Hello.

This is my first spice extraction I will do.
I want to share the proces and will have some questions on the way.

My choise was to work with Vovin's tek.
Why ?

Well I have a one liter bottle of extracted and reduced mhrb.
So it makes sence to me to go with Vovin.

I am not shure huch much MHRB is in the bottle. I remember it should be between 400 and 500 grams.
I have had this bottle for about 4 years.
The MHRB extraction was a cold one with demineralized water.
The Ph was brought down around 4.0 with food grade phosphoric acid. Before I started I messured the PH it was 4.0
This bottle wase decanted many times en has no sediment at all and it has been frozen for about 2 years but now its time to do some spice work with it !

I took 500 ml out of the bottle.
This should be somewhere around 225 grams

Defatting.

I used a magnettic stirrer to mix the naptha with the bark.
All was preheated and was kept warm with the stirrer.
The sep funnel was placed in a large pot with 55 degrees (celsius) water.
After 5 minutes of stirring the solution went in the funnel.
I did 3 defattings. The first with 150 ml naptha the other a bit more then 100 ml.
Seperation was reached within 5 minutes, for the last defatting I let it sit in the funnel 10 minutes in total.
All that needed to be done was taking the funnel out of the pot and dry it a bit before actual seperation

I realy liked the way the proces went.
No clumsy turning of a funnel.
Just stir in the stirrer and into the funnel for a quick seperation.
This also how I want to continue when pulling, a glass beaker for mixing the sep for seperation.

Vovin advises to clean the sep between defats. I was not shure what to use for cleaning so I used some fresh naptha.
But I noticed this would not get the funnel very clean and clear.
What is best used to clean the sep between defats ??
Demineralized water ??

Next step will be basifiying.
Is it ok the use the stirring bean to mix with with lye ??
Will it stay well ? Or should I wait till the reaction has slowed down to add the bean for stirring ?

A question about pulling.

Vovins uses 50 grams in a 500 ml solution.
My solution is about 225 grams in 500 ml.

Should I do more pulls ?
How many Pulls ?
Should I use more naptha in each pull ?
How much naptha should I use for each pull ?

Thanks for reading, NamRa

I added some pictures because if I diddent it did not happen

Congratulations, well done.

There is really no need to defat the acidic solution, when I perform an A/B extraction I get white xtals without defatting/washing the naphta or re-x, by just pulling with naphta and freeze-precipitating.

If you used 225g of MHRB you should pull with 200ml, then 150ml and 100ml, evap down to about 250ml and freeze precipit.

Thanks Vovin, Its all new to me

Thanks for the advice Justine.

Today I continued.
Basefied a solution mixed with the bark extract stirred added a bit more lye.
Ph was a steady 12.3.
Added 200 ml of demineralized water total 600 ml
200 ml naptha added.

Right now I have this layer of emulsion between the naptha and the solution.
I believe I might have overstirred the mixture.

I only took the sep of of its hot water bath to make the picture.

What should I do ?
Its a quite thick layer.

In the first picture the PH was somewhere around 10 I believe it just took a litte lye before it turned black

Most likely I used to little basefied water, its to thick.
Only 200 ml, I am preparing another 200 ml and will add some.

Yesterday fineshed all pulls.
At first, when the thick emulsion layer formed, I was a bit worried, not knowing what to do.
And aslo, the nexus was off line for a while
I ended upp reading some of the faq's and found what I needed to do.
The initial volume of 600 ml basified solution was brought upp to 1600 ml.
All the pulls went fine and the naptha is evaporating slowly

Still, in the beakers with the base I could still see a small layer, a bit fomy and naptha was still in it.
I collected with a seringe and put it back in the sep. I not shure what I am looking at maybe somebody can help.
There is a clear layer of naptha but below is a milky/cloudy layer. what is it ?

Billions of bubbles, This is mostly oils and fat that have water in them and dont mix with naptha but it tends to bubble easily it's a result of the mixing back in the day this used to be a big issue. If you want to pull off of it as it still probably has some dmt. Pull it out sit it in a hot bowl of water (heat bath) and it will help the bubbles separate. You shold get naptha left with a oil based DMT needs lots of cleaning.

Indeed Vovin, really a lot of bubbels !!
I love the magnetic stirrer/heater. For the first pull I mixed for about 30 min. and heated the soup upp to 80c.

I will put in a seprate bowl later.
Right now There is still some reiish solution going to the bottum of the sep.

Tecnical note.

The type of sep funnel I am using has a very good side to it.
The bottum part is really narrow and you can seperate very precise.
Down side of the narrow part is it makes seperation a lot more diffucult when the solution is thick.
it makes it hard for the naptha that at the bottum to come upp through the soup.
The only way I could get everything seperated was by taking seperating much of the base take the flask out rotate it put it back seperate and repeat.

Update.

I skipped the washing step from vovins tek.
A smaller sep I just could not get clean enough.

The total naptha was about 500 ml this was evapotated to 250 ml.
This was putt in the fridge for about 35 hours.
I just took it out to make a picture and put it in the freezer.

Great, already in the fridge realy nice crystal formations where forming.
Now with deep freeze it could be a snow storm.

Results from first freeze.
It is still quite wet and is drying now

Oh mama that's some nice looking DMT!!!

Wow, I am really amazed.

Just looking at these crytals.
They are just so fluffy and delicate, amazing.

There is just a little of color to be seen.
Total weight is 1.261 g minus some shards.

The naptha has been back in the freezer but so far there is nothing to see.
Is it possible I got all out in one go ?

You got the goodies out of that naptha...I always re-heat the solution in a crockpot hotwater bath shaking occasionally and do a couple more pulls...just for my piece of mind...Those extra pulls I stick in the freezer for a few days and usually get a few hundred mg's for my effort...

my gratitude goes out to the dmt nexus.
I am happy to be here.

For may years I have watched this forum.
There is so much to learn here !

Many times I was so confused on all the techniques discribed but I made a choise and focussed.
Most likely the naptha I used is the major factor for this kind of clean result.

I will do a cleaning step and Re X.
Its all about doing and learning, first the learing while making and than then learning from doing/using

From a santo daime fundament I say, Viva DMT !!

I would like to know what kind of naphtha you used.
Maybe you would be so kind as to P.M. me and let me know.

Awsome results BTW! Nice gear too.

The size of that crystal formation is unlike any I've ever seen somebody percipitate!
Did you say that this is your first time doing any extraction?! You must be pulling our chain!lol
If this is true then I'd say you are blessed and the elves smile kindly upon you.

Today the jar with the naptha that was doing it's second freeze was taken out.
the initial 250 ml was reduced to aprox 125 ml and was in the freezer 3 days.
Still there was a little of crystal, not much 0.035 g

I did the solvent wash.
All was desolved in less then 60 ml warm naptha and was left for several minutes.
But there was no oil to be seen anywhere.
I think its possible these oils already got seprated during pulling.
It's in the pictures with the cloudy bubbely stuff in the sep.

Let recrystalize.

YTXian all you need to know about the naptha is in the attached file.

Well, I did a experiment with rue some years ago, with salt and ??
I did a sunflower mescaline atraction a few weeks ago. That went more or less completely wrong.
And this is the first try on spice.

From my point of view getting these kind of formations is all about being calm.
Letting the naptha cool down in a room. Slowly walk to the fridge and after a few days remember to put it in the freezer.
But then I have no comparison if this was really such a beauty of a percipitate.

But from the comments recivied, thanks everybody. seems I pulled it of !