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corduroy
#1 Posted : 3/6/2012 4:19:29 PM
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Wut? Hello all. First off by checking my post number you can see I am brand new here.
I just posted a intro essay yesterday (Titled--Greetings to all) if anyone wants to know more,
but I have a quick question I hope. My question is regarding the breakthrough.
I've attempted vaping 25mgs of spice on three separate occasions now. Each time using the GVG.
My problem seems to be technique and coughing out a portion of the hit.

1st attempt--- cough while holding 1st hit in and after my 3rd hit zippo, nothing nada

2nd attempt--- cough again but much less and kept some vape in. Something was building in my
head but soon dissipated after coughing and not being able to get more vape in.
I did get very very minor CEV's for a few minutes.

3rd attempt--- had the wife help and watch the GVG as it filled with vapor. I was trying to
really gauge how fast it was vaping and breathing in as slow as possible (what
I've read over and over here is about breathing in real slow w/ the GVG)
I did cough but definitely got more in. I then did begin to trip slightly
(altered perception--couch patterns warping and breathing). After a few
minutes all felt pretty normal, but I got a little frustrated and quickly
loaded up another 25mgs. Vaped again, coughed again but this time it was
different!!!! Here is what happened which is followed by a question (my main
reason for posting):

On last exhale, vision warped severely and with eyes closed I felt no longer in
my living room. Not really anywhere though. Began to see mandalas but all
visions seemed just out of view. There,but hard to see, almost distant and
slightly blurry. I did sense an eyeball just out of view above and too my
left. i did feel like I saw it also, but it was more of strong feeling that it
was there. Kind of like it was trying to see me better but just out of view.
When I did not think things came closer. Whenever I cognitively
realized what i was seeing the images would pull back. I instantly thought
this was important and to just clear my mind to see better visions, but it was
hard not to think about them. Eventually it all just seemed to slip further and
further away til all was back to normal.

Now the question for those still reading... For those in the know, how close to a breakthrough was I on that last attempt?? I am sure many of you guys have had many more experiences than I with DMT with and without having a breakthrough. Obviously, every bodies experiences are individual and different but I am hoping that some guidance will point out that I was close based on others past experiences. Just do not get how others get one dose in one hit with GVG?? I seem to be ok at first while inhaling vapor, but every time there was a sudden surge of more vapor than I could handle all at once. Keep in mind each dose was exactly 25mg which I am guessing is on the low end.
Any advice or ideas is much appreciated. Otherwise thank you for taking the time to read all this for 1 small questions.

Thanks
Corduroy
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DMaTeo
#2 Posted : 3/6/2012 4:35:17 PM

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i know im a bit of a newbie also if you check my posts but i just recently had the same troubles so i can offer some help. i also have a gvg and it took me a while to get the technique right. i would have the same problem where it would take too long for all of the spice to get vaped and as you may know you only have about a thirty second window from the first hit to get enough dmt in your lungs to break through.

my first breakthrough came with a 40 mg hit and all i did was pull the lighter flame a little harder than usual so it would heat up faster. i got two big hits where after exhaling i was basically in the exact same place you just described. after that my friend grabbed the pipe and told me to just breathe in while he lit the pipe and i held in the last hit until it zeroed out. immediately after exhaling the world around me that was intensely vibrating and dissolving was no longer there..total breakthrough.

after this i read some threads about this also and found that my technique still had room for improvement. for the gvg the best way to do it is to pre melt the spice into the screens for about 2-4 seconds then set it down take a few deep breaths and then begin to vape it. this will cause it to all vape at once resulting in one enormous hit of all the dmt in the pipe. when doing this technique 25 mg is enough for a breakthrough for most people as it is extremely effective in vaping ALL of the spice.

p.s. if you have a problem with coughing which i sometimes do too, you can simply take more medium sized hits in faster succession than one gigantic hit, but remember the thirty second rule. good luck hope this helped
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corduroy
#3 Posted : 3/6/2012 5:16:24 PM
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Thanks DMaTeo. Any input and experiences are valuable to me at this point.
I can be a bit of a perfectionist with things and when you read so many people
here say, " a one hit full dose is simple in the GVG for a breakthrough...", it makes for a little frustration Mad . Or even better, "it's not even like vapor, it's like breathing in warm air.." etc.. Guess I need more practice with technique Very happy Very happy
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DMaTeo
#4 Posted : 3/6/2012 5:25:12 PM

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no prob corduroy and yea its a lot of trial and error and nothing is sadder than to be on that final frontier before breaking through and seeing it slowly slip away. but try to pre melt it because everywhere i look this is the technique that seems to be the key. also make sure you are using 6-8 screens so your melted spice does not fall to bottom of pipe.

also there seems to be a lot of emphasis placed on a high quality torch lighter. i do not own one and as i said i have broken through without one but i am thinking about making the investment because everyone says this is the last step to making a breakthrough a sure fire thing.
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