Hey there...my tripping companion and I both experienced an uncomfortable bout with very itchy feet after consuming harmine from flowing visions during my Aya trip....

This has happened twice and i'm wondering if it's due to some impurity....
I have also noticed that harmalas from FV are impossible to smoke as they hurt my lungs alot.

I'm wondering if this is anything I should be concerened about..

okay..first off you must know that FV is NOT a trustable vendor.

You have a few posts talking about taking "THH" with harmine etc and how much better this is than rue..is this "THH" from FV as well? The apparent THH from FV was tested by capable people here and it all turned out to be nothing more than harmine with a tiny bit of DMT contamination..so that is something to concider, as you likely have never even really had pure THH unless they actaully started to carry real stuff even after denying that the old "THH" was actually harmine.

That said I dont knwo what would cause itchy feet, byt my whole point here is that as far as I am concerned there is no reason to trust this vendor when it comes to their harmalas. I sure as hell would not put my trust in them.

I would get some rue and do your own harmine extraction that way you will know for sure what it is that you have..

also, not sure why this is posted in the cacti section?..I will move it to the harmalas section for you.

Sorry My mistake posting in the cactus area...Thanks for moving it..


I have read about his impure thh but I think he improved it. For one thing it glows bright blue instead of green under a black light. Also it is a very noticable diff in the visuals compared to just harmine by itself

I do think it's too expensive though and I generally just buy Caapi and Bobinsana instead to provide my THH factor.

I guess I will stop recomending his products in light of this itchy shadiness


Unfortunately, I Live in a place where no extractions can be done otherwise I would, Fo Sho!

Also, anyone know a semi easy way I could "wash" this FV harmine to make it purer???

you can manske it and then take the hcl salts and freeze precip them from distilled or spring water...I did it here..it is not that hard really just need the correct water ratio..
https://www.dmt-nexus.me...aspx?g=posts&t=25948

There are other ways as well, you can convert it back to a salt and then precip it back out as freebase with sodium carb...

Thanks for that tip Jamie,,,

I followed the link you posted and I noticed you mention that you prefer HCL harmalas over freebase. Why is that?

Also do you think Harmalas would be equally stable if you used fumaric or tartaric acid instead of HCL?

Thanks for lending me your wisdom

I remember a while back when I first got into extracting, I had a hard time finding fumaric acid. I eventually found some on flowing visions website so I jumped on it and ordered some.
I paid something like $20.00 for what ended up being a shot glass size bottle of food grade fumaric acid.

A few days later I found a website selling the exact same thing. The only difference was for the same 20.00 you get a couple POUNDS of the stuff. I felt completely RIPPED OFF!!! (which I was)

Not too long after that I read about all the drama behind FV due to there THH product.

Yeah, not a trustworthy vendor.

wow dude..that is a rip off..

I am not sure about fumaric or tartaric acid for harmalas..never salted harmalas with either of them..only used fumarate for DMT..sea salt works so well and is so easy so I always just went for the hcl.

I just like the hcl more because I dont smoke the harmalas..I use them sublingual just occasionally..usually I drink full brews and just use sublingual sometimes before I smoke or before bed for dreaming..freebase is converted back to salt anyway when ingested and hcl grows nice big long crystal and I never got freebase to do that and I like crystals

Yeah, I had no idea at first and was just happy to even find some. When I found out how unbelievably cheap it was other places I swore I would NEVER buy from them again.

I understand everybody's got to make a dollar but damn........
No need to completely rip people off like that.

Please excuse my chemistry ignorance but.

Sea salt? really, you can use sea salt to make HCL? I thought you were using Hydrochloric acid, which I don't really enjoy messing with.

Yes, click wiki, extraction teks, harmala extraction teks. The manske salt-precipitation step uses a near-saturated salt (NaCL) solution, to make the HCl salts of harmalas precipitate. 100g per 1l boiling harmala solution.