My smoking blend is just Rue and Spice. Simple as can be.


I take a bit of syrian rue and grind it up in a pepper mill. I don't want it too be too powdery, so that's my way. I place it into rubbing alchohol first. I'll let that sit a day, then add some spice. If need be the alchohol may be topped off. Then I let it dry till both the product and I are ready.

Personally, it just feels way wrong to ever use a petro chemical with my spice, so oplease do not advice me to use any.

The Rue is added first--my hope is that the Harmalas and spice will both be dissolved and mix, so that when smoked I get 'em both at the same time, rather than spice first followed by the Rue. I have not yet decided if this is in anyway superior to merely smoking rue solo first, waiting and then smoking the spice. Need to experiment more to get to the bottum of that one. Possibly smoking straight rue first and then blazing up the mixture after 20 minutes may be more effective....my supply has been limited so experiments have been likewise.


I don't know if you'd call that changa or something different, but the effects are great. A solid 10-15 minute experience that always seems much much longer. Smoke goes down nice and smooth and the experience is nice and smooth.

When I first read of changa this was the first idea that came to mind--so far it's the only recipe I've tried--thethe effects seem to stack up to what others report, so I've assumed it's good. Now that I've joined this community, I wonder if maybe the other recipes you good people use may in fact have advantages.

Have you ever tried the manske tek on syrian rue to get freebase harmala extract that you can vaporize? This will purify and bypass any harmful combustion that occur from firing up straight seeds.

if you do a manske on the rue, and then use peppermint or some other leaf for the base of the mix that you then infuse with harmalas and spice it will burn/vape alot better/cleaner. It will be easier to take a hit and feel much lighter on the lungs. Rue seeds alone are a heavy smoke I find and would not want to have them as a base for my changa. The manske product is alot nicer.

Cool, I'll look that up now. Thanks you both.

Stupid question--I'd like to blast off tonite. Reading the Crude Menske (salt) tek, it does not say anything about how long to expect the last two steps to take.

Any chance I could have ready to go crystals in 13 hours?

Nope. Manske precipitations (and clean-ups) take days, maybe even a week. the initial precipitation and each of the washes you do will each require an overnight incubation in the fridge. 1 manske and 3 clean-ups will take 4 days. If you want cleaner, purer alkaloids , you can freebase them which adds 1 more day for precipitation and 3 more days for consecutive clean-ups.

https://wiki.dmt-nexus.m...rystals_from_Syrian_Rue



I've read the tek repeatedly.....days? That suprises me.

Thanks.

EDIT Okay, on the forum there exists an updated version of the tek which does mention leaving th product overnight in the fridge.

https://www.dmt-nexus.me....aspx?g=posts&t=764

The proccess seems terribly simple, I appologize for expending any bandwidth over the matter.

Er, then again, the wiki entry ought to be updated as well.

Not unless you have a vaccume filter IMO..it takes me days to a do a proper manske if crystals are what I am after..you want the tea to drop ALL sediments in the fridge before you salt so you dont have to worry about that stuff precipping out making it more dirty..and then still I have to salt it at least 2 times..and then I rextal in a very small small ammount of cold water..but water rextal will take some learning and take up more time so you might as well go a/b clean up from there..

If you are wanting rue for tonight, may i suggest a tea?

I took a coffe mug filled with water and microwaved it for 2 minutes. Then I added 4 grams of ground up rue seeds and covered the mug with a plate to keep more heat in. Let it steep for 20 minutes, then strained. I also used an egg white to remove some of the tannins. Bring the tea to a low boil and add the egg white. You can let it cook in there for a bit and it will keep pulling more bad stuff out. I boiled it for 10 minutes. After removing the egg white it looked like yolk. Cut it open to see how deep the tannins penitrate. Then I let it cool and drank it quickly, as it isn't my favorite drink... 20 minutes later i could tell I was MAOI'd.

It's really simple and quick. I know you are trying to make crystals for changa, but this would work in a pinch.

Thanks.


No microwave for me. I don't own one and never will. If I did I wouldn't put any entheogens anywhere near it (eco-nut 4 lyfe). A tea made on my wood burning stove will, however suit me nicely for tonite. I've been making rue tea for years....this nexus here however, and it's tek-wise contributers have me all of sudden thinking about cleaning up my act just a little.