So we drank this brew again yesterday.

Both minxx and I were going to shoot for 40g, but we split up 40g into 2 doses each so that we could just take 20 first and judge it. Keep in mind that I had brewed this ayahuasca so that 80g was a dose, and so with 80 of the tea there would be .5g mimosa and .5g chaliponga. I brew it that way becasue sometimes I only want very very small bits of light..If I want more I have a mimosa brew in the fridge to drink after.

So at 20g of this brew you can imagine there is barely any DMT..like 1/8th of a gram of mimosa and 1/8th of a gram of chaliponga.

I drank 20g of this tea and then waited. Within 10 minutes I realized it was hitting me real hard and that I probly should not take the other 20g. This was very surprising to me..I know this caapi was very potent..but that potent?

I mean I was having trouble walking around at even 20g..and this caapi is also unlike any other caapi I have had in it's effects..it is not just more potent..it is a different sort of experience..obviously it is harmalas you can tell that when you drink it..but it is not ecstatic for one, like I am used to with caapi..there are moments where it is euphoric and ecstatic but they are like the eye of the storm.

This caapi is dark. It is dark and this dreadful sort of feeling washes over you. The tremmor effect with this vine is also very prominant. It makes me shake alot. I feel disoriented. Minxx says it makes her feel like she is "falling out of her body" and that is exactly right..when I drank 80 that is just what happened over and over..I literally was falling out of my body into the spirit world.

I dont see all kinds of colorful visions and jungle animals like neon birds etc with this vine like I am used to with other vines..the visions are dim and dark but very powerful. The brew feels threatening..takes you to a very dark place..but not that that is bad. It is a wonderful thing in retrospect to be shown your darkness.

This is also the most "vibrational" ayahuasca I have ever worked with..heavy heavy vibrations and tracers that incapacitate me..there is also this crazy strobing effect.

So I had that 20g with the tiny ammount of DMT in it and I am thinking I cant drink any more of this. I just finished purging out of my ass like 20 minutes in and am having trouble walking back to my room. I had poured 1 g of mimosa tea in a shot glass to take after I drank that 40g, so instead of taking any more of the caapi I just drank half that mimosa..only .5g -.6g or so of mimosa plus the small ammount that was in the brew..thats all the DMT I took.

10 minutes later the DMT is hitting me! Its not overwhelming but it is active enough for me to be having very clear mimosa closed eye visuals..but they are dark and dim, colored by the caapi. I was very surprised that such a small ammount of mimosa is even active visually at all, let alone with just 20g of caapi!

I felt overwhelmed by the shakes though and this dark feeling of dread from the caapi but it was not really bad. I just rolled with it. Having drunk 4 times this much of the same brew plus much more mimosa and made it through that thing gave me some peace. I felt much more experienced with this energy. It started to freak minxx out though. She drank 25g of the brew and took no extra mimosa..and she is used to 100g doses of vine and larger..I had to rub her back for a while as she rocked back and forth to deal with it..something about this vine is just really disorienting..

It did not last too long though..we were comming back down 2 hours after we drank so that was good. Afterwords I feel really really good from this brew..just the peak is very dark and not so ecstatic..only for moments it seems and then you spiral back into being overwhelmed with heavy shakes darkness..but after you pass through that stage you feel sooooo blissed out and peaceful. There is for sure something vibrational going on when I peak on this medicine.

This brew is also very very emetic for me.

I know that it is not just me, because I have worked with another brew 2 times sinse I drank this brew the first time and it was not like this at all..

I think I will save this brew for just drinking every other week or once a month or something becasue it is so special and powerful. I probly wont ever drink more than 30g of this vine from now on though and maybe only 20. Maybe I will take more than that just once before it is all gone though..

I really dont know what is going on with this vine to make it so active at only 20g for us and to have a different character like this..maybe it is high in harmaline or something. I would not give this brew to anyone who is not very well aquianted with ayahuasca and higher doses of harmalas. It is like advanced ayahuasca..dark ayahauasca or something. I feel like other vines I have worked with are the "vine of souls" and this stuff is the "vine of the dead"..sort of like how people say 5meo is compared to NN..

I'm just curious... How familiar are you with the chaliponga you used? Do you think the chali caused some of your extreem disasociation?
I'm new to aya. I'm trying my first brew of 56gs of white this friday (0 dmt admix). I think i'll take the caapi in two doses... With some dmt (no chali) brew later in the night, if it seems apropriate. I'm an aquarian too happy birthday!

i underestimated some mushrooms once and this sounds familliar to that trip where i ate 2.5 grams of aborts from previously tested most potent p cubensisive ive ever known (ive grown 3 strains, bought numerous, and picked wild plentifully) . terrified by things like gyrating collapsing/expanding shapes mechanicaly that whirred in the most sinister of fashions. like buzzsaws. later through other tryptamine experiences ive seen these shapes and learned to understand they are the physical language of hyperspace, i call them jesus juice as they slid on a liquid layer seemingly. your smur.

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i didnt go to the clinic because i was too afraid and knew the mushrooms were safe, im glad i stayed as it paved my way to letting go when i had my first aya breakthrough, the dissintergration of reality so to speak followed the same suit and during the aya session (my 7th) i had peace with letting go because she empowered my acceptance.

love brother, thanks for sharing.
and yes, dont ever underestimate powerful medicines :3

I have been drinking this same batch of chaliponga for over a year..so no it was not the chaliponga. It was for sure the vine..though the vine did potentiate the admixtures more than I expected because the vine was so potent.

I have been drinking this same batch of chaliponga for over a year..so no it was not the chaliponga. It was for sure the vine..though the vine did potentiate the admixtures more than I expected because the vine was so potent.

Wow Jamie, I just read this post. OMFG, that is amazing. Love the way you described that. I want to get to that place someday. I'm planning my first pharma trip coming up soon, you have been helping me out with what to do in some other posts. But, I read some stuff in hear that I am not familiar with.

1. Mimosa Tea - Is that taking MHRB and boiling it, then straining out the bark and then drinking the liquid?

2. Chaliponga - What is that? Never heard this mentioned anywhere but this thread.

3. When you are tripping that hard...like you say you are going thru wormholes and are in another universe....do you still know that you are in your house? Do you still realize what is going on?

4. You said you were vomiting every 2 minutes....does this eventually end so that you can just sit back and enjoy the ride?

For starters..I do not normally vomit that much..once or twice/few times and then it is over is the norm. Sometimes I dont vomit at all, other times I just dry heave a few times...this time though I was hunched over a bucket for a long time and even moving my head back and forth would make reality literally trail itself into hyperspace and I would get soooo nauseated..with ayahuasca I do not typically get alot of nausea, it is easy to manage and the purge is not bad..at doses like this though yes there can be alot of nausea for quite some time.

When I was in those wormholes..no I was not really "aware" of my body at the peak of those wormhole experiences. I would be aware of my body when I closed my eyes and the wormhole thing would begin, but then I would be sucked into it and out of my body and be there for a time and them come back to my body and get sick again..and then finally sit back close my eyes and repeat..so it was like I was in and out of body awareness..just got to sort of grab ahold of something and hang on!

Keep in mind though this was a very large dose of ayhuasca that noone would want to start with or jump into without lots of experience and at lower doses you can still have amazing visions and tons of healing and not be THAT for out or that sick.

Mimosa tea is just that..a brewed tea of mimosa hostilis rootbark and yes it is boiled, filtered and then reduced . I usually brew 40g at a time and reduce it down so that 1 teapsoon = around 2 grams. This tea should last some time in the fridge bottled and you want to start with anywhere from 1-4g.

Chaliponga is another admixture. It is a DMT containing leaf used in the amazon by some tribes in ayahuasca very much like the way chacruna is used, except chaliponga is stronger.

Wow, thanks. You are the man!