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vovin
#1 Posted : 10/15/2011 11:02:59 PM

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I look upon the revolt brewing in our streets and the internet. Politicians seek to reign in this attitude towards their means. But neither democrats or republicans can represent the masses. Their archaic concepts no long seem to fit the mold of the modern adult. The explosion of technology and communication has afforded a medium for mass collaboration. Millions now speak with one voice. I ask you my friends is the the begging of a new age.

Surely is is nearing the time for our current social structure not just here in America but all over the world to change in a most drastic manner. The system is broken it cannot be fixed. More and more people see the numbers they see the inevitable end. We cannot sustain this system without pushing the mass of the populace literally into slavery. Governments and corporate structures define our lives. Colleges and universities mass manufactured minds shaped and formed to obey.

The hate is not about policies and rules. It's about who wields the power in our nation. We are brimming on a revolt. More and more people have nothing to loose. More and more are willing to step up. I begin to think this has less to do about government and more about completely reforming society.
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#2 Posted : 10/16/2011 1:40:36 AM

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I feel you V.

Certainly seems like something is in the air lately. Lord knows it has taken a long time to get this far...

People have been deep asleep. But the robot sheeple are somehow starting to wake up.

Did you catch this one: India Sues Monsanto

Monsanto's been stealing indigenous crops and making GMO versions of them for profit, as well as more of their old tricks. Unlike the US and other nations, who aid and abet the criminals in their desecration of our food stocks... India is standing up for its biodiversity and local farmers.
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#3 Posted : 10/16/2011 2:17:24 AM

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I know for a fact that India has never given a rats arse about patents most of the European drugs mailed to the US come directly from India where pharmaceutical companies make generic copies of patented drugs. So go for it there big companies just so you all know that India will just laugh at your patents and take your new plant technology and use it at will.

You know the pirate party has made significant headway into the political market in Europe and with the occupy wall street protesters now hitting europe during it's economic troubles we could just take over.......
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#4 Posted : 10/16/2011 1:30:32 PM

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vovin wrote:
I look upon the revolt brewing in our streets and the internet.
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I begin to think this has less to do about government and more about completely reforming society.


If this editing is fair to your sentiment - we share the same.

What is encouraging is that there is not a typical external reforming agent. The media might try to point to one like 'its all about job, jobs, jobs' or paint it as an 'anti-this or that' movement. But that diagnosis is stuck in the very mindset that is being overturned.

Maybe I'm projecting, but it doesn't seem to be driven out of the typical materialistic mindset. There is a sense that it is society evolving itself. Not for better 'stuff' or conditions for 'me' - but for promoting some internal recognition to let the divine within shine as we interact with one another in society. A recognition that our earthly problems are the doing of our own ignorance and the solution to them all is somehow simple and within each of us waiting to burst out on its own.

"Blinded by their own sight, hearing, feeling, and knowing, they don't perceive the radiance of the source. If they could eliminate all conceptual thinking, this source would appear, like the sun rising through the empty sky and illuminating the whole universe." - Huang Po
 
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#5 Posted : 10/16/2011 10:58:07 PM

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Well I agree completely vovin. Now the key is to do something about this. What action can be taken, and who can take it? Simply being aware of the fact we need a new reform on our social systems is great, now we have to move forward to where we want to be. All of our people have lived in these societies and seen the destruction, suffering, and violence, so what must be done? We must not focus on what can be done to create more jobs, fix the economy and instill a new foundation that will benefit everyone. The internet is a great tool for a widespread idea that we need to focus on. I am so happy to see all this occupy stuff, people rebelling against this way of life we have imprisoned ourselves in.
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#6 Posted : 10/16/2011 11:28:45 PM

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I think at the frenzied rate that this is moving in all probability we will dismantle the current system before we reach a consensus on that but I cannot believe that so many have risen up across the world. This is already a major historic event. The year 2012 is sure to be a interesting one for sure, self fulfilling prophecy or not. The issue here is that there are many flags now unifying under one movement. Some of them powerful organizations themselves. Anonymous, The Pirata who hold seats in European government believe it or not. If Europe explodes tonight as it did last night the system may be torn down in a matter of days. I hear rumor the federal govt is limiting exposure to downplay on television and they are looking to shutting off the internet itself if things escalate too far.

I think it is high time members here speak to the people and help them in this transition. Our journeys here have given us a different perspective on life and I think helping people accept the fact that their whole society is about to completely change how it works is going to be a troublesome time.
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#7 Posted : 10/17/2011 12:17:34 AM

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Yes I am excited to see how this plays out, and hope its not a lost cause or thrown out like a bill trying to be passed by the elitists in control. We need to have the confidence that we can make a change and not just become victims in the situation we were brought up in. Anyway, I am ready to see change. Shutting down the internet, that is insane, but possible, we must not give up on this transition.
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#8 Posted : 10/17/2011 12:34:44 AM

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They can shut down the internet.

Let them try to shut the breathnet.

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Joined by what? Trust in the supreme truth.

Something that propagators of falsehood and imbalance cannot have by nature.

If 99% are divided by 50% then it's a sure thing that 1% are divided by 500%.

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#9 Posted : 10/17/2011 3:56:27 AM

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I was just wondering this myself. Everywhere, people are taking a stand. Anonymous, the different Occupies, even in the small town of 15k I live people are gathering.

Possibly a new enlightenment? We could use one....
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#10 Posted : 10/17/2011 1:03:34 PM

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I don't think that some federal bill is going to fix this the sentiment is not reform it's about dismantling the entire capitalist system. I cannot believe I am hearing common people which such a enlightened view. More and more are saying we literally need to stop and change everything completely.

This thing has grown so fast over the last few days keep in mind occupation wall street is a month old with just a few thousand in a couple cities in 3 days it has expanded to the world with tens of thousands in major cities. This could be the biggest mass uprising in history if it isn't already. Government oppression and assault filtered throughout the internet is only inciting more people to come out.

I just got a feeling this one isn't going to fizzle out. I may be wrong, often am, but I think at this point a large percentage of the protesters see this as their last stand. They have nothing else for the last 2 years in my area I have watched constantly as mid 20's clean cut heard working people loose everything because the jobs available wont even pay half the rent let alone food and utilities.
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#11 Posted : 11/9/2011 4:54:54 PM

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what do you suggest we do vovin? I think we should all gather and create a new society. A self sustaining society that doesnt depend on outside source. Right smack dab in America's backyard. and invite everybody in. Start from the ground up. A society where people can live for free almost. Where we all work together towards a common goal. Wellbeing.
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#12 Posted : 11/9/2011 7:39:17 PM

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If you ask me, shutting down the internet would be one of the worst things they could do. It would more likely provoke people rather than silence them. When the populus sees that their freedom of speech and expression are being violated on such an enormous scale, things will well and truly kick off. But yes, exciting times, lets hope this doesn't end in war, as these sorts of things so often do.
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#13 Posted : 11/10/2011 4:49:49 AM

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I would definitely agree that things are starting to speed up and change at a record rate which has me very excited. I really believe that something is going to have to happen on a grand scale for the human race to find our place out in the universe or else we are essentially screwed, but I am incredibly hopeful for the future of us all and I think even if things end up getting really bad we are all going to come out of this a completely different race of beings than we were before, evolved and ready to travel faster than the speed of light. Call me a dreamer but I believe to the core of my being that this new birth of humanity will be very much tied to the revealing of the ET presence on the planet which has long been the subject of ridicule and denied from the public. In fact the UK, France, Denmark, Germany and a plethora of other countries have begun disclosing there files on UFOs and I would hope to see many others follow despite the White House's science spokesman's latest address that besides the fact that there have been 2 petitions put out with over a million signatures each asking the President to disclose the information on the UFO topic, they are not going to even acknowledge the subject with any seriousness. But this is the USA so the secrecy is not surprising. I don't know about y'all but I think its about time that the human race grew up and dispel the myth that man is the crown of gods creation when in reality the universe is teeming with life and is in a sense alive itself and conscious. But that's just my opinion. Anyway I have a feeling that 2012 is going to be a crazy year the world over and I wish you all a very safe year and hopefully I'll see you all on the other side.
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#14 Posted : 11/13/2011 9:54:14 PM
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Note: Some of you probably are already familiar with most of what Im posting, but there are some newbies to it.

Someone asked what can we do about all this. Here's what yours truly has to advise, take it or leave it, I'm not fixated on them.

1. Make it your intention to co-create your reality. Even if you cannot imagine it, have a hard time believing that it is possible, make it your intention to simply entertain the idea that you can have a hand in the way the world is. I'm not talking about holding that intention for a few hours or days, I'm talking about permanently. It has to be nurtured the same way your physical body needs food. Every day, multiple times a day.

2. Use your entheogenic experiences with the intention to connect to Divinity/Genius/God/The Highest within you. Some people do rituals to facilitate this, including me. There are all kinds of ways to do this, singing, playing an instrument, drawing, tennis, running, chanting, pranayama, yoga, anything rythmic and repetive.

3. Forgive yourself - Forgive yourself. For what you may ask? That's something that cannot be put into words and has to be worked out within each individual. Dig deep within yourself, stand in front of a mirror on a regular basis, and ask yourself to forgive you. "I"m sorry, please forgive me, thank you, I love you".

You may recognize this from the Ho'oponopono and Huna Mind information. Most of the people promoting it are lame scammers who want to make money off it and who don't have a clue about it, but there is enough information available online for free from just reading the articles without having to go beyond that to buy anything.

These traditions, among so many , were aware that all of our troubles externally are a reflection of forces and energies within each of us and all of us collectively that were at odds and fighting within. You are in effect petitioning the Divine within you for forgiveness, and thanking it for forgiving you, since there is absolutely NOTHING you can do to take away the infinite love it has for you and lastly you are thanking it for forgiving you, for loving you, for life itself.

Even if you don't do it exactly as outlined here, the mere intention and act of searching within yourself to correct and improve upon who and what you already are will go a long way to changing things in this world.

4. Lastly, STOP thinking that you're just one person and that it won't matter what you do. Truth is stranger than fiction, and truth is that you ARE magick!! You have so much more power than you ever imagined!! Power to heal yourself, power to heal others, power to be a big part of healing this world, so big you may be the only one to realize it quietly in the privacy of your own home while jamming to the bass guitar, but you know it through and through and there is no need to tell anyone else. It is not something you do, it is something you are. This is not the stage magic nor the charlatan trickery.

Healing of perception is what is needed for everyone on this globe, all 7 billion of us and beyond. Now how do we start a blazing wildfire of healing of our perception??

How do we raise the roof of our minds? How do we stretch our perceptions?

This isn't coming in the way any of us ever imagined. It's gonna be fire and brim stone, huge somethings falling out of the sky, UFO landing, Quetzacoatl returning, etc while at the same time just another day of working and paying the bills, with absolutely no change from one day to the next, while at the same time something totally beyond comprehension.

For some it will pure hell, Armageddon
For others it will be a saving and redemption, a return to all that is good.

Imagine a train track that splits into different tracks and directions. You may see chaos all around you, but you can be at total peace, knowing exactly what is happening, why, and where you're headed.

In every moment there is now more and more event happening. In every moment there are more and more possibilities, opportunities and choices you can make. In even moment there are more and more doors opening.

The most important place to start is with our perception, which is everything.

Feel free to discard, add to, subtract and modify to these ideas. Smile Thanks for reading.

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