There hasn't been a lot of progression and evolution in the understanding of what DMT is doing and what hyperspace is. Sure, we all experience it and how it has profound effects on our body and mind, but we currently lack the scientific data to in any way explain what is really going on any further than metabolization.

I have a hunch that somehow hyperspace is working in either the ultraviolet or infrared spectrum or quite possibly even beyond. I have been thinking a lot lately about how John Lilly would receive visions from dolphins while on psychedelics. Dolphins use ultrasound to communicate, and people use a device called the cymascope to translate ultrasound into a visible format. See here. If he truly was sensing ultrasound in conjunction with consciousness, then we apparently have a sensor for this somehow embedded within us. The question is, where is it, and how does it work?

What leads me to this hunch is the way patterns and colors overlay reality upon returning from a heavy dose. It seems to me that it is allowing a broader range of frequencies to be perceived, thus ultraviolet and infrared come to mind, as they are close relatives to the already visual spectrum. Everybody who has been there knows that the colors are the same but different. This might be a viable explanation for this.

My question for those who are more scientific-minded than I, maybe this is beyond us and I am getting ahead of what we are capable of, but how could we further study this? Any and all thoughts or critiques welcome and appreciated.

Interedasting

perhaps we automaticaly filter out all this information - received by senses and the spice temporarily turns off this filter - allowing us to see these other spectrums. Since i was a kid i was sure there was life in the uv or ir ranges.
like perhaps insects that are made of substances only able to reflect those spectrums of light.

I saw a video the other day on critters - filmed in the sky using a high speed uv or ir camera (but il leave it at that before this post becomes too ct style)

In the past I had tried a couple experiments using infrared photography (with an IR filter and infrared film) to try and document any aspect of hyperspace. I've been as of yet unsuccessful. Ultraviolet film seems to be one of those things that is pretty expensive and is only available to high-end photographers.

Do you know how deep into the spectrums current technology is capable of recording?

If this isn't IR or UV then maybe it goes even further beyond them. If it goes beyond, I speculate it still encompasses.

With the aid of modern technology we can "see" gamma rays, X-rays, ultraviolet waves, infrared waves, microwaves, and radio waves. In other words, we can detect and "see" the whole spectrum with our eyes and tech combined. Nothing DMT-spooky is going on in any of these frequencies. It seems it's all in our heads, have no fear!

Supposing that the alteration of our mind with a psychedelic substance will effectively produce a release of EM radiation, that is, photons in a sufficient amount, in whichever frequency, detectable with an external device, sounds like quite big an assumption to me. Besides what our mind circuitry perceives during the experience. I am not aware of any successful experiments that have managed to detect a distinct emission of EM radiation from a subject in a mystic or psychedelic state.

I am no physicist, but in any case, EM field analysis sounds more promising to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the bioelectric EM field went through detectable changes under the effects of entheogens.

Thank you citta and vodsel, I am very glad to learn this. I will look into it more. It's obviously way more complex than what I originally thought.

I wonder if it has to do with interpretation (like the way some beings hear ultrasound but we can use machines to "see" it), or a melding of various spectrums or all of the them .. Just crazy ideas as I am having during an insomniacal phase.

It seems like hyperspace encompasses every paradox in the book. I would love to hear others' thoughts on any methods of evolution we can conduct to further understand just what exactly is going on here.

Frankly, I have no idea. As you have said we understand this shit fairly good in terms of biochemistry in the brain, but when we don't even know exactly how the hell organized matter becomes aware of itself, it becomes very difficult to try to understand the phenomenology of the DMT experience.

I myself, as you probably know, don't believe it to be much more than something going on inside our heads with no spesific reference to the external world (not to say it isn't valuable and that you can learn from the experience itself). There are many good arguments for why this should be the case, but by all means, perhaps we got it all wrong. I would hold my horses though, and not put more into it than it seems to be upon current careful analysis.

I am coming to the point where I feel similarly. What once seemed external seems automatic to me now. I still remain ... well, puzzled, though.

Do you have any ideas on ways we could test what is going on inside? I guess the questions I am asking are just beyond us. These things lie in our future. And until then, all we can do is be baffled.

I guess I would just love to learn more. And with this thread, I already have.

No, I have no idea. Subjective experiences are not subject to objective scientific analysis, just loose speculation, metaphysics, philosophy, spirituality and religion. I am not sure if it ever will be possible to carefully analyze and discern subjective experiences with the scientific method, but if DMT experiences really is more than just something going on inside our heads subjectively, we should be able to study it sooner or later. As of yet, no such evidence exists and lots of good arguments speaks against it, and hence many scientists focus on other things when asking Nature questions.

The way I see it is there are two main components to this phenomenon:

-The initial trip

-And returning to find everything around you in a completely different perspective/hue.

I think the ladder is where people should start when and if the time comes that we can feasibly test this somehow. Even though what is happening is probably just a biological filter, It would be so cool to know how that works. And even with that said, both of those components still have the same mechanism.

I think there is a lot to look at regarding ekg (Electrocardiograpy).

everything is on the same continuum and we know that the heart gives off our strongest electromagnetic feild.

After a trip in December, i've been able to see my electto-maagnetic feild at night time when i turn the lights off and go to bed . Can only see it when i am feeling energized though. it moves parallel to both my hands and my head. I can sometimes see very very small bursts of the light too erupting within it and near the surface of skin.

but yeah- brain and heart i think is where to find any solid 'proof' in terms of the higher frequencies that are percieved/integrated/projected during these experiences.

I,m way into this line of thinking

This all in the head thing doesn't really lead anywhere for me. It always seems like a blanket writeoff off the potentials of hyperspace .

We have nothing to loose by exploring tangeable possibilities

I think the answer will be stranger and more incomprehensible than we ever thought possible .

I've thought about
The eventual creation of some kind of advanced brain to test hyperspace .
How bout a scenerio where scientists create an advanced computer that becomes conscious,
And hyperspace suddenly becomes accessible through an instrument created by man

Immersion into levels of quantum potential state consciously visualized by the reflective interpretation of the observed frequencies in the constant interaction and reaction of energetic flows...?!

2 words:
Kirlian Photography

I just posted this to the Open Discussion boards, probably not the best place. If you skip past the first part, where I'm going on about the possibilities of extracting/utilizing the various enzymes found in phalaris, you'll see that at the end of the post I provide a link to a paper which claims that quantum tunneling, at the level of the photon, has been observed in the human brain's metabolization of tryptamine. I could be terribly mistaken, but I would imagine it is this very metabolic pathway that is working overtime when/where 'unusual' amounts/types of tryptamines have found their way into one's brain. It could be there is an analogy worth exploring here: between the seeming n-dimensionality of hyperspace, and the macroscopic equivalent of "walking through walls" involved in the brain's metabolic attempts at returning from there.

I’ve always speculated on the possibilities of psychedelics and DMT in particular, altering our neural circuitry in ways that may be allowing one to perceive a different spectrum of reality. When you think about it, the electromagnetic spectrum is the range of all possible frequencies of electromagnetic radiation. We, as humans, can only naturally observe reality on a small band of these frequencies, through our sensory organs and with the aid of technological instruments we can slightly expand the observation of that spectrum. In principle the electromagnetic spectrum is infinite and continuous, potentially continuing on in infinitely smaller and infinitely larger wavelengths.

I’ve often wondered if thoughts, or consciousness, have their own wavelength which we have yet been able to detect (with instruments anyway), which gives me reason to believe in possible explanations to synchronistic moments when you happen to be thinking the same thing as your friend, or you predict what they were going to say before they said it, and other similar occurrences.

In respects to hyperspace and DMT entities, it’s possible they could be real beings existing in a real place. I sometimes look around and imagine as if hyperspace and DMT entities are always invisibly all around me. I think of them as being super-imposed in our reality, but existing on a different band (One that is drastically higher or lower) of frequencies, so that we can’t ordinarily see them. Through indirect observations, astrophysicist have concluded that everything we do see accounts for only a meager 4 percent of the universe and it’s suspected that something called dark matter makes up another 30 percent. So that’s 30 percent of something invisible to us and we really have no idea what it is.

I remember reading a quote somewhere that said something like, “Our brains have evolved to perceive reality in way that’s practical for biological survival, not to perceive reality the way that it actually is.”

After reading that quote and having in mind the information of dark matter and dark energy, I went on to imagine something silly. I imagined that there could be trillions-of-trillions, of “dark matter spiders” crawling all about the cosmos weaving the very webs of the universe and the fabric of space-time. Although this scenario is most unlikely to the nature of the universe, if such an example were true, then for the biological progression of our species on earth it’d be very impractical if we could see “dark matter spiders” or “Machine elves” doing whatever they do but not having a direct impact within our band of frequencies. Point being that, if such things did exist, and we could see them, it would probably have negative consequences on our evolutionary progress by serving as a distraction, so maybe our senses developed to see certain things, but also maybe they developed to phase out certain things as well.


Just some thoughts I've had over the last year or so.