 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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In lew of the common monicure of mama aya among ayahausca enthusthists as a reverential term of enderment towards the spirit of the vine in the holy tea we know so well, I propose and equal monicure for changa.... Madame Cha Cha.... She seems to delight in the title... What an amazing dancer Madame Cha Cha Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 473 Joined: 18-Dec-2010 Last visit: 02-Jan-2021 Location: Beyond the threshold
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I like it.
Seems fitting to have a proper term of endearment for changa as well. Personally I think Mama Cha Cha flows better though.
Either way she does dance well indeed!
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Posts: 230 Joined: 12-Apr-2010 Last visit: 08-May-2019
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i dig it !
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Posts: 345 Joined: 01-Dec-2010 Last visit: 20-Oct-2024
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mama aya always seemed slightly schmaltzy to me. "madame cha cha" I'll have to memorise that one! it does sound slightly humorous to me, which I think is a good thing! :-)
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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She brings a lot of joy... The Madame Mama cha cha rolls off the tounge well. But I like Madame better. Mama in Peruvian as well as Bolivia culture has a specific connotation to the way they relate to plants and spirits. Papa is also used for male spirits, but the concept is based on the idea that each plantas including maize and potato, is a mama, kinda like a mother goddess. Mama patato, mama maize. These are terms of significance to them religiously. People use the term mama aya because they hear it called that but rarely understand why it's called a mama. I prefer to establish my own relationship dynamics. Though a appreciate their cultural view, changa I've felt is in a league of it's own and allows us to create our own unique cultural relationship with these plants. Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 473 Joined: 18-Dec-2010 Last visit: 02-Jan-2021 Location: Beyond the threshold
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Dorge wrote:Though a appreciate their cultural view, changa I've felt is in a league of it's own and allows us to create our own unique cultural relationship with these plants. Very well said. Madame Cha Cha truly is in a league of her own...
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 Chen Cho Dorge
Posts: 1781 Joined: 30-Dec-2008 Last visit: 25-Nov-2012
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Thanks, she is indeed.... Dorge is cooperatively owned and cooperatively run by various hyperspacial entities working as a collabertive sentience project for the betterment of sentient exploration. Offical Changa web sitehttp://changa.esotericpharma.org/
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Posts: 101 Joined: 01-Jan-2011 Last visit: 02-Jan-2017
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Madame Cha Cha... what a magnificent name for this spirit! Even though my experiences with changa are small in number, I definitely enjoyed it, mostly because it created an inner silence in a loving way. This year I plan to smoke changa more often, I'm very interested in its effect on meditation practice.
Dorge, I've studied your site a bit, and found it very informative, well-written and the design concept is truly creative. Many thanks for sharing this info with us, you've worked hard on putting it together.
Peace!
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Posts: 2096 Joined: 20-Nov-2009 Last visit: 12-Nov-2023
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Madame Cha cha sounds very intimate. More so than changa that has been spread very fast in festival unfortunately. It's often used by poeple who don't really know what is it, I mean really like not knowing it contain harmalas. I admit I don't give them name often to spirit, nor use them. But I appreciate greatly your coments on mama vs papa as I heard it often in ceremonies, but I also heard grand'pa peyote and san pedro so it looked like it's a family, not only a veggie family  Smell like tea n,n spirit !
Toke the toke, and walk the walk !
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