Just wondering?

short answer, yes

But IME its hard to get much out of the experience because of the overwhelming drunk/sick feeling. Though I feel very physically well/healed the next day from caapi tea.

For me 60g caapi is a pleasant warm experience but not very psychedelic. At 100g the nausea is overwhelming, just moving my head from side to side was sickeningly painful. The visions however where pretty solid and real and drifting into intense dream states was very easy. Though only after what seemed like hours of painful puking and shitting my guts out!

I'm thinking maybe 80g caapi might be a good dose for me.

Anyway, be careful this stuff is strong medicine!

Yes, and I dont get nausea like that either..I get some but nothing like that..the real nausea and vomiting comes with the admixtures for me. Once you learn how to tune in and navigate with harmalas you can do it with lower doses as well I think.

oh my god yes. yes to the nth. yes beyond our fundamental understanding of the word yes!!

i have some caapi tea that i made a while back from some large-node caapi (the same i drank with the secoya). i used about 500 grams and boiled it three times with a lemon.

it is so strong....dear god....it made me purge profoundly...then gave me visions on a full-blown ayahuasca scale. no dmt ad-mix plants at all! there's a reason indigenous folks refer to it as 'the cave' ....it IS the experience. the dmt ad-mix plants are simply 'the torch' to help shed light on your journey....but the caapi...

oh the caapi....

that is the mother. that is the teacher. that is the truth.

with the deepest love and gratitude!

p.s. do yourself a HUGE favor and fast the day you're going to work with caapi...if you want to REALLY travel far and without misery, do a cleanse of some sort for 3 days or so and then fast on the day. completely removes the potential of pants-pooping and makes the vomiting a "one very intense round and then you feel amazing" kind of scenario. the truth is that you CAN NOT approach this medicine with too much reverence, respect or preparation. you're going into the house of the heavenly realms...no muddy boots allowed!

yea they're very interesting psychedelics on their own. I highly recommend taking a strong dose of either and just laying in the dark.. (or mixing both in careful amounts is nice as well) you'll get used to it after a while and be able to take a lot more. i don't usually get much nausea at all with either when taken this way

Did you drink all 500g? God if I drank 500g of caapi I dont think I would return to this planet...Harmalas are definatily up there with the most benificial of the psychedelics for me. I take caapi on a daily basis in low doses and then lay down to enter into a light trance I call the shamanic dreamtime..then 1-2 days I week I take full doses..up to 100g of caapi, brewed with a bit of mapacho, cats claw and chaliponga..and then I drink about 2-3g of mimosa after I drink the cappi/chaliponga brew..I have been purging alot lately but I enjoy it. I also have the same spirit guides now that come and work with me every time I drink.

I work with a lot of crystals, stones and florida water when I drink caapi also.

I also have been working with harmala seeds. The seeds have a long history of sacred use and the morphic field found within the experience carries alot of information IMO..I feel like the harmala seeds are a link to the ancient lineages of alchemists way back before even the great mystery schools of egypt.

Also, note that harmine and harmaline are NMDA antagonists..so they share that in common with ibogaine...best to lay down in the dark and be still to let the visions come. There is a very special sort of dissociation present with the harmalas that, when one learns how to nagivate can carry you deep into the spirit world.

Wow, that is pretty incredible.

Thanks for all that input.

thanks for the heads up on this....!