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vinegar
#1 Posted : 4/25/2012 8:33:46 AM
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Hi, it's my first post of sharing experiences and doubts.
I am a person always involved in art, in philosophy, in science, I am a singer, songwriter, but before all a person who needs to know, to open the curtains of what we call reality and maybe is different from what we think it is.
I tried to approach to DMT with knowledge and respect, and had some experiences. Some many many months ago, but I wasted it all (almost) smoking with a glass bubble kind of vaporizer, except a strange trip where I finally went to a place with people speaking to me and a very loud mechanical sound all everywhere.
This time I had a little 250mg batch of yellow DMT. After a few tests, I decided to smoke it with my vaporization device, it's like this (nt really this model but an analogous one):

http://www.vaporizer-sho...zeD2ZFqw/06294_400_2.jpg

I thought it would work, it has no fire, it works by convection and with herbs is really great. I took more or less 60 mg, the temperature was 235°C, late at night (to be more relaxed and not far from sleep), on the bed. First experience with this device was really mindblowing: first it was like the reality cristallized into another, a little mechanical, I don't know how to explain, everything in the dark was painted with bright colours, babbleing in my ear like they came from hilarious alien gods (it's the closest word to what I felt, all segmented and broken, and then whirling mandalas and fractals (with some "stargate" experiences), and then a blank landscape, with me thinking (i remember it clearly) "Oh, so dying is like this", and all considered a frightening and "dark" experience, until I landed again on my bed.
The other night, after a few days of meditation, study in this site, but also of hard application on my work (I am finishing my studies at the university) and at the gym, I decided I wanted to try another breakthrough (or find that the first time it was not a breakthrough). I began with a lower dose to see what would happen, and then I increased the dose. But I think doses were too low: after the recrystallization moment (it's the only way I could describe it) all melted in a space of mental loops and deja vus, like I was OUT of time, and I thought "I am a dying person who lives again some moments of his life", but I found it pretty dissociative, and not DMT-like, or at least different from what I thought to find. The doses were about 30-50 mg each, I think it was too low, right? It is all I can remember, but it seemed endless...

I don't know when and IF I can experience it again, my batch is over and now I won't have any occasion to have some maybe for years, but in case, you more experienced travellers have some advices for me? bigger doses, different device, lower temperature, etc... I made long puffs that I held in my lungs etc, I don't have problems with this.
One thing is great: it filled me with positive energy, and it's like it wiped away a bit of my selfdestructive attitude, but I feel way far from what I need to know.
Thanks for all.
 

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oden
#2 Posted : 4/25/2012 9:47:32 AM

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we do love the ones that study,do the research,
much respect for your efforts. your dose is high enough plenty have broken through on less.
i like q21q21's tek, very clean and easy

what brought me here was a sadness for a great loss in my faith saw the spirit molocule.
then could not stop my searching,i found this site with a broken heart.
the things i learned,and the help everyone gave me. was more than i could hope for.

i did my first extraction with great hope and love..

and found something no one could ever explane to me. for all my research and homework.
i was rewarded with breakthrough first time, it brought tears to my eyes, from what was shown to me..
and i never looked back or felt the same again

wishing you much luck on all you seek.. Oden
 
smokerx
#3 Posted : 4/25/2012 10:27:00 AM

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Do not worry too much about not having enough dmt to carry on experimenting. This molecule will be here for you whenever you decide to try it again. The most important is to be patient and do proper research. Read all you can here in Wiki about extraction teks and about health and safety plus vaporisation techniques.

Once you know all you need and you have time and safe place you can extract your own dmt. I do not know where you got your 250mg but I guess it was given to you. It is much better to extract it your self. This way you know exactly what you have and you also know it is safe to smoke.

Do not worry and be patient and you will be reworded in no time.



We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another.

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vinegar
#4 Posted : 4/25/2012 10:27:16 AM
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to me, it's like it pushes deep inside my consciousness.. in a place beyond birth and death, where I can clearly see all the loosing which we are caught until we'll wake up.. until now it's not been an outside journey, but an inside one.. it's like to see the machine that creates universe and to see really the matter of our souls and existence..
 
vinegar
#5 Posted : 4/25/2012 10:28:28 AM
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I meant loops, not loosing Smile
 
smokerx
#6 Posted : 4/25/2012 10:31:54 AM

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vinegar wrote:
I meant loops, not loosing Smile


you can edit your own message as many times as you wish no need for new post Wink

We are each of us angels with only one wing, and we can only fly by embracing one another.

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vinegar
#7 Posted : 4/25/2012 11:04:28 AM
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hi smokerx , i did not read your reply. Thank you for your words, it's beautiful to share the same kind of feeling with people that I don't know. yes, I understand that it's a substance that needs respect and a kind of love. a thing that I notice only now, is that before my last experience, I thought intensely that I wanted to see the meaning of human struggling, a kind of understanding of the most sense of life and existence.. maybe it is the reason of the strange journey i made.. pretty Buddhist i think, and I have always been an atheist Smile i will continue my searching when I will be ready (and able to extract, cause you're right, this dmt was given to me Smile)
 
 
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