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#1 Posted : 12/24/2008 6:43:04 PM

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I smoked some chali alkaloids bout 35 mins ago, and i still feel a very euphoric afterglow, and all warm and tingly..everytime I have smoked mimosa it seems to end mush sooner for me. I thought 5meo was even shorter than N,N...heard chali contains some beta carbolines, and i think its related to banisteriopsis cappi.Can anyone confirm this???
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#2 Posted : 12/24/2008 8:17:09 PM

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It is mostly certainly related to caapi, Diplopterys was originally in the genus Banisteriopsis.

I personally believe different strains of it contains different things... I believe some of those strains contain Caapi-like compounds. I think we know very, very, very little about this mysterious plant!
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#3 Posted : 12/24/2008 10:01:26 PM

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We need to know more than, I love it!! its so wonderful to smoke the alks, I feel like I am about to burst into some cosmic orgasm of light every time!!
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#4 Posted : 12/24/2008 10:02:00 PM

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Yes is does contain a beta carboline. These are the alkaloids it contains:

DMT
DMT-N-Oxide
Bufotenine
5-MeO-DMT
NMT
N-methyl-tetrahydro-beta-carboline (methyltryptoline)

The last is a beta carboline.
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#5 Posted : 12/25/2008 1:53:13 AM

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69 ron, has your SWIM had any experiences with methytryptoline?? if so, how does it differ in effects from other beta carbolines?..is it active when vaporized???
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#6 Posted : 12/25/2008 4:04:39 AM

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I bet various strains of Diplopterys contain all kinds of different things!
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#7 Posted : 12/25/2008 4:07:06 AM

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Sorry, SWIM has no experience at all with isolated methyltryptoline. It looks very interesting. The effect of a smoked Diplopterys alkaloid extract is VERY INTERESTING. Sometimes it's almost slightly salvia like. SWIM has no idea what causes that. Sometimes it's not just DMT and 5-MeO-DMT that you feel from this plant when you smoke it. Methyltryptoline, like other beta-carbolines, is probably active when smoked, and might account for the very unworldly effects Diplopterys sometime causes.

SWIM would love to know how to extract and isolate methyltryptoline from the other alkaloids.
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