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steve355
#1 Posted : 4/5/2012 3:24:40 PM

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Satisfied with my extracted spice I carefully load my VG with a mound of beautiful fluffy white crystals. I am excited, but at the same time at peace.

I clean my room and prepare a peaceful setting for my first voyage into hyperspace. I pause momentarily to consider why travelers call it hyperspace - whatever, I'm sure I'll learn soon enough.

With my preparations complete I set the loaded VG on my bed and begin a series of vipassana breathing exercises to calm my mind. Overcome with excitement I'm unable to finish - its time to travel.

I turn the lights out, fire the torch and begin a long, slow pull.

The smoke is absolutely awful. Harsh, I think, is a generous understatement. Nevertheless I remind myself to, "hold it in as long as you... *COUGH*"

*COUGH*

*COUGH*

I begin to hack and cough uncontrollably. Before the wretched, god awful smoke even clears the air, I hear it...

"KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

The sound rushes into me and completely occupies my entire auditory field. There is only the sound...

In an act which I can only now see was driven by greed, I hastily take another pull from my VG. The arc of the torch is a burning blue obelisk in an otherwise completely dark space. I would like to consider its beauty but I'm overcome with the desire for more spice and the DMT is now demanding the surrender of my vision. I resist only long enough for one more pull.

The second pull is equally awful. This time I am not afforded the luxury of exhaling. Instead, I forcibly hack the smoke from my lungs.

Enter the fetal position...

Regret begins to arise before it is quickly extinguished by a tsunami of geometric visuals.

"This must be the veil" I tell myself.

I try and tell myself to surrender to the Clear Light, but I am still consumed by the most intense coughing fit. "No intention, no expectation." I try to form these thoughts but am still completely consumed by my body's coughing and physical upheaval.

I observe this "veil;" it operates free from my influence.

At this point everything is coming at me so fast my thoughts feel light years away from the observations they seek to address... the genesis of every piece of pre-columbian South American art and architecture is now abundantly clear.

In an instant I am confronted with my own death. In an instant it arises and falls.

It's all happening so fast that I realize that my participation in this event is irrelevant... my desire to participate is childish and not well taken.

The high pitched "KKKNNNNEEEE" audio transforms into what I can only describe as a psychedelic "whip it." Overcome by the "waa-waa's" the visceral portions of my mind scream death - but somehow I have an understanding that the DMT is joking. When my mind laughs the DMT echos the laughter and abandons its ploy of death. Somehow we (i.e. the DMT and I) agree that the death game was funny.

The visuals of humanities forgotten past violently assault me in a strange but mutual understanding that this is all just a joke (albeit at my expense).

Then it stops... From light speed to rest - instantly.

I open my eyes, turn on the lights, and consensus reality begins to return. My drapes resist this consensus and continue to wave and waffle against the walls.

"What the fuck was that!?" I think.

"What the FUCK was that?!"

I look at the chronograph I set - seven minutes have past.

AFTER THOUGHTS: DMT is not what I thought. The paradox of trying to match a DMT experience with thoughts now seems comically futile to me. Everything happens so fast that I cannot imagine gaining any useful knowledge from this goliath. But perhaps I'm wrong. Post DMT my imagination feels small and inept relative to the "nuclear cannon" of DMT. I need to go back.
 

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#2 Posted : 4/5/2012 3:36:42 PM

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hello steve355, how you doing?

sounds like a crazy introduction to DMT, mine was quite similar full on madness. Dont worry about the learning thing as you get to know DMT you will understand how to learn from it.

Only advice is that it sounds like you are burning your spice, try a little less heat next time, the vapour from a VG should be nice and smooth, not harsh at all.
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#3 Posted : 4/5/2012 3:46:54 PM

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lol that was pretty much my first response: "Where the FUCK was I just now!!??"

I absolutely agree that you shouldn't have any expectations going into the experience, but personally I always try to set an intention before I take any psychedelic. I feel like it helps. I see your still new to posting on the forum so you maybe haven't heard my rants about a personal entity I have communication with when I enter the DMT state. The few times I have not set an intention to have a meeting with the particular being I get taken for a ride that I have extreme difficulty making sense of later. Actually in all honesty if I don't set an intention beforehand I'm lucky if I can remember anything about the trip at all.

The sound is trippy isn't it? Hard to describe and impossible to emulate in real life imo. I remember when I first heard it I had described it as "I'm hearing something... sort of like dial up internet but not like that at all really, just in the way that it's unnatural and not produced by anything I know of in nature."

Welcome to the rabbit hole brother. It goes deep...
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#4 Posted : 4/5/2012 4:00:31 PM

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Nice! I know exactly how you felt... the first time I returned I was just one big smiling shrug, mouth wide open, with a finger in the air, searching to find ANY word worth using... I found none.

Welcome!

Also, (I'm pretty new too) I find that the learning/integration lags behind the experience. For me, it takes my brain/consciousness a few days to start to piece together these experiences and have even a part of the overall big picture. It's like Spice dumps me out of the cosmic swirl with a completely unassembled cosmic jigsaw puzzle that my mind then begins working on. I'm quite sure it's not even done with the very first puzzle I got 2 weeks ago but that experience is more clear to me than 5 minutes after it occurred.
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#5 Posted : 4/5/2012 4:04:08 PM

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Nice read=)
I would also suggest maybe less heat. I've never had any trouble at all with DMT smoke, in fact, its hardly even noticeable to me (I have super lungs!).
As far as the learning part, it seems to me that its a process, and like MOST things in life, the more you do it, the better you'll be.
I don't feel I've ever broken through, and I don't mind one bit!
One thing I have noticed, is that sometimes when I go on a journey, I remember things from the other times I was there, and totally forgot. It was my 3rd journey before I realized what I was seeing was an entity, and that I had seen it the past 2 journeys and totally forgot. NOW I remember.
I find many things like that.
I'm still new at this as well, but I am grateful for these journeys and I look forward to learning whatever I can from them.
Much respect!
 
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#6 Posted : 4/5/2012 5:50:28 PM

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Thanks for the support and encouragement!

I will try less heat in the future. I had a feeling heat was a problem. (manly because of the amount that I was burning through). Next time I am going to try the "herb sandwich" method. I am hoping that cannabis will ease me in and also take some of the bite out of the smoke.
 
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#7 Posted : 4/5/2012 5:59:48 PM

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steve355 wrote:
Thanks for the support and encouragement!

I will try less heat in the future. I had a feeling heat was a problem. (manly because of the amount that I was burning through). Next time I am going to try the "herb sandwich" method. I am hoping that cannabis will ease me in and also take some of the bite out of the smoke.


As I am still learning as well, heres a couple things Ive picked up.

The herb sandwich method is a decent way to go, but I found that using a small bong for this makes a HUGE difference. huge.
I have a sherlock GVG, which takes some getting used to, for me at least, but I think it's going to be my preffered method before to long.
I love cannabis, but have found that mullein is FANTASTIC for herb sandwiches as it burns evenly and is very smooth.
Figuring all this stuff out is rather enjoyable.
Respect=)
 
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Welcome to the rabbithole<3
yes i agree your heat is too close causing burnt spice...
other than that... much respect on the jump.
About the sound..lol..the first jump i made was not measured.. do not recommend..
when the sound engulfed me it was like 5 trains all around me. hitting their horns at the same time..
also after a few jumps. i got the ego death..changed my life..goodluck with future adventures<3 Be safe!
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#9 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:06:13 PM

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DeMolecularTraveler wrote:
I love cannabis, but have found that mullein is FANTASTIC for herb sandwiches as it burns evenly and is very smooth.


I second that
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#10 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:21:03 PM

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What is mullein and where can I get it?

Thanks in advance.
 
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#11 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:23:35 PM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullein

google is your friend =) Its very cheap and readily available.
 
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#12 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:27:38 PM

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You may be able to gather it. It's very common and easy to ID
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#13 Posted : 4/5/2012 6:59:29 PM

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I find that vaping weed is harsher than DMT so that might be worth thinking about if your going for smoothness.

If your gonna do the sandwich method it might be worth making some enhanced leaf/herb instead. Dissolve your DMT in some ipa then add your chosen herb to the ipa and allow to dry.

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#14 Posted : 4/5/2012 7:00:51 PM

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I found it in a "tea form" is it possible to smoke it like that?
 
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#15 Posted : 4/5/2012 7:06:09 PM

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I would look into an herb company. Mullein is completely legal and not controversial at all so it should be really easy to find.
If you're in the US I can PM you a couple of my favorite herb companies.
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#16 Posted : 4/5/2012 8:42:18 PM

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Dudes you have to watch your doses , this stuff will tell you what its not in short order.

You need to proceed with caution . Never assume its all good . That's when it will kick your ass hard.

Maintain vigilence at all times.

Mullein is essential part if the puzzle .
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#17 Posted : 4/5/2012 9:46:49 PM

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Tek wrote:

The sound is trippy isn't it? Hard to describe and impossible to emulate in real life imo. I remember when I first heard it I had described it as "I'm hearing something... sort of like dial up internet but not like that at all really, just in the way that it's unnatural and not produced by anything I know of in nature."



"dial up internet" - priceless and true
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"Man fears time, but time fears the Pyramids" - 9th century Arab proverb
 
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Beautifully written account. Thanks for sharing Smile

I'm surprised your smoke was harsh with a VG. Maybe there's a difference between the glass one and other ones?

Before I tried DMT, I was worried about accounts of really harsh smoke, since I've been gradually weaning my pot-smoking lungs from bong hits, to vapor, to eating it. With my gvg, I was pleasantly surprised to find that the smoke is very smooth.

My guess would be that either you're holding the lighter too close to the bowl and it's overheating, or maybe your spice has impurities in it? If it tastes like burnt plastic, that's a sign you're burning it. If it tastes like something else, then my guess would be impurities or overheating.

Love shouldn't hurt Smile

Either way, great report, and good luck in your future voyages

 
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#19 Posted : 4/6/2012 3:33:59 PM

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red_lego_spaceman wrote:
If it tastes like burnt plastic, that's a sign you're burning it.


You're right. It tasted like plastic melting in a bonfire! I'm going to approach my next voyage more conservatively.

Thank you for your kind words.
 
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#20 Posted : 4/6/2012 7:19:09 PM

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I second the enhanced mullein idea. MUCH better than making a sandwich. Then you can smoke it in a bong with a bit less attention to technique. Make it 1 to 1 and weigh your doses. Start conservatively (at 30-40mgs of dmt/leaf combined), clear the dose each time and work your way up as you're feeling comfortable. You'll find the sweet spot, though it will pretty much always chew you up and spit you out. That's just what it does. If you don't care for being chewed and spat, this may not be the drug for you.

Mullein in a liquid herbal extract is quite handy as well, and can be found in any health food store. It's a natural expectorant, and will help allow for bigger and easier inhalations. If you're looking for something to "take the bite out of the smoke", that's a good place to start.

I would advise you to skip the weed, at least until you get your bearings. Weed will cloud and dumb down the experience, though it can be wonderfully euphoric. Better (imo) to explore sublingual harmalas. They slow the pace just a hair and (for me) add a slightly more personal component, but they also tend to raise the stakes, deepening an already ridiculous intensity and multiplying the body load.

Finally, lessons learned aren't ordered or linear, and for me at least, the overriding message is usually as simple as "you don't know shit". That can be a powerful lesson, however, and one that (when I hold it close) tends to serve me well. I'm not looking for tomorrow's lottery picks or words of wisdom from another dimension. I just want to participate in the mystery. The beauty I encounter is enough.
 
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