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dreadz88
#1 Posted : 4/3/2012 6:37:08 PM
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______After what seemed to be an eternity I was flooded with pulsating waves of color. Lost, but slightly held onto the conceptions of reality my brain has created around me. I saw my friends curiously waiting to hear from me. I closed my eyes and I was gone. I was left lying down on some sort of operating device with 4 beings standing around me. It seemed rather mechanical in nature, as if this had been done thousands of times before. I couldn't make out who was standing over me, just 4 outlines, with one very powerful figure that seemed to be in control. I heard machines and felt that those around me were starting to feel unnerved, rather anxious really.

Then voices started to appear. I hear over and over, "We can't pull him through, his brain is too aware of what is happening". They kept repeating this and I felt as though my mind was being pulled more toward them. The fear in the voices proceeded to become more serious. I remember hearing, "stop you're going to hurt him, he isn't ready for this". I began to felt anxious because I really wasn't sure what was going on. I felt as though somebody was operating on me, for anyone who has been through surgery -( that feeling when you wake up on the operating table at it seems to be a dream state, but you are fully aware of what is happening. They tell you to close your eyes and you seemingly wake up after the surgery as if nothing happened.)

The next thing I heard was a very frightened and overly rushed demand to, "wake up now! . I opened my eyes the waves were much more intense now. I was overcome with a general sense of euphoria and had a bout of laughter that echoed throughout the small apartment we were sitting in. I felt wonderful and slightly less aware of anyone. I felt alone and had I began to feel as though my mind was being pulled out of my body. I immediately fell into a state of paralysis. I couldn't move and, I felt frozen. I closed my eyes and I was back to the familiar scene.

The figure that seemed to be in charge of the operation communicated with me, "we're getting you to come over, and we need your help with something". I felt as though I was passing through some sort of static wall. I don't know how to describe it. I felt as though a beam had encompassed my body and I was surrounded by electricity. Again I heard the other 3 beings asking to stop the procedure as I was too aware of what was going on, and that it would ruin everything. Requests began to turn into demands and right as I was about to "crossover" I felt as though I had been flipped in a circle.

I was now lying on another table; my mind had encompassed somebody else's body. I could see them trying to save this person. He was what I assumed to be dying. They were using what seemed to be defibrillators on this person, shocking him over and over. While the figure in charge was scream, "No, don't go, we need you". The other 3 seemed to comfort him and said, "don't worry, now is the not the time, you know this. He will return". The room faded to black, yet my mind was still present. I was aware of everything.

I was still in the original room, I was still in this new "operating room", my brain was back in the apartment and I felt as though I was sitting on a couch, and finally my brain was in this dark limbo. I had just died, but I died as somebody else. My mind was in 4 different places at once. After I opened my eyes back up, I was feeling better and about 45 minutes had passed. I had to leave; I was very disturbed by all of this. I thought this was supposed to be a wonderful molecule.
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A little background on myself - I'm relatively experienced with my adventures. I had take an maoi about 45 minutes before lift off. I still don't think I've "broken through" based on my reading and what friends tell me they have experienced. Can anybody relate to this experience? I seem to be a little more sensitive than most people when it comes to dosages and experiences. Perhaps in a few weekends I'll try again, but as for now I'm hesitant to venture back.
 

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DogMaTea
#2 Posted : 4/3/2012 7:34:57 PM

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Thanks for sharing that. But no it's not supposed to be a wonderful molecule. I was also naive going into it. But if you read Strassman's "The Spirit Molecule" and the results from DMT experiments with 60 volunteers, you'll see that he clearly states that DMT can take you to the gates of Heaven or Hell. I'm not sure how we get on this mistaken notion of DMT somehow guaranteeing a good experience. But the one thing I'm finding out is there are no guarantees and no one who truly understands the experience has promised otherwise. I know one thing for certain - it's unpredictable. I've had both wonderful, wonderful experiences and experiences of sheer terror and insanity. (I'm also well experienced with other psychedelics and am sensitive to dosages. It usually only takes me 1/2 of what other require to get to the same level.)

Some people in this forum have related nothing but positive experiences but if you look at the posts from those who have experimented a lot with DMT you'll see that it's a completely unpredictable mixed bag.
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mindatlarge1389
#3 Posted : 4/3/2012 7:46:45 PM

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first welcomeSmile and second as a new member your going to find out the more you brake things down on here into paragraphs the easier it is for people to read and follow your story. that said you deff. broke through. just not as far as some of us get but that takes time. you smoalked had your brain shot out of a cannon into what id call the fourth dimension. iv seen the outlines a dozen times or so but have never taken a maoi pre flight lol.

iv never had the feeling like i was being operated on though. iv died mannnyyy times and been reborn into my body sometimes not knowing my own name or what iv done in my life like im being born for the first time all over again. its a scary thing man and any one who says different is lying i dont care how many time you blast off when you feel like you have died and spent a 100+ years in another world theres times were you think what if i dont wake up what if im traped here or worse when you actually believe that you are dieing and then you open your eyes and your still alive. iv been reborn into my body and spent 20 mins crying because i was so upset to be back here insted of this awe inspiring love filled place that i was in.

i dont know you or your past experiences with dmt or other things but its really something that isnt for everyone. as much as i want to just make it rain dmt on people so they know whats going on around them i know that its almost as serious as playing with a gun.its up to you where you want to go dmt is just the path u walk to get there. but it most certanty is nottt for everyone lol
please dont take anything i say seriously im extremely irresponsible and i apologize in advance for anything iv said.
 
dreadz88
#4 Posted : 4/3/2012 9:37:14 PM
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I appreciate all words of wisdom -

I have a few things to address. I apologize for the poor writing. I was in a hurry before class and really wanted to get a post in. I've been wondering about this experience for several days now.

As for calling a "wonderful molecule" I suppose that was me being negligent with my wording. It seems as though all of the experiences i've read about and have heard about seem to be overwhelmingly positive.

As per the whole "breaking through" I still question whether or not I actually did. I always here about these wonderful complex geometric patterns and colors. This experience was attempt # 3 in about as many days. It was generally all black with the assumption that those "operating on me" were more sensed, rather than actually seen. The fast colors I had experienced seemed to be very psychedelic-ly compared to that of a level 3 boomer experience.

The maoi is a wonderful way to increase the effects and is generally pleasant, so I suggest taking it only if you have done your research and are aware of the dietary restrictions. I'm thinking I will have an oral dose with the maoi in the very near future.
I'm glad you've taken the time to answer the questions I've halfheartedly posed. The whole "death" experience was very difficult for me to comprehend and left me feeling a bit off for the next day or so. I'm glad that is a some what common experience.

I've recently gotten back into psychedelic experiences. I guess you could say I was an "abuser" or was taking them to get "high" like most people are. Now I'm here for the experiences and personal understandings. DMT is very power, and I've come to understand that. I need to be more careful, but I like pushing myself. Perhaps I'll give it a go Thursday and let everyone know how it goes.
 
 
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