speck from your eye", when you yourself do not see the plank that is in your own eye?-Yeshua ben Yoseph
 
Jerzeecanuck
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Thanks for the comment aliendreamtime!

This is amazing. I've been going at this pretty much all by myself for so long. I had no one to share what was going on with me. Not only do I not feel alone (and not totally insane), but I feel welcomed!

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Jerzeecanuck
#18 Posted : 5/30/2012 11:46:39 PM

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HAHA

Ya gotta love the whole I'm kidding but i'm deadly serious demeanor of most mystic type individuals..I love using it personally...

Anyway you should check out this thread it has serious relevance and I'm not kidding. haha

Heaven and Hell - A Psilohuasca Experience





Exactly! People don't know when I'm serious, or joking, or seriously joking! Cool
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Jerzeecanuck wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
Excellent report, thanks for sharing.

Why the drop of blood though? I'm curious.


It just came to me and I felt I had to do it. I suppose it was to conquer any fear of the Underworld. To help embrace any negative feelings and work through them. Fearing them and running away seems to make it worse for me IMHO.


And yet... you were fighting all those archetypes within you... Why?
 
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#20 Posted : 6/1/2012 12:02:56 PM

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autumnsphere wrote:
Jerzeecanuck wrote:
Sky Motion wrote:
Excellent report, thanks for sharing.

Why the drop of blood though? I'm curious.


It just came to me and I felt I had to do it. I suppose it was to conquer any fear of the Underworld. To help embrace any negative feelings and work through them. Fearing them and running away seems to make it worse for me IMHO.


And yet... you were fighting all those archetypes within you... Why?


Since my intention was to travel to the Underworld, I had a feeling that any entity I saw was not to be trusted. After defeating a few entities, I had this feeling of absolute greed. In this reality I despise greed because it is so destructive. I would often sacrifice my own needs for others. But during my trip I let myself go and fed off that negative energy. Allowing the power to corrupt me "Lord of the Rings" style. In my mind I was laughing. I was taking pleasure in inflicting pain.

But the part that puzzled me; I was expecting to see the Prince of Lies himself and saw Cosmic Christ instead. Why would He be in the Underworld?? I am quite ignorant when it comes to religion, so any experts please enlighten me with your comments.
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