 The Rhythmic Dúnedain
Posts: 293 Joined: 07-Jul-2011 Last visit: 07-Jul-2014 Location: Omicron Persei 8
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Hello all, Pretty soon here I was planning on making my first batch of changa of the electric sheep variety and first off I was wondering what is a good ratio of dmt to harmalas to herbs. I was planning on using about a gram or maybe a little more in the batch so I was wondering how much harmine would be good to add and then how much blue lotus and calea to put the harmalas and dmt on. Also i was wondering if my understanding of the changa process is correct which is that you dissolve your harmalas and dmt in either ipa or acetone and then let them evap onto the herbs on a plate or glass dish. Is this right? I know there's probably a bunch of ways to do it on the wiki but from what i understand this is the best way, correct? GRacias What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead we assume - so we're played we confide - so we're deceived we trust - so we're betrayed
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Posts: 1999 Joined: 13-Jun-2011 Last visit: 24-Jun-2018
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To start off I would try 150mg harmalas:1g spice:1g leaf. Dissolve the harmalas in warm/ hot ipa and add the spice. Use just enough ipa to cover the leaf. I use a shot glass, which I leave near an open window. Give it a stir every few hrs until the leaf has soaked everything up and is dryish, then you can spread it out on a dish for a day or two to dry out completely, smoalk and enjoy! Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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 The Rhythmic Dúnedain
Posts: 293 Joined: 07-Jul-2011 Last visit: 07-Jul-2014 Location: Omicron Persei 8
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Purges wrote:To start off I would try 150mg harmalas:1g spice:1g leaf. Dissolve the harmalas in warm/ hot ipa and add the spice. Use just enough ipa to cover the leaf. I use a shot glass, which I leave near an open window. Give it a stir every few hrs until the leaf has soaked everything up and is dryish, then you can spread it out on a dish for a day or two to dry out completely, smoalk and enjoy! Sweet thanks man. I'm a newb when it comes to harmalas so is it ok to use harmine freebase in changa? I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work but are there any safety concerns with using harmine freebase? Also I'm going for that ayahuasca feel that everyone says changa has. Will 150 mg of harmine freebase be adequate to get the huasca feel or should I use more? Like i said I'm a newb when it comes to this stuff so sorry if this is redundant. What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead we assume - so we're played we confide - so we're deceived we trust - so we're betrayed
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Posts: 1999 Joined: 13-Jun-2011 Last visit: 24-Jun-2018
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I dont know about straight harmine freebase as I use caapi extract freebase, but Im sure it will do the job. I have only done low dose pharma so far, so cant really comment how aya like it is likely to be, but if you can always boost the harmala by smoking some before the changa. I use anywhere from 100-250mg per gram or so of spice and that seems like plenty to me, some like a minimal amount just for potentiation, but I like the heavy meditative buzz of a more generous amount. In fact my best blend so far was 750mg spice and 250mg harmalas. Maybe making a couple of blends, one with moar, and one with less and see which suits you best  Lose Control, Free My Soul, Break Me Open, Make Me Whole."DMT kicked my balls off" - od3
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 The Rhythmic Dúnedain
Posts: 293 Joined: 07-Jul-2011 Last visit: 07-Jul-2014 Location: Omicron Persei 8
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thanks a ton Purgarino  your advise will soon be put to practice to get me hyperspaced What are we but stupefied dancers to a discordant stystem, we believe - so we're mislead we assume - so we're played we confide - so we're deceived we trust - so we're betrayed
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