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Tona
#1 Posted : 12/6/2011 4:47:40 PM

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Hello, I will keep it short as its very easy, but serious problem. Recently I had very intense aya trip. I was out of my body completely for the whole experience. I was so far away, I didnt even realize that I vomited in my bed. I am wondering if you can choke in your own vomit on aya ? Some may say, that this is when your sitter helps, but come on. We all take psychedelics alone.
 

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#2 Posted : 12/6/2011 4:54:56 PM
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When you´re so far that you puke without realy noticing, there´s indeed a risk of this happening. Inhaling a tiny bit of puke is also very dangerous btw, even if you don´t choke immediately.
This is also the main reason why i would strongly disrecomend anybody to take iboga without a sitter.

When you take a lower dose of harmala´s, you will still be in full controll and the risk is reduced significantly.
 
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#3 Posted : 12/6/2011 4:55:55 PM

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Of course you can choke on your own vomit!
Maybe not eating for a while before Aya may help but if you throw up there's a big chance you may not come back out of the trip.
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#4 Posted : 12/6/2011 5:04:52 PM

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Thank you for your answers! I dont want to put bad vibes to this forum, but please, why there is no mention about this on wiki, aya thread or FAQ ? If its truly possibility, why there are no disclaimers ?!
 
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#5 Posted : 12/6/2011 5:37:44 PM
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Thank you for your answers! I dont want to put bad vibes to this forum, but please, why there is no mention about this on wiki, aya thread or FAQ ? If its truly possibility, why there are no disclaimers ?!

Most people don´t take such large amounts of harmala´s. When you take such amounts of them, you don´t need to add any DMT to have profound psychedelic experiences, because they´re very powerfull by themselves.
With lower amounts of harmala´s, the risk of these kind of things is minimal, because you´re still in full controll.

But maybe it would be a good thing to mention the risk of these things somewhere.
 
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#6 Posted : 12/6/2011 5:43:21 PM

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In like way more than 100 ceremonies I have never puked without knowing I was puking..how much admixture did you use? Sounds like you had too much DMT if you are unaware that you are puking. I mean I puke and I am sort of in hyperspace while puking..my metal puke bowl will be shimmering with fractals and stuff but Im not unaware of what is happening..

I have never heard of people puking without realizing it.
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#7 Posted : 12/6/2011 10:13:05 PM
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Yeah, it does sound rather extreme.
 
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#8 Posted : 12/7/2011 1:29:54 PM

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I thought puking while laying is dangerous in general. Being gone just make it worse. You are both right though, it was definitely an OD. It was more than 15g mimosa + 4g rue (+lotus, calea). (Tried max 5-8g + 3 before). I am glad that it never happened to you jamie, but I think it still should be written somewhere, because there are many people exploring dosages much higher than mine.
 
 
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