This is going to be a long post it's kind of a slash between an introduction essay and first experience essay. I hijacked someone's post in another area of the forum so I thought I'd start fresh in the appropriate zone and hope to get some good answers Basically I'm having trouble determining the level of breakthrough SWIM (a fictional character in a story of mine) is experiencing. The character SWIM is a highly experienced user of Psychedelics (countless LSD and Pscilocibin trips, back in college SWIM would trip every weekend on mushrooms and a few times a month on LSD, and over the past 6 years has tripped consistently at least once a month. The space SWIM experiences during his/her trances are not entirely 3D space more like SWIM is at the very front and center of a stage and is watching a story unfold... SWIM can look left and right but Up Down and Behind are inaccessible.. since arriving into the DMT nexus over the last month SWIM has tried the machine to spec, bought a VG, tried tinfoil and other unsavories, but has only gotten to the "breakthrough" point with the herb sandwich method in a water bong (SWIM finds the large chamber easier to get that DMT all in under 30 seconds), every method except glass dick at this point (not sure where to find one, if SWIM could he/she would as he/she read Terrance McKenna stood by this method). SWIM has had wonderful introverted experiences making him/her question the life he/she lives in a good way, but SWIM wants desperately to find the chrysanthemum and the doorway and to explore much deeper than what feels like just the top layer of his/her ego.

A little background on myself as a person, I'm a professional baker and went to school for Chemistry but have currently found myself disappointed in life and where the planet is headed and over the past year began seeking spirituality and moving away from my once firm beliefs in the non-existence of higher beings/powers. I first tried LSD at the age of 17 and have always felt this sense of interconnection between all of us since that beautiful first time when I experienced something outside of myself, the experience of not being separate but actually being part of everything and every point in time.. it's such a beautiful feeling! However the scientist in me denied aliens, religion, and worst of all blatantly wrote off all the conspiracies about the gov't.. I was a blind patriot. Even with the help of psychedelics it still wasn't until I was about 22/23 when I started realizing nothing material in this world would ever bring me happiness.. even a relationship with someone I loved wasn't providing happiness. I was living for the next moment every moment and never actually paying attention to the moment AT HAND. Time passes very fast and very unrewarding in this way. Suddenly without warning I was older, more tired at the end of each work day, and feeling helpless more and more. I had nothing to show for it except my memories and even then the memories were boring and filled with pointless images of work and arguments and nothing notably amazing. So now, a few years later at the age of 25 I'm looking for a new life, one with permanent happiness. I've come to find the only lasting feeling of joy I actually receive comes from helping others. So I've been researching quantum mechanics/physics (iTunesUniversity is really amazing, free videos of lectures from professors of notable universities!), entheogens, meditation, yoga, the Awakening process, Buddhism, the Pineal gland, 2012, the Mayans, Rick Strassman, David Icke.. everything and anything and trying to find out for myself wtf is up with the world!! I'm currently working on quieting my ego and trying to find a sustainable way to live without money while helping others and contributing to the planet. I don't feel worthy of such a gift as life and I'm searching for the path that will help ease the unworthiness. It is a very tough journey to become selfless I've found out This has all led me to the "spirit molecule" and the fictional story of SWIM (take it as extreme visualization if you would please!).. hoping to use spice as a therapeutic way to map my path and focus my subconscious on spontaneous and creative ideas to achieve my goals. I'm willing to listen to whatever message is given to me.

(**DISCLAIMER: please remember this is fiction and SWIM is not real. The author, myself, has taken no part in any of the activities below, does not promote illegal activity pursuant to your country's laws, and has nothing to offer to anyone other than a creative story. Questions, comments, and advice pertaining to the adventures of SWIM and how the character should progress are highly appreciated!**)

Swim has extracted .5lbs so far, and is at the end of his/her yielded results (approximately 2-4g of material altogether). Out of this SWIM has shared with many of his/her friends providing low BB sized doses to any interested free of charge. SWIM had spent years asking anyone he/she knew that was interested in psychedelics bout spice and NO ONE knew of it, let alone seen or tried it So SWIM insisted that he/she would not deny others interested in spiritual/conscious evolution the magic that he/she had harnessed from nature.

SWIM will admit he/she has not measured the doses for SWIM's own breakthrough attempts accurately, only a .1g capable scale was used to approximate 100mgs (when the scale tipped just to .1g this was the amount vaped). SWIM has a bong loaded now and is currently meditating and intending to experience something other than the elves

So back to the original hijacking.. It's important to note that SWIM was merely looking for a nice mild LSD like high before going to bed, and had never tried smoking it out of a bong. He/she had heard mixed results and SWIM figured that the relatively small (~30mg) pile would give him/her the beautiful rainbows CEV's to fall asleep to and perhaps even help with the astral projection techniques SWIM has been practicing recently. Needless to say SWIM got far more than he/she had anticipated and up until then had only experienced the standard CEV's of fractalizing manadala patterns growing stretching sinking and swimming.. SWIM's first breakthrough where he/she felt is if the body where dissolved and the eyes wide open even though they weren't is most easily described as watching live action christmas gift-wrapping paper... a flat 2-D landscape of cartoon dancing elves all in sync dancing with one another to techno and laughing and giggling, no depth to the world whatsoever--the elves had no message for SWIM in this first breakthrough and SWIM was alone so no one could tell him/her how long he/she was in a trance for. The elves during this trance also had a Simpson's type character (a yellow cartoon character) in a human sized blender without the blades, just spinning them around--it was like pure innocent mischief was happening. Also the entire time SWIM could not stop thinking "Why is this happening AGAIN, I'm seeing the elves AGAIN why do they always appear during my trance, why am I here again" and slowly as SWIM came back he/she realized he/she had never experienced anything like that before. When SWIM finally opened his/her eyes all SWIM could say was "what the fuck did I just see"

Second trance was the message about cigarettes--SWIM closed his eyes after the bong rip (which he/she thought was easily 25% more DMT than the first "breakthrough" trance) and SWIM saw HIM/HERSELF materialize out of the blackness of the back of SWIM's eyelids.. and slowly SWIM's doppleganger turned into the familiar elf. This elf produced a human sized-cigarette and was dancing with it spinning it on it's end all the while leaning in towards SWIM's "face" (or whatever SWIM has for a face ) waving it's finger "NO" and shaking his head "NONONO" as well clearly talking about cigarettes... the cigarette then turned into a BIC lighter/candle flame (classic teardrop shape) which then grew into corporate buildings, which then grew into the U.S. Capitol building.. the entire time SWIM had the sense of his/her duality.. telling everyone that the illuminati is real and asking "how do we stop it" all the while SWIM is actually fueling the greedy, no-remorse for murdering people through cancer BIG business by buying cigarettes... It was as if the elves knew everything about SWIM and the cigarette turned into other things--memories of things SWIM was ashamed of or felt guilty about. SWIM kept thinking "I really hope they don't know that one thing about me" and instantly the cigarette morphed into it. Layers were peeled back almost uncontrollably.. but SWIM never felt scared or upset nor did he/she feel the guilt normally associated with these thoughts.. SWIM was completely objectively seeing them but just KNEW they weren't "good" and that's why he/she didn't want to see them as opposed to floating through the Universe.

SWIM also recorded a video of the entire event this time to gauge how much time had gone by, and to immediately start talking about what was seen for the purpose of integration/remembering (although integration was not necessary as the message was not hidden). It appears SWIM was asleep on the bed for approximately 7 minutes... time is not something that can be gauged in the trance it is like it's standing still... much more so than mushrooms or LSD. the whole video was 20minutes long but it felt as if SWIM had spent an hour recording it.

The experience was intense and nothing like flying with angels across the universe, and there was some depth to it but this time it wasn't like wrapping paper it was like a dark room, the floating in empty dark space watching the play on stage unfold. SWIM could still sense his/her body throughout although it just didn't matter it was there, just like SWIM opened his/her eyes at one point in it and saw his/her room but it was like opening your eyes after you've already had them opened.. the weirdest sensation..

So what level of breakthrough does it sound like SWIM is experiencing.. is this still threshold effects? SWIM has read so much about large 3-D spaces--even 4-D like situations, however, his/her experiences felt very finite in space, everything right up in his/her face.
SWIM is finally getting his/her .001g scale and fancy smancy lab scoop today so he/she will be able to measure the doses but SWIM has had similar experiences on 10g+ of p. cubensis and was wondering what say, 150-200mg of spice might produce. I know that it's impossible to predict what that amount would do to SWIM compared to SWIY but after a month of training in the various methods of vaporization and seeing the experience of SWIM's friends on much smaller doses.. SWIM is beginning to conclude either a)he/she is really bad at vaporizing it or b)SWIM needs to up the dose because he/she has an unnaturally high tolerance. Also I should note more fictional work of SWIM's: his/her DMT is pure white, re-x'd with heptane after initial naptha pulls, and in SWIM's honest opinion couldn't get purer based on the fact SWIM oversaw the extract his/herself.

I guess I'm just looking for a good coach to help me help swim for consistency and strength of dose... a Spiritual E-shaman if you will, someone to take SWIM under the wing

I can pay you back only by giving you credit for anything that makes it into SWIM's story. I hope to take whatever wisdom I may learn and spread ideas to others to examine, experience, and visualize for themselves.

Thank you all for your time and sorry if this should have been posted in the introduction area! I really do look forward to being a part of this community where everyone seems to be the nicest person I've ever met Also a place where everyone helps everybody for nothing in return is a great place to bounce ideas around about how to help others!

iomegaman

Feeling old at 25! Lol i know what you mean but add ten years on.

The breakthru you describe with the simpson type characters sounds very similar to my early breakthrus. You feel immersed in the experience but it feels like a novice stage breakthru. I would say that at some point you will experience a different type of breakthru, one that will feel more meaningful. Things may become less cartoony and more real looking. You will start to see how the entities can interact with this 3d world. These breakthrus have more substance to them instead of bright cartoony environments.

If you are using a 0.1 scale i would assume that tour doses could be anywhere from 0.05 to 0.15 so its hard to say exactly what you're getting. Invest in a 0.001 scale and you will start to see what your proper breakthru dose is.

Breakthrus come in all sorts of shapes and sizes but you usually know when you've had a proper mindblowing one. It usually involves loads of wtf's and maybe some tears

I would say that there will be deeper more meaningful breakthrus to come for you. Get your mindset sorted before vaping and ask the dmt to show you everything. Just as you think you have it all sussed out though dmt opens a few moor doors and wormholes and it's a whole new adventure

thank you so much for your response and experiences I'm a dry sponge looking to soak up everything anyone has to say on this subject right now!

Thanks for posting omega. First of all, I have to say my "life story", if you will, follows SWIY's very closely, sans the extensive psychedelic use. Quoting SWIY, "everything and anything and trying to find out for myself wtf is up with the world!!" particularly resonated with me.

Concerning SWIY's descriptive trip report, it has given me insight into my own recent adventures. Just tonight I consulted the spice for only the third time (ever). First time 10mg, 2nd 20mg, and tonight was approx 30.

I completely relate with the "everything right up in his/her face" visuals, and the "standard CEV's of fractalizing manadala patterns growing stretching sinking and swimming".. I didn't have any body or ego dissolution, but my body DID feel far less imposing, important, and present so to speak. Kinda felt like I melted or merged a little bit with the bed I was in, but I was still aware of what / where / who I was, but what a scene! I also had the weird sensation upon opening my eyes like, "wtf? but weren't they already opened?".. lol..

So all in all, I feel that relatively speaking I'm still a bit beneath the levels SWIY has hit, because I've certainly not ran into any elves or any entities for that matter. I must say though, I AM enjoying this baby-steps trek up the dosage ladder.

Sorry I can't be of any help in SWIY's dosing issues, but keep it safe and safe journeys!

thanks Loki, much peace and love your way for your future journeys as well Hope to meet you all in hyperspace one day!

Hey brother that life does bring it home a lot.
Yeah that is the key just slow the pace a little, and feel alright.

I think in time you will get what you are expecting and more, i used to get just one completely overall sensation from spice, i have smoked spice for six years now in that time i have smoked 20-30 times usually every 3 months.

But the last 4 or 5 smokes things have started to change, there are layers now dimensions not just a sea but layers.
Since my first breakthrough things have slowly changed, a slight image a face appeared like a hologram half there, it was a cross between a clown and a Mexican candy skull with a crazed laughing energy to it, sometimes it was like its eyes were blasting the energy vibrations onto me, it was not a scary face compared to the intense buzz any way.

And my most recent DMT venture was the first time i approached DMT with much thought i had planned the day for two weeks, and had thought of smoking it nearly 200 times LOL so many outcomes i had imagined, any way the day came and i had already come to terms with smoking it, 'still scared' and i had defined in my mind what i hoped for; I had never had the DMT take on a Fully Formed Entity and i had one question 'What is DMT'?

I smoked it and was granted both answered, this was two weeks ago and i keep remembering more, I think now if i am to smoke with intentions to breakthrough i must first put much thought into this before hand, as i am thinking now DMT is not to be used in vain, and that if one puts enough thought into a venture prior then DMT is infinite. i will see next time maybe?

It always changes.

Doses, i have only fully broke through twice, both times with .50mg crystal- i have only smoked crystal twice.
normal doses are changa 30-45% dmt about 0.1 gram dose.

I only smoke through a water bong, always works and easy, i close eyes while i hold in smoke for at least 10 seconds, i have started fasting before smokes and this last smoke i had worked and not slept for 16 hoursish and i am thinking it helps both with the DMT settling in and with visuals and breaking through but this is all new territory.

Keep up the Loving buds plrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

thanks for taking the time to read and respond sidefx! I'm working on creating an image of the weird gel-like stuff that everything seems to be molded out of in SWIM's breakthroughs.. just yesterday before work I was on chat and SWIM had another breakthrough this one far more intense than any of the others but with the SAME characters lol.. this time they appeared in a different manner though, as if to make SWIM think it was gonna be different but then convince him/her "gotcha! you thought you weren't gonna see the elves this time didnt you?!" Lol, I'm happy to report this breakthrough was a lot less "intimidating" in terms of the entities wanting SWIM to act a certain way.

The stuff that really gets me is the multicolored goo SWIM describes that just spins and stretches and molds into beings, language, rooms, sounds even. The closer SWIM looks at the object/material the more detail it has (like a fractal zoom) and its some of the most beautiful stuff he/she has ever seen!

The dose was over 100mg, SWIM approximated ~150 because it was about 3times as large as the 50mg dose he/she weighed out when I finally got my scale (the dose was already packed into the bong upon arrival of the scale so SWIM went off his memory of it). The dose was smoked out of a water bong and took 3 hits too clear... SWIM was proud because he/she can only ever get 1 before losing control but this time the first hit was primarily herb so I think it helped with getting the DMT liquified first then vaped in the 2nd and 3rd hits by the nice rolling cherry.

Anyway if SWIM could compare this breakthrough to the first with a measuring device... the first 2 were very physical and earth-resonant... this most recent one was more like SWIM's consciousness expanded to solar-system sized as opposed to planetary I hope that makes sense but it seems as if progression is happening--SWIM doesn't want to get to firmly in any one belief about this but it appears (as sidefx hypothesized) the breakthroughs are evolving!

Granted the dosage was increased each time.. the entities in the visions are definitely much more vivid and detailed, and the space of the vision was most absolutely 3 dimensional, it was a red and green square room (much like one of the nexus headers) with insane sacred geometry flowing across the wall.. SWIM was standing in one corner looking across to the other so he/she could see 2 walls of the 4 (the other 2 behind his/her field of view). The elves slowly started to "blink" into and out of existence from the walls and come forth, rapidly pulsating into full materialization. SWIM had the feeling the entire time, however, that he/she was not smoking the DMT right... it was a strange sensation but SWIM isn't sure what to make of it yet as the water bong method is the only thing that brings him/her to these places (same sized doses could not be vaped fast enough in other devices). Opening SWIM's eyes didn't matter with this vision, he/she tried to but this reality was just not here.. it was like CEV's and OEV's were flip-flopped.. when SWIM opened his/her eyes it was just colors and energy like normal CEV's... and upon closing the eyelids it was like the vision was reality!

When the vision finally faded into standard CEV patterns SWIM opened the eyes and couldn't even move.. there were veils of color and patterns over everything in the room and everything was completely alien still--the sounds were the most intense here it was like the machine whirring of a computer.. like being inside a digital "beep" "bop" "boop" "whir" engine of some sort. Also worthy of noting SWIM had the standard shakes after the event so much so he/she could not even walk properly for a good 15minutes after 15minutes of being incapacitated on the bed. The shakes were the most intense thus far (sometimes SWIM shakes uncontrollably sometimes not). This was preceded by the weirdest sensation of having SWIM's "body" (pile of energy is what SWIMs body felt like) picked apart by small hands... like little suctions cups blowing and sucking tufts of air at his/her body all over the place. Has anyone else ever had the sensation of this? It is not uncomfortable at all and confused SWIM greatly during the experience... "What is blowing air on my face? Are there a million tiny faces with little lips puckering and pecking all over me?" Lol hard to explain just hoping someone else has had the sensation too it was wonderful

Overall most humbling and enjoyable and served to ease my doubts about the levels of SWIM's breakthroughs.

Thanks for taking the time to read another long post everyone!

iomega

yeaah i love it reading other peoples journeys imagining what they are describing and all the little things they experience and notice that make it their own awesome iomega.