I went to hyperspace recently and I joined this site to talk about it, so here goes:

I have a long history with psychedelics aside from dmt. Psychedelics have been the most powerful and transformative force throughout my life and I am proud to have used them responsibly from an early age. My introduction to them was at the age of 13 via LSD and I was lucky in that the people who shared it with me also impressed upon me the sacred and powerful nature of these compounds. As I've aged, my relationship with psychedelics has changed. It's been through several multiyear cycles of varying intensity but it's always been with me and even when I went years between trips, I still used the wisdom they had given me to continue my spiritual journey.

I had smoked DMT several times before this and had very pleasant experiences overall. I had closed eye visuals with very rich organic imagery and sometimes the presence of a female earth goddess who showed me love visualized as a pathway through dimensions. It was beautiful.

Recently, I smoked about a gram of very pure crystals from a mhrb STB extraction out of a glass weed pipe with a small weed crumb base. I was in an excellent set and setting and thats the only reason I felt comfortable taking that amount. Sitting on my bed in a quiet room with my girlfriend next to me and nothing on my mind seemed like a responsible way to up my dmt dosage.

After the second hit, I showed up in hypspace I suppose the way you normally do, crashing through a psychic barrier of sorts. Naturally I was shocked and amazed. Without a doubt this was the most incredible psychedelic experience of my life. Sitting there on my bed with my eyes open I saw another dimension. The color of the space was changing to a completely different color altogether every second or so, very rapidly. There were these things bouncing around the place that defy explanation. There were tons of them.

It seemed that just as soon as I broke through a couple of these creatures bounded over to me and covered my eyes with their hands except they weren't really hands and when they covered my eyes all I could see was white and I also became very confused to the point where I couldn't remember who or what I was. I could hear some of them giggling and others bounding past but I couldn't remember myself in a very weird way. It was slightly terrifying but the best was yet to come.

As I'm sitting there trying to recall the basic aspects of my identity, I hear one of them bounce past and say very quickly "you're a person on dmt". Hearing that jolted me back and somehow remembering who I was also enabled me to see out of this haze/veil/hand covering that these couple of things had over me. At the same time that I realized that I was a person and myself, I also realized that these things definitely were not people, not in any way shape or form. It also seemed like they we're jealous of my humanity? It's weird to say "it seemed like..." and then attribute thoughts to them because they weren't saying these things to me, I just felt them.

Anyway, I'm sitting there stunned and a little shaken and these things are everywhere bouncing past all around. It seemed like some viewed me as a novelty and would bounce up to look at me grinning while others tried to bounce in and out of me and then there were the tricky ones who tried to do something scary to me and they were sort of hanging around leering at me and my humanity is seemed. That's when I heard one the guys tricking me say to the one that helped me "Shut up!". That was probably the single most bizarre moment of my life up to now. Wow. I just heard an entity get mad at another one.

Then another bounced up to me and recites a string of utterly bizarre yet fascinating word combinations, that almost sounded like he was trying to explain an idea too complex for my brain to process and it was coming out as nonsense instead.

Since my eyes were open and I am seeing a bunch of weird creatures walking around my bedroom and arguing with each other, I began to wonder how long this would last. I looked over at my girlfriend to ask her how many of them were in our room but she's laying down in a closed eye trip (she didn't break through but went to a room of curtains and sensed entities).

After that I sat there looking at them and feeling the most grateful to be a human that I ever have in my entire life. As with most of my difficult trips, the effect on my waking life has been overwhelmingly positive, like bitter medicine. But this first trip to hyperspace has left me with many more questions than answers.

First, has anybody else seen entities interact with each other in unpredictable ways?

Has anybody else experienced the sense of having games played on you by entities?

I'm just so amazed.

great report, can't wait till I do dmt

Wow, great report. It is truly strange that you mentioned these elf's being jealous, I often feel the exact same feeling when breaking through. They're like o look its this guy again lets throw objects at him, so i than just bulldoze through there puny realm to my confines.

Very interesting report!

"you're a person on dmt" -> they were friendly and just helping you stay grounded, and it worked. It is not easy to stay focused, they also helped me balance myself that way, now I never forget where I'm coming from.

As for the 1g of smoked spice, it seems very unlikely you inhaled it all, your method of administration is probably very inefficient. I don't think human lungs can take such a huge amount. 50-60mg should be more then enough to send you to outer space

Peace

You're saying you smoked an entire gram as one dose...?

With all due respect, that's not remotely possible. I submit the possibility that either your estimation or vaporizing technique are in need of a bit of work.

I have met entities with all sorts of attitudes, fuzzy, cuddly, loving ones, irritated, angry ones, cheeky, rude ones, elfy, jestery, God-like, you name it, there is a representation of some sort there! And all with doses between 20-30mg vaporized efficiently in my GVG. Honestly dude, I think you need to seriously scale back your doses and work on smoalking technique, that is a hell of a lot of DMT to be loading up in one go, you'd be lucky to be able to fit 1/10th of that in your lungs.... Or maybe not

My suspicions based on my own experiences and others is that journeys such as you describe are some kind of program that plays out .
Part of it is a feedback loop that gets basic information from your mind then incorporates it enough to make it seem personal .

It's a masterwork of distraction really.
Next time it happens try to change it in some way . Pay very very close attention I think it could be a test of some sort .

Try various approaches , one is to tell them to F*** Off in a loud voice with conviction . It takes balls but you,ll see the thing will be uneffected and just keep rolling along .

I,ve done this enough times to suspect something is fishy or it at the very least not what it seems .

Not what it seems ...

I suspect you are correct. It did take two hits to consume the entire bowl but I didn't weigh the amount before hand, so I probably am overestimating. My apologies.

Thanks to everyone who has shared their interpretation of this experience. I truly appreciate you input. It's been a long time since I've been so puzzled over the nature of an experience and your input is invaluable.

How many different/unique explanations are being floated for these things?

I see a couple different variations of the mind/ego/subconscious explanation

I see a lot of people asserting that their is some objective reality at play but not really going much further in explaining the nature of it

What other possible explanations are there?

Here is my two cents.....

I believe that the aliens or "elves" as they are often referred to can also be classified as being demons and angels.

And that would explain why they sometimes battle over your soul.

Demons and angels please ,
I,m sorry that discussion goes nowhere for me
I apologize but
Demons and angels are cultural artifacts ,
Human constructs , limiting belief systems , we need to move past that stuff to begin to understand these things better and begin to unravel its true nature

Are you ready? I'm not. The only thing that keeps me sane is not knowing. However it feels as if parts of me I keep on finding hidden in hyperspace knows a small fraction, another piece to the puzzle. But it seems the more i think i know whats going on the more I feel I get upset, angry, or in a complete rage towards god/aliens/other world moderators or whatever holds our existence. (ignorance is bliss) I should add I used to feel this way not so much anymore, also my past situations had no influence on these negative emotions i had towards our creators. Probably one of the most happiest go lucky people who would meet.(lots of pot+ psychedelic+ not caring= awesome combination/bum. I'm just not a fan of control you could say. However after trying dmt the universe showed me how to truly not give a ****
there is nothing i can do to stop it or alter it even if any of this was possible, I'd still have to take other beings into consideration. I feel as if we are being prepped to rule our own universe.


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Felnik....

"Please".....

This was exactly my thought when I read this statement...

"My suspicions based on my own experiences and others is that journeys such as you describe are some kind of program that plays out .
Part of it is a feedback loop that gets basic information from your mind then incorporates it enough to make it seem personal .

It's a masterwork of distraction really.
Next time it happens try to change it in some way . Pay very very close attention I think it could be a test of some sort .

Try various approaches , one is to tell them to F*** Off in a loud voice with conviction . It takes balls but you,ll see the thing will be uneffected and just keep rolling along .

I,ve done this enough times to suspect something is fishy or it at the very least not what it seems .

Not what it seems ..."

Sounds like you have really got it figured out there.

So your saying you believe that when we smoke DMT it takes us to some kind of whacked out computer program that spews meaningless recycled "personalized" information at you..because it's somehow testing you?

In my opinion, if your going to smoke DMT without any knowledge of how the spirit world functions then you might as well go swimming in quicksand because it will have the same effect. Oh but wait there are no spirits--Just programs. right?

Having some foundation of understanding about how the spirit world works no matter how archaic that knowledge is can provide much needed support during any psychedelic experience.

-I know you probably love bible quotes so here is a great one for you.-

"The path of the righteous is like radiant sunlight, ever brightening until noon.
The way of the wicked is all darkness;
They know not what makes them stumble." -Proverbs

I,m not an expert , Only provisional theories ,
I know nothing .
Just ideas, suspicions based on my own experience.

Call it whatever you want .

Shamanic tradition yes .

Spirits yes .

Demons and angels fighting over our souls ?

I have trouble with this , I,m sorry

Felnik.

Hey that's a fair enough response...

I can understand having a hard time with what I am saying. I would not believe in it myself if it weren't for the things I have seen.

There is such a gigantic stigma that exists when it comes to words like Demon and Angel that I would almost rather not use these words at all..... I have used and occasionally use alternative words and phrases such as "spiritual predator" or "DMT entity", higher power, etc.

The reason I keep falling back on old fashioned titles like Demon and Angel is not because I'm trying to bring a cumbersome system of antiquated and outdated religion in to the DMT realm. What I am trying to do is breathe life into completely forgotten yet totally functioning ancient systems of knowledge. Ancient Hebrew, Vedic and Budhist knowledge are based upon thousands of years worth of ultra fine tuned philosophical traditions. As far as mental discipline and psychedelic exploration goes..These ancient cultures have been exploring "hyperspace" for longer than this "modern civilization" has even existed.

It is when spirituality is used to control the masses that "religion" is born.

Wouldn't you agree that there are times when hiding something in plain sight is the best way to conceal something?

It has been my discovery during my personal psychedelic experiences that this is the case with some of the deepest truths in this world.

- That they are hidden in plain sight right in front of your very eyes.

Great written report!

I'd love to be able to see from one of these 'elves' perspective and see what we look like to them!
This is your first experience with DMT? Definitely a breakthrough which is impressive for the first time, although you probably smoked 100mg or so definitely not a entire gram

looking forward to future reports!

The first statement above might be true, unfortunately because of the second statement's truth we will probably never be able to verify the first statement.

During their evolution from shamanic traditions to complex political power structures, religions have lost most of their ancient wisdom. In most cases it was purposely destroyed because it conflicted with the new ideas that were being put forward to control people. Not all of those ideas were terrible, go read some pre-christian german literature and you will see why the romans decided it was a good idea to force the notion of forgiveness of some of these populations.


Unfortunately for us, we're so far removed from ancient history that most of the texts have been rewritten so many times that they are useless. The second reason is that because religion had been under constant attack from secular political power organizations, i.e. nations. Religious/shamanic techniques of discovering truth are a direct threat to nationalism (at least in the view of most nationalists), because they undermine the state's authority and can't be easily regulated.

Basically, all I'm saying is, if you find something useful in the paradigm of one or several of the worlds religious traditions, that's great. Over the years much wisdom has accumulated in various religious traditions around the world. Coming back to what Felnik was saying though, ultimately, the present state of much of the religious traditions around the world is the product of the human mind and today our ability to sift through the vagaries of history and separate the divine wisdom from the editorial comments of man, well it's tough.

Also, for the record, I'm mostly an idiot and I don't claim to have any more direct path to truth than anyone else here.

Felnik, what do you think think are clues to what the true nature of these things and their space is?

Smilingblock said:

"Unfortunately for us, we're so far removed from ancient history that most of the texts have been rewritten so many times that they are useless"


I'm sorry but this is a half truth. The Torah in it's Hebrew form still exists in unedited versions the way it was written 3000+ years ago.

What your saying is only true for people who are unwilling to learn any ancient language.

Citation?

Afaik, the oldest torah is ~1000 years younger than you claim. How can we comment on how true to any original text this may be without actually having older 'original' texts?

Using the ideas in a religious text to enrich your life is not something I'm going to opine about any further. If it helps you, that's great. But I certainly didn't join this website to debate the fucking torah.

If you want to believe that this or any other religious document is an unedited piece of work, that's also your business.

But it reminds me of something.

If you really believe that, then let me tell you about a special deal that I am privy to. The city of new york is going to be auctioning some of its public structures for sale in the next couple of months to help pay for its budget shortfall. A friend of mine who works for the city told me that they might even be offering some of the income generating properties for sale i.e., toll roads, parking garages, etc. But by far, the best deal out there is a 3/4 mile steel and stone structure that connects the borough of Brooklyn to the island of Manhattan. He wouldn't tell me much more except that it's going to be sold in a special auction and there is a lot of interest. He also said, to make sure that I only tell people I trust, specifically people who believe in the unedited authenticity of religious documents that are thousands of years old. So what do you think? Interested in any large income generating public structures in nyc?