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#21 Posted : 2/20/2011 8:07:21 AM

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Dont be so mellow dramatic....

A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
late 14c. (early 14c. in Anglo-French), "medicine, chemical ingredients," from O.Fr. droge "supply, stock, provision" (14c.), of unknown origin, perhaps from M.Du. or M.L.G. droge-vate "dry barrels," or droge waere, lit. “dry wares,” but specifically drugs and spices, with first element mistaken as word for the contents (see dry goods), or because medicines mostly consisted of dried herbs. Cf. L. species, in L.L. “wares,” then specialized to “spices” (Fr. épic, Eng. spice). The same source produced It., Sp. droga, Swed. drog. Application to "narcotics and opiates" is late 19c., though association with "poisons" is 1500s. The verb is from c.1600. Druggie first recorded 1968. To be a drug on or in the market (mid-17c.) is of doubtful connection and may be a different word, perhaps a play on drag, which was sometimes drug c.1240-1800.


sacred
c.1300, from pp. of obsolete verb sacren "to make holy" (early 13c.), from O.Fr. sacrer (12c.), from L. sacrare "to make sacred, consecrate," from sacer (gen. sacri) "sacred, dedicated, holy, accursed," from O.L. saceres, which Tucker connects to base *saq- "bind, restrict, enclose, protect," explaining that "words for both 'oath' & 'curse' are regularly words of 'binding.' " But Buck merely groups it with Oscan sakrim, Umbrian sacra and calls it "a distinctive Italic group, without any clear outside connections." Nasalized form is sancire "make sacred, confirm, ratify, ordain." Sacred cow "object of Hindu veneration," is from 1891; figurative sense of "one who must not be criticized" is first recorded 1910, reflecting Western views of Hinduism.



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#22 Posted : 2/20/2011 8:16:42 AM

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wow, thanks for the history lesson. It's really a lot simpler than all that. I don't like the word drugs because of an imagined conotation many people in society have with that word. There was recently talk about how the umbrella term "drug" isn't good for people in communities like ours. Language evolves and changes. Was I melodramatic?
 
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#23 Posted : 4/18/2012 5:07:56 AM

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Would neem be safe while eating peganum harmala seeds?
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#24 Posted : 4/18/2012 6:02:22 AM

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Curiouskid wrote:
Kind of scary here!!... Sperm contain all the energy to create life, so one is deprivating himself so much when ejaculating, or for the lady SWIM doesn't even imagine the quantity of vital force she loose in the process of pregnancy; so creating life everytime one has sex???!!!
Maybe before thinking about the magic pills one has some interests in looking to old technics like in Taoism where the male learns how to master his semens and don't come anymore unless he wants it...

Just saying...


I have read studies that found couples that have sex and orgasms once or twice a week to have stronger immune systems than people who abstain completely. Interestingly people who had sex daily or more times a week than that seemed to have somewhat lowered immunity..

So I dunno..dont have sex or an orgasm every day I guess..just have sex once or twice a week and enjoy it.
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#25 Posted : 4/18/2012 4:45:12 PM
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It's a fallacy to say "semen contains energy so it must be good to preserve it!"

Think of the energy expended while running or exercising. It's healthy. It's what the body is good at. In fact, the male body has the nocturnal emission as a safety valve if normal outlet is not allowed.
 
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#26 Posted : 4/18/2012 9:47:05 PM

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Yerba wrote:
It's a fallacy to say "semen contains energy so it must be good to preserve it!"

Think of the energy expended while running or exercising. It's healthy. It's what the body is good at. In fact, the male body has the nocturnal emission as a safety valve if normal outlet is not allowed.


Kind of OT, but just for the record...

Nocturnal emission only happens if the guy represses the sexual energy without transmuting it up through the higher Chakras via meditation/Qigong/Yoga energy work.

In my experience, as long as attention is not fixated on sexual thoughts, feelings, or stimuli, and is instead focused on creative/spiritual/Dream work, nocturnal emission does not happen.

I've gone for many months without orgasm or ejaculating for the purpose of saving and transforming sexual energy and never once had a nocturnal emission. I'm not saying that the semen itself has energy, but celibacy has definitely helped me feel more focused, energetic, and spiritual.



 
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#27 Posted : 4/18/2012 11:14:18 PM

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SpartanII wrote:
Nocturnal emission only happens if the guy represses the sexual energy without transmuting it up through the higher Chakras via meditation/Qigong/Yoga energy work.

citation. please.
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#28 Posted : 4/18/2012 11:36:20 PM

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SpartanII wrote:


Nocturnal emission only happens if the guy represses the sexual energy without transmuting it up through the higher Chakras via meditation/Qigong/Yoga energy work.






What? I've masturbated in the morning and had a nocturnal emission that same night. Was me masturbating repressing sexual energy? I don't get it . . .
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#29 Posted : 4/19/2012 7:40:50 PM

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Sorry guys, let me rephrase:

In the context of a guy practicing celibacy, nocturnal emission only seems to happen if the guy represses the sexual energy without transmuting it up through the higher Chakras via meditation/Qigong/Yoga energy work.

Citation: Experience reports of people, personal experience.

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#30 Posted : 4/21/2012 11:30:26 PM

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ive isolated the non manske precipitated alkaloids from rue (including vascinine and peginine) and am wondering what the crap should i do with em besides more novelty separations...
 
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#31 Posted : 4/22/2012 5:38:58 AM

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Can't comment about Rue as aphrodisiac or abortificant... though I can say that plants designated as abortificants have been used in aboriginal cultures as birth control since time immemorial. Google it if you like, the examples are too numerous to mention.

It is likely that a fertilized egg will simply not adhere to the uterine wall in situations where the region is under the influence of such chemicals.

I would say that such an event is not truly an abortion, but perhaps at best a miscarriage. At any rate, the morality in this is not universal and I personally can not weigh in on when life begins other than saying that a clump of cells doesn't quite add up to a human life IMHO.

As for the other topics brought up here I do have experience with directly:

NEEM - This does seem to work, and is definitely extremely useful against infections and a host of other troubles. It was Ghandi's pet herb, actually. It is said he offered neem to all his guests, and ate it with every meal. Twigs from the neem tree make excellent impromptu toothbrushes, incidentally. I can not truly vouche for it as a birth control though, because of my consistent reliance on and practice of this next method...

TAOIST SEXUAL TANTRA - As a practitioner of this for well over 25 years, I can say with certainty that this stuff really works if you put in the work. It is possible for men to orgasm without ejaculating and achieve fine tuned control over their semen emission. This is not repression, but rather evolution from a typical short and somewhat anticlimactic male orgasm to something that more closely resembles the female orgasm. It opens the door to multiple orgasms, and the transmutation of sexual energy into higher frequency stuff that can be rather psychoactive. (I don't expect my skeptic rationalist friends to buy any of this, but it is my direct & unequivocal experience... and there are hundreds of books on the subject if anyone wants to do their own research.)

At any rate, I have used my Taoist Sexual Yoga as my only form of birth control for most of these long years (only using condoms with women I didn't know well)... and I have never gotten a woman pregnant or had a single accident. (knock on wood) Hehehehe. I can't in good consciousness recommend this method to all and sundry as it does nothing about STDs and is rather difficult to master. I won't be held responsible for the leaking seed of amateur practitioners. Sexual yoga takes attention and sensitivity in the beginning. You can get to levels where you can pound away for hours like a crazed mustang... but early on you might need to slow down or stop moving fairly regularly as you master your control. Pulling out is NOT equivalent. You have been warned.
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#32 Posted : 3/30/2013 6:36:03 AM

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Nice topic.

In Iran, in case of too much sex activity and so the weakness afterward, Harmala is given to restore sexual energy. it is also used for nocturnal emission.

In Arab countries, mix of Harmala and Date is used to boost sex drive.

It is now rarely used as an abortion. surprisingly a friend of mine, his mom had used god knows how much Harmala for abortion and she ended up to hospital, but it didn't work as my friend is around Big grin
 
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#33 Posted : 3/30/2013 10:49:27 AM

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Very interesting thanks for all the info guys Thumbs up
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#34 Posted : 3/30/2013 8:10:15 PM

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SnozzleBerry wrote:
citation. please.

yes, because there are so many academic peer-reviewed studies on chakras and their effects on nocturnal emissions.
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