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PrimalWisdom
#1 Posted : 11/1/2011 3:20:46 PM

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So the other night I was feeling restless and decided to brew up some Caapi leaf tea. I took 8 grams of the leaf, and 2 heaped tablespoons of passion flower threw them in a pot with some cardamom pods, cinnamon, rose petals, jasmine flowers, and some orange rind to make a delicious tea.
I drank 2 cups and went to lie down in bed while watching a movie. The sedative effects of the passion flower were the first to hit me, and I closed my eyes ready to head off to dreamland. I could then feel the Caapi lifting my mood, and generally putting a fat smile on my face.

I noticed that my closed eye vision was a lot more active – I usually get a bit of patterning/cloudy shapes after a joint, and I had smoked one a few hrs before bed, but this night I had a full on starscape behind my eyelids. The only thing I can liken it to is Google sky, I could move my head from side to side and my view of the stars changed. There was what looked like a milky way and everything. I thought this to be quite novel and messed around with it for a while, zooming into star systems etc… It wasn’t as vivid as say DMT visions, but I was amazed at how detailed I could stars to look.

After a while the pull of sleep was too strong and I drifted off. Before I go any further I’d like to point out that I practiced toltic/lucid dreaming for about a year when I was 17/18. My dreams since then have always been quite vivid but I never quite cracked the whole lucid thing and it’s kinda faded in the last 10 or so years.

What follows is a description/synopsis of one of the weirdest, coolest, most vivid dreams I have ever had:
I arrive for a dinner party at a large estate, I drive up a long winding driveway and park my car, which is awesome by the way, a sleek black sports car. I can smell the petrol, and feel the heat coming off the bonnet. I look at my watch (a habit from lucid dreaming techniques) the time has just gone 12 noon. I walk up to the front door and ring the doorbell, I glance at my watch again - 4pm (This used to be my way of checking if I was dreaming, I now realise that I am clearly in a dream) The door creaks open and Shasha Shulgin is standing there in what I can only describe as a Hugh Heffner dressing gown. I go inside and see my entire family is already seated around a large dining table. My sister is helping dish up soup, and I offer to cut the bread.

Lunch seems to be over, I don’t recall eating anything but we are now sitting in a type of den, my family have gone home, and Sasha and I sit down. He pulls out a plate/tile there is a bit of powder on it, and a razor blade. Sasha asks if I want some 2c-e, I’m game and he puts some on the end of the razor blade and hands it to me. I suck the end of it and recoil at the bitterness. We sit for a while and then the doorbell rings. I’m at the door almost instantly, I open it and Albert Einstein nods hello and walks in. At this point I’m gleaming from ear to ear with the effects of the 2c-e. I have full blown rainbow vision, and everything looks like water lapping over pebbles. We proceed to the den, which is now a garage and the 3 of us climb into a vintage green car. Sasha drives us down some of the most beautiful roads I have ever seen, tree-lined country roads; I can smell the grass and the essence of autumn in the air. As we come over a hill the view explodes into a patchwork of orange, red, yellow and brown. The trees are amazingly detailed. The sunlight plays on them and I can’t help but think that this must be the greatest thing I have ever experienced.

We arrive at a cricket oval. It looks typically British and its summer now. We watch a game of cricket. A lot of the time I just walk around the grounds (even in the middle of play) and am blow away at the vividness of my hallucinations in the dream. I feel orgasmic and my tactile senses are overloading with stimuli. The sky looks so intricate, like someone had painted a Persian rug design over it. I head back to Sasha and Albert who are at the car again and we head off to the docks to go watch boats mooring.
I spent the rest of the dream at what looked like a dock in Manhattan on a cold winter’s afternoon in the 1940’s. The sun was getting ready to set and we watched as massive cruise liners came into dock, the sound of the horns was so loud in my ears that they rang, and made my head tingle. I could feel steam rising out of ducts on the pier, and smell the ocean. We finally watched the sun set and I awoke to the smell of coffee brewing.

I’ve taken drugs in dreams before, but their effects were never really felt. They lacked any sort of depth, and I’d only ever have a brief moment or 2 of actually feeling like I had ingested anything. In this dream I felt like I had a full-blown psychedelic experience. The visuals were simply breathtaking, and my body felt amazing for most of it. I think I roamed around the dream with a huge smile on my face as well, I just felt so happy.

I can’t help but wonder if the Caapi had anything to do with this dream.


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#2 Posted : 11/1/2011 3:33:20 PM

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This sounds awesome, I had wondered about caapi leaf tea as I have a ton of leaves that I won't get through by smoalking alone. I will try a tea tonight, Jasmine and Blue Lotus will go in as well I think. Can't wait now! xD
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#3 Posted : 11/1/2011 7:25:33 PM

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I am also interested in just brewing some caapi, Just like you ^ i got some extra caapi leaves sitting around, i am curious what is a caapi experience alone?

Have others just taken caapi by itself or would it be suggested to add one other thing such as jasmine?
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#4 Posted : 11/1/2011 7:33:09 PM

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caapi alone can be a very very powerful experience. Often ayahuasca in the amazon will contain only caapi and no DMT/tropane admixtures..if anyone think caapi is a mild trip at best..just go drink 150g or so..
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#5 Posted : 11/2/2011 12:37:33 AM

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Caapi, rue, psychadelics, pretty much anything serotonegenic has some affect on dreams imho, mabey with the exception of mdxx drugs witch technically seretonogenic. I just can't imagine sleeping on amphetamine/cathinone empathogen analogs Laughing . I've noticed altered sleep states from melatonin, 5-htp, dmt, mescaline, caapi, rue, 2c's, various herbs, aya, etc. I think it has something to do with endogenous beta-carbolines such as pinoline/tryptoline and endogenous indoles such as 5-ht, melatonin, etc. Caapi, however seems to work especially well at this, mabey due to lots of people describing a "dreamy" state they are put in to. Perhaps endrogenous neurotransmitters in the brain during sleep are being potentiated/changed somehow due to more/different beta carbolines.

Theres lots to explore regarding dreams and brain biochemistry, its really fascinating to me, altering an already altered state of consciousness.

And BTW, if didn't already know, benzos and cannabis can really fuck up your dream states, especially with daily use. Another good reason not to smoke or vape daily is it fucks with your serotonin system, i think this has alot to do with people "growing out" of heavy cannabis use. Chronic use somehow changes how those receptors work, and how 5-htp affects a cannabis high is just more proof of this imho. CBD is proven to affect serotonin receptors, thc i'm not too sure about though.

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#6 Posted : 12/12/2011 3:55:36 AM

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Wow PrimalWisdom that was an exceptional dream/trip report - beautifully written, I felt like I was there myself. I've had no experiences with harmalas, this may just be the motivation I need to pursue this. The tea sounds delicious Very happy
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