well i would like to start off by saying that before i smoked spice the first time i had read ~50 erowid experiences, read DMT: the spirit molecule by Dr. Rick Strassman, and watched the movie DMT: the spirit molecule.

anyway my first two times smoking were well disappointing to say the least. my first trial i used a "glass rose" from a local gas station and not being accustomed to a pipe like that was just a was of about 30mg of spice.

my second trial was better. i put a hole in the lid of an Ice Mountain water bottle the securely fit a 3/8th socket bit which i used the sandwich method but instead of the recommended parsley i used cigarette tobacco with 25mg of spice then more tobacco, another 25mg of spice then a thin layer of tobacco. this method made my peripheral vision vibrate, i had closed eye visuals (pulsating colored rings) and a body high that i can most closely relate to nitrous (from the dentist not recreational) but the third time...

oh this is the one that got me. i had 100mg total. i had a metal pipe this time with a single screen, a layer of crushed parsley, 50mg of spice, and another layer of parsley which my best friend smoked. when he was done i proceded to pack up my bowl full. leaving the ash in the pipe i put 50mg of spice followed by a layer of parsley. and i asked him to count to 15 each time i took a hit then tell me to exhale to let my mind focus on the experience.

and after the 3rd hit i laid back and closed my eyes. and the next thing i know i "woke up" not remembering anything similar to when you fall asleep while texting. you wane up the next day with mild amnesia. but when i opened my eyes i felt as if the pipe had melted into my hand although i had set it on the dresser next to the bed. and you know the feeling of blood dripping down your upper lip when you get a bloody nose, well i had that feeling all over my body and the room was shifting.

i had my friend observe me while i was in my trance like state and he said i was smiling almost constantly, and that i was in a REM state of consciousness. could there be a reason for me feeling as if it was all a dream that i remembered absolutely none of up until i opened my eyes?

Why did you try 50 mg your 2nd and 3rd time?

If you space out your post a little with paragraphs it makes it easier to read. Sounds to me like you were burning most of your spice in the beginning with poor smoking methods. The third time sounds like you got your dose and it hit you hard. I would say lower the dose considerably, do more research on how to vaporize it properly and do it again. Good job on having a friend sit in. I just learned lately that huge doses are not needed. Some people on this forum breakthrough on doses as low as 25mg

that dose may have been too much, too much to comprehend. The first 3-4 times i blasted off i started with one hit-vaporized- ( i dont usually measure my doses)and only got a few tracers, and time felt very very alterd. around my sixth time or soo i decided to try and take 3 hits. I blacked/ whited out, Dont remember a thing, I just woke up on the floor unable to speak and was very confused. For a few friends and I DMT took a little while to warm up to us so to speak. I dont think any of us were quite ready the first few times so our brains blacked out what was"too much". I started over after this experience and worked my way up and the experiences became alot more profound. Ive even found out sometimes less is more...

Thanks for posting. This is very good info for me. I've been reading about the spice for years and finally got offered it by a close friend a few days ago. I declined because I was too hungry and being hypoglycemic I need to eat, otherwise I would start feeling sick (not the best mindset for a trip).

Anyway, when we were going over the vamping procedure I realized after all the research I still may not be ready. Do you recommend just jumping in with both feet, or slowly working up to a breakthrough dose? With other psychs I tend to take the cautious approach.

You fall asleep texting? Do your fingers go through the motions, composing a missive, and you just pass out, phone in hand?

I have been here... coming back in for a landing and feeling like I was asleep for the flight. However... over the next few days... the experiences usually resurface for processing - but right afterward... I felt just like you describe.

The "dripping blood" feeling... I feel like I'm "wet" about 50% of the time I go into hyperspace. It's not an uncomfortable thing for me but it does feel pretty peculiar.

Is it a feeling like you're made of clay?

when i broke through i remember scenes changed in between, like this; there was pressure and then i told myself to relax and then i just fade out of a Black scene and into coloured gems and then i was suddenly in a tunnel.
IT SHOULD COME BACK TO YOU MORE DON'T WORRY.

When i broke through i never did reach the end of the tunnel, maybe you did?


The first time i ever smoked spice was 'Dream time herbal blend', and i remember my mindset i had a distinct feeling like i knew this event was going to happen or i knew what was happening, even though i had 'NEVER' even heard of DMT my Mate insisted i HAD to try it, it was like de ja vu, i described it to my brother like i had already done this but had just reached the event in time.


The feeling it is strange but seems to not be so alarming at first and after a while it becomes conscious and is always growing.

any one relate?
i just had my 3 month cone a few hours ago, still awed.
I am going to read more experiences

thanks everyone for their replie.

well ill fall asleep mid text, wake up, continue the text and send it. but when i wake up the next day ill read through my messages and the text that i finished half asleep will be complete jibberish lol
and sadly none of the information has come back to me but im going to try a smaller dose today. im thinking about rolling a joint of weed but sprinkle some dmt in with it. i know i wont breakthrough but who knows